I do not dispute Scripture - what I do dispute is the many claimed inspired way out, weird and wacky interpretations attributed to the HS as the cause or fruits of division, confusion, divergence, disunity, contradictions etc - a slipshod careless reading of scriptures, as also my post is the problem so I repeat what I have stated and in this case that at Jn.3 it does not say that Jesus said a Christian or Christians must be born again {as Christians} - twinc
The reason I posted those scriptures was by the way you said that "Christians must be born again". I was confused by your wording, but now see by your explanation here you meant that no one is a Christian unless they are born again. Is this right as if so I agree with that and all you said here.
The reason I posted those scriptures was by the way you said that "Christians must be born again". I was confused by your wording, but now see by your explanation here you meant that no one is a Christian unless they are born again. Is this right as if so I agree with that and all you said here.
here again we have the problem where we are not addressed but it is accepted that we are for "ye must be born again" does not truly truly apply to Christians born of water and the spirit - twinc
here again we have the problem where we are not addressed but it is accepted that we are for "ye must be born again" does not truly truly apply to Christians born of water and the spirit - twinc
when one talks in riddles how is another going to understand what they are talking about. How do you explain John 3:3-6 and Romans 8:6-9? How can one call them self a Christian if they are not Spiritually born again and indwelled with the Holy Spirit?
when one talks in riddles how is another going to understand what they are talking about. How do you explain John 3:3-6 and Romans 8:6-9? How can one call them self a Christian if they are not Spiritually born again and indwelled with the Holy Spirit?
I asked you to elaborate on what you said in post # 24, but all you came back with in post #26 was, "it is self explanatory but understandably alien to those supposedly born again". I have no clue what you are talking about!!!
I have no idea what you are talking about so it's time to leave this thread as you can not seem to give clear answers to my questions. I will leave with this. If it's not in the Bible I am not going to believe it.
I have no idea what you are talking about so it's time to leave this thread as you can not seem to give clear answers to my questions. I will leave with this. If it's not in the Bible I am not going to believe it.
Jesus does not agree: Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
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