It isn't Islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you!

[turnorburn]

justpassingby said

The term "hate" is overused and abused. Few folks really hate and the use of the term should be kept to a minimum if ever used at all. The term should not even be a part of one's vocabulary.

I'm thinking we all hate, and with the devil looking for openings at all times he'll fan the flames of hatred every chance he gets even turning it into something demonic. Those poor Muslims have been deceived into thinking their god is the God of the bible, they may not show it but after watching their comrades committing these atrocities they must be scared stiff, scared of what they may be called to do..



tob

 

[turnorburn]

I have to apologize for not completing this post, had some yard work to do..When i said we all hate it was to say we all cry we all laugh we do all of the things our creator does and that because we were made in his image. After the fall all of our attributes were corrupted that is to say we inherited an evil nature quite unlike that of our creator. That's not to say we are equal to God far from it, Satan is the one that's trying to lay claim to that one. The love of God has changed us we are restored in Christ we are hidden in Christ we are all things in Christ by the grace of God. Muslims can't say the same, because their god isn't the God of the bible.. that hatred is fueled by the evil one.

tob

 

[By Grace]

I have to apologize for not completing this post, had some yard work to do

WOW! You must have a VERY big yard!
:biglol

 

[tessiewebb]

Got a graveyard chuckle out of this quote: "(Douglas) Murray's new e-book "Islamophilia" is all about the Left's fear of criticizing Islam, which, if they are honest (a few are) will tell you it's because they are afraid of getting their throat cut." http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/...icism-of-religion-stops-at-the-door-of-islam/

Here's a url for a video featuring Mr. Murray on the left and Islam from Sept 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjelVwbu6vM

 

[tessiewebb]

Nice going for the home team! Shows that group action CAN BE effective!:

Hershey pulls advertising from Al Jazeera America aka CurrentTV.

Hershey has pulled their advertising from Al Jazeera America aka CurrentTV. Florida Family Association’s monitoring records found NO Hershey advertisements on the channel this week. Additionally, Hershey confirmed the change in their email below dated June 10, 2013. This is how the Hershey advertising situation played out:

Florida Family Association sent out email alerts starting on April 22, 2013 announcing that Hershey was the top advertiser on Al Jazeera America aka CurrentTV. The Hershey Company responded with an email stating that they intended to continue to advertise because they (erroneously) purported that Al Jazeera did not own CurrentTV yet. Florida Family Association sent letters to all of the Board of Directors for The Hershey Company, Hershey Trust and Hershey Park on May 24, 2013 which informed them that a press release would be issued on Tuesday, June 11, 2013 announcing plans to fly a banner stating HERSHEY SPONSORS JIHADTV around Hershey Park and Jersey Shore. The Hershey Company sent an email on Tuesday, June 10, 2013 at 6:00 pm to inform Florida Family Association that they were not going to advertise on CurrentTV aka Al Jazeera America. That Hershey email is posted below:

----- Original Message -----
From: consumerinfo@HersheysConsumerRelations.com
To: ffa@floridafamily.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: A Message From The Hershey Company RE Reference Number: 008716943C

Dear David,

As a follow-up to our previous correspondence, we are writing to inform you that The Hershey Company no longer advertises on CurrentTV and will not going forward. As we shared earlier, our CurrentTV advertising was scheduled to sunset in accordance with our advertising policies.

Regards,

Natalye Smythe
Consumer Relations 008716943C

From email from Florida Family Association <ffa@floridafamily.org>

 

[tessiewebb]

UK high school students waiting for bus attacked by Muslim gang members

Vlad Tepes A comment under the video from a friend of the kids who were attacked says: “Directly behind where this was filmed is a mosque. It’s a rough area and a lot of anti-white racist attacks go on there all the time. The white girl is screaming in terror – even saying “excuse me†to get the attention of the person who has just punched her friend – and the boys, instead of retaliating when they get a cricket bat swung at them, try and hold the Muslims back instead of punching them, before getting scissor kicked against a bus stop.â€


http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/06/11/uk-high-school-students-waiting-for-bus-attacked-by-muslim-gang-members/


BNI says this video has been banned on YouTube, could not locate there. Also says UK media are not publicizing the attack. Neither the Guardian nor the Telegraph has anything on it. Only source I could locate today was BNI, which I have found to be factual and accurate.

 

[By Grace]

This is an article about the "good guys" we will most likely gives arms to because the "bad guy" President Assad used sarin gas on his people, which has been officially verified

Syrian rebels executed a 14-year-old boy for insulting Islam

For full article go HERE


Here are three paragraphs...


When a 14-year-old boy from the Syrian city of Aleppo named Mohammad Qatta was asked to bring one of his customers some coffee, he reportedly refused, saying, “Even if [Prophet] Mohammed comes back to life, I won’t.â€


According to a story reported by two grassroots Syrian opposition groups, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and the Aleppo Media Center, Qatta’s words got him killed. A group of Islamist rebels, driving by in a black car, reportedly heard the exchange. They stopped the car, grabbed the boy and took him away.


Qatta, in refusing to serve a customer coffee – it’s not clear why – had used a phrase that the Islamist rebels took as an insult toward the Prophet Mohammed, the most important figure in Islam. That offhand comment, made by a boy, was apparently enough for these rebels to warrant a grisly execution and public warning.

 

[tessiewebb]

This is an article about the "good guys" we will most likely gives arms to because the "bad guy" President Assad used sarin gas on his people, which has been officially verified

Syrian rebels executed a 14-year-old boy for insulting Islam

For full article go HERE


Here are three paragraphs...


When a 14-year-old boy from the Syrian city of Aleppo named Mohammad Qatta was asked to bring one of his customers some coffee, he reportedly refused, saying, “Even if [Prophet] Mohammed comes back to life, I won’t.â€


According to a story reported by two grassroots Syrian opposition groups, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and the Aleppo Media Center, Qatta’s words got him killed. A group of Islamist rebels, driving by in a black car, reportedly heard the exchange. They stopped the car, grabbed the boy and took him away.


Qatta, in refusing to serve a customer coffee – it’s not clear why – had used a phrase that the Islamist rebels took as an insult toward the Prophet Mohammed, the most important figure in Islam. That offhand comment, made by a boy, was apparently enough for these rebels to warrant a grisly execution and public warning.

Should serve as a wake up call for those determined to see Islam as a 'PEACEFUL RELIGION" but probably not. After all "it was an isolated incident, done by 'radical' Islamists", they will probably say or at least think. Unless it hits THEM personally, I guess they will remain "neutral". It's a pity!

 

[turnorburn]

Opening my email this morning was twofold, Islam creeping in as our new national religion then right along side we see one of the reasons for it. America has made a very foolish and blasphemous mistake we've replaced God's Son with Idolatry.. As you scroll down the page to the right you'll get a birds eye view of the headliners..

tob

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-One-Nation-Under-Allah.html#ixzz2WCAjCaf7

 

[tessiewebb]

Opening my email this morning was twofold, Islam creeping in as our new national religion then right along side we see one of the reasons for it. America has made a very foolish and blasphemous mistake we've replaced God's Son with Idolatry.. As you scroll down the page to the right you'll get a birds eye view of the headliners.. tob

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-One-Nation-Under-Allah.html#ixzz2WCAjCaf7

First, thank you for the link. Then let me say I fully agree with you that we've made a huge mistake in replacing His Son ( and God) with whatever is "clever" this year. Want to make sure that those who don't go to the link see this and note that only in passing does the article mention the fact that the satanic name of "allah" has replaced the Name above all Names, our Father God. No, it's slanted as if it is mostly all about the pledge being recited in Arabic, as if that is the main reason for the dissension over the issue! Talk about the blind leading the blind!

"Fury is brewing at Rocky Mountain High School, in Colorado, after a multicultural student group were encouraged to recite the Pledge of Allegiance over the loudspeaker in Arabic - replacing 'one nation under God' with 'one nation under Allah'.

Following Monday's pledge, Principal Tom Lopez has been inundated with complaints from outraged parents concerned that saying the Pledge in any language other than English is unpatriotic. Standing by his controversial decision, Principal Lopez has said that despite the irate telephone calls and emails, he is not in any way or form trying to push an Islamic agenda at the Fort Collins school....How on earth is it un-American to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in another language,' said Hooper to Fox News. 'It doesn’t make sense unless the people complaining are anti-Muslim or anti-middle eastern bigots.' Indeed, the embattled head is becoming wary at the number of complaints and level of abuse he has received. 'I’ve been shocked with prejudicial statements that have been made,' said Lopez. 'I’ve been shocked with the lack of seeking understanding. There’s definitely suspicion and fear expressed in these people’s minds. There’s some hate.' Lopez says the school is a place of inclusion where one message can be communicated in many different ways. 'When they pledge allegiance to United States, that's exactly what they're saying,' Lopez said. 'They're just using another language as their vehicle,' he said.....The issue for some parents and pupils at the school is that in an Arabic translation of the Pledge of Allegiance, 'one nation under God' is replaced with 'one nation under Allah'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-One-Nation-Under-Allah.html#ixzz2WNvpwzr0 ​

Read more:

• School Recites Pledge in Arabic, One Nation Under Allah?
• Fort Collins high school club takes up Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/index.html?bctid=2479980714001http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/index.html?bctid=2479980714001

 

[tessiewebb]

NEW YORK (AP) — The New York Police Department's widespread spying programs directed at Muslims have undermined free worship by innocent people and should be declared unconstitutional, religious leaders and civil rights advocates said Tuesday after the filing of a federal lawsuit.

"Our mosque should be an open, religious and spiritual sanctuary, but NYPD spying has turned it into a place of suspicion and censorship," Hamid Hassan Raza, an imam named as a plaintiff, told a rally outside police headquarters shortly after the suit was filed in federal court in Brooklyn.

The city's legal department responded with a statement calling the intelligence-gathering an appropriate and legal tactic that helps keep the city safe from terrorism....http://news.yahoo.com/civil-rights-groups-sue-nypd-over-muslim-spying-151957775.html

I say emphatically YES to the city's legal departments statement. . Because the imams preach jihad in mosques, the "intelligence-gathering" is a VERY "appropriate and legal tactic"! Muslims have learned well how to work the system to draw attention to their whiny efforts to justify themselves in the eyes of those who their "holy book' calls infidels. The Quran instructs that those who do not believe in Islam are to be killed. Why WOULDN'T it be appropriate to keep an eye on those who follow this teaching? As the old saying goes, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". Very wise advice.

 

[jasoncran]

idk, some could also say that bout us. given with recent lying about the nsa we need to make sure that no one rights are violated. if we don't "they" have won now as America is now a tyranny.

 

[tessiewebb]

idk, some could also say that bout us. given with recent lying about the nsa we need to make sure that no one rights are violated. if we don't "they" have won now as America is now a tyranny.

Well, jasoncran, you said you don't know about this issue...so let me ask you, whose rights are being violated? If your neighbor is known to be apt to be violent, deceitful, scheming to take over your house, kill your family, rule over you and demand that you convert to their 'religion', what would you want the police to do about it? Personally, I would want all the help I could get to be sure their "agenda" isn't completed.

Who is the "us" you mentioned? Should a desire by those who do not intend malicious activity NOT to be spied upon be compared to surveillance of possible scheming groups so as to stop all surveillance by police? The lackadaisical follow through on the Boston bombers shows that surveillance isn't always effective, but there have been reports of terrorist plots curtailed by surveillance. I'm sure, as (ex-?)military, you are aware of that.

 

[jasoncran]

idk, some could also say that bout us. given with recent lying about the nsa we need to make sure that no one rights are violated. if we don't "they" have won now as America is now a tyranny.

Well, jasoncran, you said you don't know about this issue...so let me ask you, whose rights are being violated? If your neighbor is known to be apt to be violent, deceitful, scheming to take over your house, kill your family, rule over you and demand that you convert to their 'religion', what would you want the police to do about it? Personally, I would want all the help I could get to be sure their "agenda" isn't completed.

Who is the "us" you mentioned? Should a desire by those who do not intend malicious activity NOT to be spied upon be compared to surveillance of possible scheming groups so as to stop all surveillance by police? The lackadaisical follow through on the Boston bombers shows that surveillance isn't always effective, but there have been reports of terrorist plots curtailed by surveillance. I'm sure, as (ex-?)military, you are aware of that.

what makes you think that government wont arrest a jew, a Christian who is pro constitutional rights? hmm what makes you think that the government who let two americans die under operation fast and fury will care about your rights? what about when they let the men die in Benghazi and lied about the whole reason that went down and arrested a man for a video that never existed? hmm?

I am still in but the day may come where I may have to leave the service. its looking closer each day.

 

[tessiewebb]

idk, some could also say that bout us. given with recent lying about the nsa we need to make sure that no one rights are violated. if we don't "they" have won now as America is now a tyranny.

Well, jasoncran, you said you don't know about this issue...so let me ask you, whose rights are being violated? If your neighbor is known to be apt to be violent, deceitful, scheming to take over your house, kill your family, rule over you and demand that you convert to their 'religion', what would you want the police to do about it? Personally, I would want all the help I could get to be sure their "agenda" isn't completed.

Who is the "us" you mentioned? Should a desire by those who do not intend malicious activity NOT to be spied upon be compared to surveillance of possible scheming groups so as to stop all surveillance by police? The lackadaisical follow through on the Boston bombers shows that surveillance isn't always effective, but there have been reports of terrorist plots curtailed by surveillance. I'm sure, as (ex-?)military, you are aware of that.

what makes you think that government wont arrest a jew, a Christian who is pro constitutional rights? hmm what makes you think that the government who let two americans die under operation fast and fury will care about your rights? what about when they let the men die in Benghazi and lied about the whole reason that went down and arrested a man for a video that never existed? hmm?

I am still in but the day may come where I may have to leave the service. its looking closer each day.

Christians who disagree with the government's policies are already under surveillance and grouped together with wild men survivalists who include Christian in the name of their organizations. Thought you knew. As for those who died under "fast and fury", Benghazi, and the arrest for the "video" we have our current government to thank for all 3. Churches with less than 500 in attendance are subject to shut down, as well. We must vocally disagree with these things as well. That still doesn't mean surveillance of hate groups should not be done by those sworn to "serve and protect", just that we need to object in any way possible to the misuse of surveillance and unfair tactics against those who as you say are "pro-constitutional rights". Just because some abuse their powers doesn't mean the powers themselves are inherently wrong.

 

[tessiewebb]

Oh well. Some teachers here have now called in the union because they are offended having to say a daily prayer in our native language to there students. They deliver the prayer, which asks for the day to be blessed, and to help with work, and to have a good week.

And also at the start of each school day a prayer rings out in every classroom. Translated it means, "Lord look after us, guide us with your work today, in your holy name."

The teachers are complaining. I think its because of multiculture and the freedom of personal belief reasons.

Don't know where you are but it sure isn't America since such prayers by teachers are prohibited in any language.

 

[jasoncran]

im sorry, if the government can just without warrant just spy on any faith or group that has violent tendency then why wouldn't you mind if we just subject all black men and women as that group has the highest rate of incarcation? makes sense to me with you thinking.

 

[tessiewebb]

im sorry, if the government can just without warrant just spy on any faith or group that has violent tendency then why wouldn't you mind if we just subject all black men and women as that group has the highest rate of incarcation? makes sense to me with you thinking.

Yeah, and why don't you, being military, just go shoot anyone who has a gun, since they might shoot you? Really, jasoncran, you are simplifying things WAY too much.

It is not a matter of "faith" or "group" but a fact that many proselytes come out of so called "places of worship" ie, mosques. And that Muslims use a great deal of deceit and political maneuvering to assure their agenda continues unabated. When an enemy is cunning enough to turn a country's laws into oatmeal and have them for breakfast, violent enough to attack on American (or other countries) soil, demanding THEIR laws become the law of whatever country they are currently flooding, threatening takeovers from mosques, behind suicide bombers in Israel and other countries, and spreading hate and discontent with their rhetoric abroad and in America, when their "holy book" proclaims 'forever jihad', can you not see that all that marks Islam as a threat to everyone who is NOT Muslim? And oh yeah, btw, blacks in prison are turning to Islam in record numbers too.

 

[By Grace]

im sorry, if the government can just without warrant just spy on any faith or group that has violent tendency then why wouldn't you mind if we just subject all black men and women as that group has the highest rate of incarcation? makes sense to me with you thinking.

You seem to be forgetting some important facts in this derail. (Tessie went along, so I am not complaining.)

First is that during the Irnq war, the favorite places to hide munitions was in mosques. that is because the Allies would not bomb the mosques out of "respect for the religion" or to be "politically correct.

Second is the fact that most of the riots we hear about in the Arab lands come on Friday. It is not just a coincidence. The simple reason for that is because the Muslims go to mosque on Friday, and the imams stir up the masses into such hatred, they go out and attack whatever the imams stirred them up to do.

So it comes down to this, if in the United States, the Mennonites, Methodists or even Mormons stirred up their congregants in the way that the imams of Islam do continually, would there not be a great outcry against those groups? Of course, and there would be blood in the streets, and fire on those church buildings.. Therefore I ask, then what is wrong in your viewpoint with calling a spade a spade when it comes to the Muslims?

 

[tessiewebb]

im sorry, if the government can just without warrant just spy on any faith or group that has violent tendency then why wouldn't you mind if we just subject all black men and women as that group has the highest rate of incarcation? makes sense to me with you thinking.

You seem to be forgetting some important facts in this derail. (Tessie went along, so I am not complaining.)

First is that during the Irnq war, the favorite places to hide munitions was in mosques. that is because the Allies would not bomb the mosques out of "respect for the religion" or to be "politically correct.

Second is the fact that most of the riots we hear about in the Arab lands come on Friday. It is not just a coincidence. The simple reason for that is because the Muslims go to mosque on Friday, and the imams stir up the masses into such hatred, they go out and attack whatever the imams stirred them up to do.

So it comes down to this, if in the United States, the Mennonites, Methodists or even Mormons stirred up their congregants in the way that the imams of Islam do continually, would there not be a great outcry against those groups? Of course, and there would be blood in the streets, and fire on those church buildings.. Therefore I ask, then what is wrong in your viewpoint with calling a spade a spade when it comes to the Muslims?

Very well put, ByGrace, and sound reasoning will prevail, I hope and pray. It is side issues like "well, they might..." or "but they are 'in the main' peaceful, law abiding citizens' thinking that makes it all shaky whether we will actually protect citizens in America who do not want Islam rule and terrorism or if the dhimmis and politically correct will prevail. Thanks for your input!