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bibleberean said:
You will not know God and His Kingdom unless you honour His sons and obey His commandments.
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You will not know God and His Kingdom unless you honour His sons and obey His commandments.
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bibleberean
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Lonelyguide said:bibleberean said:I only care what God thinks...
You will not know God and His Kingdom unless you honour His sons and obey His commandments.
Empty words...
Not every one is God's son as I demonstrated from the scriptures.
And in the future do not quote me out of context...
This is what I said...
I know what Jesus taught and really don't care what you think :smt102
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Lonelyguide
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Lonelyguide said:bibleberean said:I only care what God thinks...
You will not know God and His Kingdom unless you honour His sons and obey His commandments.
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Lonelyguide
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bibleberean said:Lonelyguide said:bibleberean said:I only care what God thinks...
You will not know God and His Kingdom unless you honour His sons and obey His commandments.
Empty words...
We'll see ... won't we ...
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bibleberean
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Lonelyguide,
Check your messages.
Thanks,
Robert
Check your messages.
Thanks,
Robert
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bibleberean
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"In the Mayahanna tradtion of Buddhism, there is such a thing as a Bodhisattva. That is, a person who has liberated themselves from the cycle of suffering and has come to the realization of deep spiritual insight."
The bible teaches that all men are slaves to sin and need a saviour.
No one can on their own liberate themselves from the wages of sin.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Only by believing in the finished work of Christ on the cross can a person be born again...
John 3:14-15 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Death is the wages of sin.
This is what the bible and Christ taught.
Jesus was clearly not a proponent of this Buddhist teaching.
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AHIMSA
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I am not saying that there are not differences between Buddhism and Christianity. However, there are some very key similarities:
Both Buddhism and Christianity teach that we have enslaved ourselves through our own desires. Out of desire, Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit and began their bondage.
Jesus taught that we must carefully observe our thoughts, and control our own inclinations, for from our thoughts spring our actions. "Anyone who looks at a woman with lust has committed adultery"
Buddha taught that: What we are is a result of our thoughts, through which we form the world
The message from Christ and Buddha: Purify your mind, and goodness will flow from you.
Both Buddhism and Christianity teach that we have enslaved ourselves through our own desires. Out of desire, Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit and began their bondage.
Jesus taught that we must carefully observe our thoughts, and control our own inclinations, for from our thoughts spring our actions. "Anyone who looks at a woman with lust has committed adultery"
Buddha taught that: What we are is a result of our thoughts, through which we form the world
The message from Christ and Buddha: Purify your mind, and goodness will flow from you.
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Solo
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AHIMSA said:I am not saying that there are not differences between Buddhism and Christianity. However, there are some very key similarities:
Both Buddhism and Christianity teach that we have enslaved ourselves through our own desires. Out of desire, Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit and began their bondage.
Jesus taught that we must carefully observe our thoughts, and control our own inclinations, for from our thoughts spring our actions. "Anyone who looks at a woman with lust has committed adultery"
Buddha taught that: What we are is a result of our thoughts, through which we form the world
The message from Christ and Buddha: Purify your mind, and goodness will flow from you.
How does Jesus say to Purify your mind?
How does Buddha say to Purify your mind?
Please give references to each.
Thanks
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AHIMSA
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Both taught, through different ways, that our actions sprung forth from our thoughts. Thus it isn't enough to refrain from immoral action, but that we should also refrain from immoral thought. This is obvious in Christ's teachings on Mount, for he emphasizes the state of our heart and that we should not clutter it with pride, lust or anger.
As for the Buddha, I can't outwardly quote another religious figure unless I am being derrogatory. To quote another religious figure in a positive light is, apparently, a violation of the TOS for "Promoting Another Religion". But I asure you, Buddha did teach this.
As for the Buddha, I can't outwardly quote another religious figure unless I am being derrogatory. To quote another religious figure in a positive light is, apparently, a violation of the TOS for "Promoting Another Religion". But I asure you, Buddha did teach this.
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Solo
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AHIMSA said:Both taught, through different ways, that our actions sprung forth from our thoughts. Thus it isn't enough to refrain from immoral action, but that we should also refrain from immoral thought. This is obvious in Christ's teachings on Mount, for he emphasizes the state of our heart and that we should not clutter it with pride, lust or anger.
As for the Buddha, I can't outwardly quote another religious figure unless I am being derrogatory. To quote another religious figure in a positive light is, apparently, a violation of the TOS for "Promoting Another Religion". But I asure you, Buddha did teach this.
If you admit with this post that Jesus was correct in his teachings, and that Buddha is correct in his teachings, then when the two contradict each other who is correct?
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itoldyounoalready
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You have a good point and juxtaposition going but you have to know all the definite principles and beliefs in Christianity in order to make this a true juxtaposition,In Christianity Jesus is indeed alive in physical form he has ascended into heaven, just be sure to know the beliefs before posting so as to avoid conflicts.
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Lonelyguide
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Solo said:If you admit with this post that Jesus was correct in his teachings, and that Buddha is correct in his teachings, then when the two contradict each other who is correct?
Hi Solo,
Sri Yukteswar's "Holy Science" mentions all the areas where Christ's and Buddha's teachings converge. I already mentioned this in an earlier post. I can tell you that the number of these areas is astounding.
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Solo
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Do you believe that Jesus and Buddha are equals? If so, in what way? If not, why not?Lonelyguide said:Solo said:If you admit with this post that Jesus was correct in his teachings, and that Buddha is correct in his teachings, then when the two contradict each other who is correct?
Hi Solo,
Sri Yukteswar's "Holy Science" mentions all the areas where Christ's and Buddha's teachings converge. I already mentioned this in an earlier post. I can tell you that the number of these areas is astounding.
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Lonelyguide
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Hi Solo,
For me ... we are All sons of God and I therefore view every encounter with a brother ... also this one with you ... as a holy encounter.
Again for me ... Jesus is our older brother; a brother, however, who is higher in the process of "rising up" and who consequently bridges the distance between us and God. The fact that I also regard Him as my Teacher does not prevent me from appreciating some of the teachings of Buddha. Within this context, however, it must be seen that contemporary Buddhism differs in many ways from the teachings of Buddha, just like contemporary Christianity differs in many ways from the teachings of Christ.
For me ... we are All sons of God and I therefore view every encounter with a brother ... also this one with you ... as a holy encounter.
Again for me ... Jesus is our older brother; a brother, however, who is higher in the process of "rising up" and who consequently bridges the distance between us and God. The fact that I also regard Him as my Teacher does not prevent me from appreciating some of the teachings of Buddha. Within this context, however, it must be seen that contemporary Buddhism differs in many ways from the teachings of Buddha, just like contemporary Christianity differs in many ways from the teachings of Christ.
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Solo
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The only place that Jesus is spoken of is in the Bible, with the exception of writings of spurious origins. What is your position on the teachings that are recorded in the Bible? I suspect that anything that you disagree with in the Bible is easily disregarded. The Bible speaks of those not being children of God as being children of the devil. What is your take on this?Lonelyguide said:Hi Solo,
For me ... we are All sons of God and I therefore view every encounter with a brother ... also this one with you ... as a holy encounter.
Again for me ... Jesus is our older brother; a brother, however, who is higher in the process of "rising up" and who consequently bridges the distance between us and God. The fact that I also regard Him as my Teacher does not prevent me from appreciating some of the teachings of Buddha. Within this context, however, it must be seen that contemporary Buddhism differs in many ways from the teachings of Buddha, just like contemporary Christianity differs in many ways from the teachings of Christ.
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Lonelyguide
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Solo said:The only place that Jesus is spoken of is in the Bible, with the exception of writings of spurious origins.
What would you call spurious origins?
The oldest bible we have is the Codex Vaticanus, a fourth century Greek codex of the Old and the New Testaments. This codex was brought to the Vatican from Constantinople as a gift to the pope in the fourteenth century. What about the origins of this codex? I mean ... fourth century means that some four hundred years passed since the days of Jesus and we all know where those who compiled (censored and "ordered") this codex (not the authors of its content) were coming from.
What of much older texts/sources:
1). Nag Hammadi (e.g. the secret gospel of Thomas),
2). the many other scrolls that have been discovered in other places
3). the many other scrolls which were destroyed intentionally by those who compiled what we now refer to as the New Testament; destroyed because those scrolls did not "fit" the agenda of these compilers.
What of sources such as the Aquarian Gospel, ACIM and countless other inspired works? Should all of that end up on a fire battery?
Solo said:What is your position on the teachings that are recorded in the Bible?
Who are we to decide what should and should not be read? And ... who are those who will decide for us what we should and should not read??? I am grateful for any shred of information about the teachings of Jesus which is brought to my attention and will, after reading it and without allowing anyone else to influence me, see whether it sits well with me and what I know of my Lord.
And the same goes for the New Testament, for how should one deal with a document of which the makers/compilers believed that they could manipulate God's word and adapt it to fit their agendas?
So, basically, my position on the teachings that are recorded in the New Testament is to study them and assimilate them in as far as they do not contradict the spirit of the two laws which supersede all laws (Mark 12:30-31).
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bibleberean
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This is a Christian forum and true Christians know that the 66 books of the bible are the word of God.
There are those who would disagree but those who do are either apostate or true Christians with bad doctrine.
Those who want to merge the teachings of Buddhism with Christianity are joining clean with unclean.
Jesus has called us to be separate and not to touch the "unclean thing".
2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2 Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
The impure that create their own Jesus are cursed.
Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
The differences between Buddhism and Christianity are so great that there is no reconciling the two.
A Jew could find common ground with the philosophy or Adolph Hitler but the differences in ideology are too vast to reconcile the two.
There are those who would disagree but those who do are either apostate or true Christians with bad doctrine.
Those who want to merge the teachings of Buddhism with Christianity are joining clean with unclean.
Jesus has called us to be separate and not to touch the "unclean thing".
2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2 Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
The impure that create their own Jesus are cursed.
Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
The differences between Buddhism and Christianity are so great that there is no reconciling the two.
A Jew could find common ground with the philosophy or Adolph Hitler but the differences in ideology are too vast to reconcile the two.
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Lonelyguide
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For me ... communication can only come about when both parties respect each other and have an open mind and show, by their responses, that they are sincerely prepared to evaluate what the other has said, and I don't particularly appreciate forms of "communication" where people lack the courtesy to do so, but merely respond by more questions or more opinions.
I cannot help smiling whenever I read "true Christians."
For me ... proclaiming oneself a "true Christian" is like saying that one is without sin. Are you without sin, BB?
And yet those who proclaim themselves "true Christians," rather than using the two Laws which supersede all laws as a blueprint for their lives and thus indeed living as true Christians, are often in judgment and, whilst constantly justifying the unjustifiable, don't cease to abuse scripture as if it were a Colt Peacemaker.
Noone said anything about "merging." Yet ... even if the two were merged ... which darkness can survive once Light enters?
For me ... unbelievers are those who, like Pharisees, wield their interpretation of the word of God as if it were a weapon meant to serve them rather than Truth, and who somewhat know the word of God but, by their actions, show that they do not live according to It.
Besides, one should not - as you do - confuse Hinduism with Buddhism. Buddhism is not a religion. It is a philosophy ... a way of living; a way, especially in its original form, which is very similar to what Jesus taught.
All of this reminds me of two rather different fig trees. But I'm running low on time and will have to get back to you later. :fadein:
bibleberean said:This is a Christian forum and true Christians know that the 66 books of the bible are the word of God.
I cannot help smiling whenever I read "true Christians."
For me ... proclaiming oneself a "true Christian" is like saying that one is without sin. Are you without sin, BB?
And yet those who proclaim themselves "true Christians," rather than using the two Laws which supersede all laws as a blueprint for their lives and thus indeed living as true Christians, are often in judgment and, whilst constantly justifying the unjustifiable, don't cease to abuse scripture as if it were a Colt Peacemaker.
bibleberean said:Those who want to merge the teachings of Buddhism with Christianity are joining clean with unclean.
Noone said anything about "merging." Yet ... even if the two were merged ... which darkness can survive once Light enters?
For me ... unbelievers are those who, like Pharisees, wield their interpretation of the word of God as if it were a weapon meant to serve them rather than Truth, and who somewhat know the word of God but, by their actions, show that they do not live according to It.
Besides, one should not - as you do - confuse Hinduism with Buddhism. Buddhism is not a religion. It is a philosophy ... a way of living; a way, especially in its original form, which is very similar to what Jesus taught.
All of this reminds me of two rather different fig trees. But I'm running low on time and will have to get back to you later. :fadein:
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Soma-Sight
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Besides, one should not - as you do - confuse Hinduism with Buddhism. Buddhism is not a religion. It is a philosophy ... a way of living; a way, especially in its original form, which is very similar to what Jesus taught.
Good point.....
Overall Buddhism is a WAY OF LIVING versus a Relgion...
Even the Buddha said on his deathbed to "work out your own Salvation" according to many sources....
The good fruits of mindful liing and non violence should be accepted by Christians and non Christians aloke despite differences....
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bibleberean
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Soma-Sight said:Besides, one should not - as you do - confuse Hinduism with Buddhism. Buddhism is not a religion. It is a philosophy ... a way of living; a way, especially in its original form, which is very similar to what Jesus taught.
Good point.....
Overall Buddhism is a WAY OF LIVING versus a Relgion...
Even the Buddha said on his deathbed to "work out your own Salvation" according to many sources....
The good fruits of mindful liing and non violence should be accepted by Christians and non Christians aloke despite differences....
Colossians 2:8-10 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Buddhism is a "dead end" philosophy.
Buddhist teachings are contrary to the teachings of Christ...