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Jesus Christ versus the Buddha......

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Jesus Christ

Everyone who believes in me will never die.

John 11.26


Buddha

Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond.

Majjhima Nikaya 22.47


Jesus Chirst

The good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world, as a testimony to all the nations; and then the end will come.

Matt 24.14


Buddha

I will not experience final nirvana until I have disciples who are knowers of the dharma and who will pass on what they have gained from their Teachers, declare it and teach the dharma of wondrous effect


Jesus Christ

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Matt 7.15


What good is hide clothing? While your inward state is a tangle, you polish your exterior.

Dhammapada 26.12


Jesus Christ

That evening they brought to him many who were possessed with demons; and he cast out the spirits with a word, and cured those who were sick.

Matt 8.16


Buddha

The venerable Kassapa was sick and afflicted, stricken with a sore disease. The Buddha spoke to him and Kassapa was delighted. Then and there he arose in his sickness and abandoned it.

Samyutta Nikaya 46.14
 
You forgot that Buddha is still in his grave awaiting the judgment, while Jesus waits to judge him at the end.
 
Soma-Sight said:
Solo,

This is True....

Of course Krishna of the Hindus and Melchizedek of the Jews may be in the judgement seat as well.... :lol:

17For it is declared:

"You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek."


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen047.html

Jesus as a Reincarnation of Buddha

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen045.html
Foolishness will never set you up in the world to come. Why do you purport foolishness when you claim to be a Christian?
 
:roll: Identical Teachings?? :roll:

Yeah right!!! Come on Soma-sight, use your God-given brain. :bday: :bday:

(1) "Do to others as you would have them do to you." (Luke 6:31)

"Consider others as yourself." (Dhammapada 10:1)

Not the same. Read it and work it out for yourself!!

(2) "If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also." (Luke 6:29)

"If anyone should give you a blow with his hand, with a stick, or with a knife, you should abandon any desires and utter no evil words." (Majjhima Nikaya 21:6)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about an insult and not a physical attack!!

(3) "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. From anyone who takes away your coat do not withhold even your shirt. Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them back." (Luke 6:27-30)

"Hatreds do not ever cease in this world by hating, but by love: this is an eternal truth. Overcome anger by love, overcome evil by good ... Overcome the miser by giving, overcome the liar by truth." (Dhammapada 1.5 & 17.3)

Not the same. Where does Buddha suggest that you (a) "bless those who curse you" or (b) "pray for those who abuse you" ????

(4) "Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me." (Matthew 25:45)

"If you do not tend one another, then who is there to tend to you? Whoever would tend me, he should tend the sick." (Vinaya, Mahavagga 8:26:3)

Not the same. Jesus was not talking about "one another" but those who are NOT like you, strangers!!

(5) "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take the sword shall perish by the sword." (Matthew 26:52)

"Abandoning the taking of life, the ascetic Gautama dwells refraining from taking life, without stick or sword." (Digha Nikaya 1:1:8)

Not the same. Buddha's saying results in vegiterian thinking... and avoiding stepping on ants!!

(6) "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, to lay down one's life for one's friend." (John 15:12-13)

"Just as a mother would protect her only child at the risk of her own life, even so, cultivate a boundless heart towards all beings. Let your thoughts of boundless love pervade the whole world." (Sutta Nipata 149-150)

Not the same. Jesus said: "Copy me and my love for you; Buddha's example is a mother's love for a child. Very different!!

(7) "Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." (John 1:17)

"The body of the Buddha is born of love, patience, gentleness and truth." (Vimalakirtinirdesha Sutra 2)

We have already seen that what Buddha said was not always "truth". John says that truth "came through" Jesus Christ.

(8) "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that someone took and sowed in his field; it is the smallest of all the seeds, but when it has grown it is the greatest of shrubs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make nests in its branches." (Matthew 13:31-32)

"Do not underestimate good, thinking it will not affect you. Dripping water can fill a pitcher, drop by drop; one who is wise is filled with good, even if one accumulates it little by little." (Dhammapada 9:7)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about "the kingdom of heaven"!!

(9) "Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, "Friend, let me take the speck out of your eye," when you yourself do not see the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye." (Luke 6:41-42)

"The faults of others are easier to see than one's own; the faults of others are easily seen, for they are sifted like chaff, but one's own faults are hard to see. This is like the cheat who hides his dice and shows the dice of his opponent, calling attention to the other's shortcomings, continually thinking of accusing him." (Undanavarga 27:1)

Not the same. Jesus tells you what to do about hypocricy, Buddha does not!!

(10) "They said to him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" He said to them, "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." (John 8:4-7)

"Do not look at the faults of others, or what others have done or not done; observe what you yourself have done and have not done." (Dhammapada 4:7)

Not the same. Misuse of Scripture by only selecting a part-quote. Jesus still instructed the woman "Go now and leave your life of sin" John 8:11

(11) "Your eye is the lamp of your body. If your eye is healthy your whole body is full of light; but if it is not healthy, your body is full of darkness. Therefore consider whether the light in you is full of darkness. If then your whole body is full of light, with no part of it in darkness, it will be as full of light as when a lamp gives you light with its rays." (Luke 11:34-36)

"As a man with eyes who carries a lamp sees all objects, so too with one who has heard the Moral Law. He will become perfectly wise." (Udanavarga 22:4)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about the "internal light"... NOT a lamp which is carried :roll:

(12) "Your father in heaven makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous." (Matthew 5:45)

"That great cloud rains down on all whether their nature is superior or inferior. The light of the sun and the moon illuminates the whole world, both him who does well and him who does ill, both him who stands high and him who stands low." (Sadharmapundarika Sutra 5)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about the "righteous and the unrighteous", Buddha was speaking about "superior and inferior".

(13) "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God." (Luke 6:20)

"Let us live most happily, possessing nothing; let us feed on joy, like the radiant gods." (Dhammapada 15:4)

Misuse of Scripture. Not the same. Jesus was talking about those who are "poor in spirit"... read Matthew 5:3.

(14) "If you wish to be perfect, go sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." (Matthew 19:21)

"The avaricious do not go to heaven, the foolish do not extol charity. The wise one, however, rejoicing in charity, becomes thereby happy in the beyond." (Dhammapada 13:11)

Misuse of Scripture. Jesus had highlighted the Rich Young Man's real "god", his money. This is NOT about charity, it is about the cost of following our Lord Jesus Christ.

(15) "He looked up and saw rich people putting their gifts into the treasury; he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. He said, "Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them; for all of them have contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in all she had to live on." (Luke 21:1-4)

"Giving is the noble expression of the benevolence of the mighty. Even dust, given in childish innocence, is a good gift. No gift that is given in good faith to a worthy recipient can be called small; it effects us so great." (Jatakamala 3:23)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about how MUCH we give in relation to how much we have.

(16) "Everyone who lives and believes in me will never die." (John 11:26)

"Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond." (Majjhima Nikaya 22:47)

Not the same. Jesus was also teaching about living IN Him. Read it again. "Everyone who lives and believes in me ....

(17) "Those who want to save their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will save it." (Mark 8:35)

"With the relinquishing of all thought and egotism, the enlightened one is liberated through not clinging." (Majjhima Nikaya 72:15)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about living FOR Him; losing your life FOR HIS SAKE. Read it again.

(18) "Foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head." (Matthew 8:20)

"The thoughtful exert themselves; they do not delight in an abode. Like swans who have left their lake they leave their house and home." (Majjhima Nikaya)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about the cost of following Him. Read the verse in context: Matthew 8:18-20

(19) "When the devil had finished every test, he departed from him until an opportune time." (Luke 4:13)

"During the six years that the Bodhisattva practiced austerities, the demon followed behind him step by step, seeking an opportunity to harm him. But he found no opportunity whatsoever and went away discouraged and discontent." (Lalitavistara Sutra 18)

Not the same. The devil departed from Jesus and waited for "an opportune time"... remember Judas and also the cross?

(20) "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God." (Matthew 5:8)

"Anyone who enters into meditation on compassion can see Brahma with his own eyes, talk to him face to face and consult with him." (Digha Nikaya 19:43)

Not the same. "Pure in heart" is NOT only about "compassion".


(21) "Although the doors were shut, Jesus came and stood among them." (John 20:26)

"He goes unhindered through a wall." (Anugattara Nikaya 3:60)

Not the same. Was Buddha resurrected? Did he rise from the dead?

(22) "And after six days Jesus takes with him Peter, and James, and John, and leads them up into a high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them." (Mark 9:2-3)

"Ananda, having arranged one set of golden robes on the body of the Lord, observed that against the Lord's body it appeared dulled. And he said, "It is wonderful, Lord, it is marvelous how clear and bright the Lord's skin appears! It looks even brighter than the golden robes in which it is clothed." (Digha Nikaya 16:4:37)

Not the same. Jesus was tranfigured.

:) :D :) :D :)
 
Gary said:
:roll: Identical Teachings?? :roll:

Yeah right!!! Come on Soma-sight, use your God-given brain. :bday: :bday:

(1) "Do to others as you would have them do to you." (Luke 6:31)

"Consider others as yourself." (Dhammapada 10:1)

Not the same. Read it and work it out for yourself!!

(2) "If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also." (Luke 6:29)

"If anyone should give you a blow with his hand, with a stick, or with a knife, you should abandon any desires and utter no evil words." (Majjhima Nikaya 21:6)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about an insult and not a physical attack!!

(3) "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. From anyone who takes away your coat do not withhold even your shirt. Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them back." (Luke 6:27-30)

"Hatreds do not ever cease in this world by hating, but by love: this is an eternal truth. Overcome anger by love, overcome evil by good ... Overcome the miser by giving, overcome the liar by truth." (Dhammapada 1.5 & 17.3)

Not the same. Where does Buddha suggest that you (a) "bless those who curse you" or (b) "pray for those who abuse you" ????

(4) "Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me." (Matthew 25:45)

"If you do not tend one another, then who is there to tend to you? Whoever would tend me, he should tend the sick." (Vinaya, Mahavagga 8:26:3)

Not the same. Jesus was not talking about "one another" but those who are NOT like you, strangers!!

(5) "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take the sword shall perish by the sword." (Matthew 26:52)

"Abandoning the taking of life, the ascetic Gautama dwells refraining from taking life, without stick or sword." (Digha Nikaya 1:1:8)

Not the same. Buddha's saying results in vegiterian thinking... and avoiding stepping on ants!!

(6) "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, to lay down one's life for one's friend." (John 15:12-13)

"Just as a mother would protect her only child at the risk of her own life, even so, cultivate a boundless heart towards all beings. Let your thoughts of boundless love pervade the whole world." (Sutta Nipata 149-150)

Not the same. Jesus said: "Copy me and my love for you; Buddha's example is a mother's love for a child. Very different!!

(7) "Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." (John 1:17)

"The body of the Buddha is born of love, patience, gentleness and truth." (Vimalakirtinirdesha Sutra 2)

We have already seen that what Buddha said was not always "truth". John says that truth "came through" Jesus Christ.

(8) "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that someone took and sowed in his field; it is the smallest of all the seeds, but when it has grown it is the greatest of shrubs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make nests in its branches." (Matthew 13:31-32)

"Do not underestimate good, thinking it will not affect you. Dripping water can fill a pitcher, drop by drop; one who is wise is filled with good, even if one accumulates it little by little." (Dhammapada 9:7)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about "the kingdom of heaven"!!

(9) "Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, "Friend, let me take the speck out of your eye," when you yourself do not see the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye." (Luke 6:41-42)

"The faults of others are easier to see than one's own; the faults of others are easily seen, for they are sifted like chaff, but one's own faults are hard to see. This is like the cheat who hides his dice and shows the dice of his opponent, calling attention to the other's shortcomings, continually thinking of accusing him." (Undanavarga 27:1)

Not the same. Jesus tells you what to do about hypocricy, Buddha does not!!

(10) "They said to him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" He said to them, "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." (John 8:4-7)

"Do not look at the faults of others, or what others have done or not done; observe what you yourself have done and have not done." (Dhammapada 4:7)

Not the same. Misuse of Scripture by only selecting a part-quote. Jesus still instructed the woman "Go now and leave your life of sin" John 8:11

(11) "Your eye is the lamp of your body. If your eye is healthy your whole body is full of light; but if it is not healthy, your body is full of darkness. Therefore consider whether the light in you is full of darkness. If then your whole body is full of light, with no part of it in darkness, it will be as full of light as when a lamp gives you light with its rays." (Luke 11:34-36)

"As a man with eyes who carries a lamp sees all objects, so too with one who has heard the Moral Law. He will become perfectly wise." (Udanavarga 22:4)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about the "internal light"... NOT a lamp which is carried :roll:

(12) "Your father in heaven makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous." (Matthew 5:45)

"That great cloud rains down on all whether their nature is superior or inferior. The light of the sun and the moon illuminates the whole world, both him who does well and him who does ill, both him who stands high and him who stands low." (Sadharmapundarika Sutra 5)

Not the same. Jesus was talking about the "righteous and the unrighteous", Buddha was speaking about "superior and inferior".

(13) "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God." (Luke 6:20)

"Let us live most happily, possessing nothing; let us feed on joy, like the radiant gods." (Dhammapada 15:4)

Misuse of Scripture. Not the same. Jesus was talking about those who are "poor in spirit"... read Matthew 5:3.

(14) "If you wish to be perfect, go sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." (Matthew 19:21)

"The avaricious do not go to heaven, the foolish do not extol charity. The wise one, however, rejoicing in charity, becomes thereby happy in the beyond." (Dhammapada 13:11)

Misuse of Scripture. Jesus had highlighted the Rich Young Man's real "god", his money. This is NOT about charity, it is about the cost of following our Lord Jesus Christ.

(15) "He looked up and saw rich people putting their gifts into the treasury; he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. He said, "Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them; for all of them have contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in all she had to live on." (Luke 21:1-4)

"Giving is the noble expression of the benevolence of the mighty. Even dust, given in childish innocence, is a good gift. No gift that is given in good faith to a worthy recipient can be called small; it effects us so great." (Jatakamala 3:23)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about how MUCH we give in relation to how much we have.

(16) "Everyone who lives and believes in me will never die." (John 11:26)

"Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond." (Majjhima Nikaya 22:47)

Not the same. Jesus was also teaching about living IN Him. Read it again. "Everyone who lives and believes in me ....

(17) "Those who want to save their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will save it." (Mark 8:35)

"With the relinquishing of all thought and egotism, the enlightened one is liberated through not clinging." (Majjhima Nikaya 72:15)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about living FOR Him; losing your life FOR HIS SAKE. Read it again.

(18) "Foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head." (Matthew 8:20)

"The thoughtful exert themselves; they do not delight in an abode. Like swans who have left their lake they leave their house and home." (Majjhima Nikaya)

Not the same. Jesus was teaching about the cost of following Him. Read the verse in context: Matthew 8:18-20

(19) "When the devil had finished every test, he departed from him until an opportune time." (Luke 4:13)

"During the six years that the Bodhisattva practiced austerities, the demon followed behind him step by step, seeking an opportunity to harm him. But he found no opportunity whatsoever and went away discouraged and discontent." (Lalitavistara Sutra 18)

Not the same. The devil departed from Jesus and waited for "an opportune time"... remember Judas and also the cross?

(20) "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God." (Matthew 5:8)

"Anyone who enters into meditation on compassion can see Brahma with his own eyes, talk to him face to face and consult with him." (Digha Nikaya 19:43)

Not the same. "Pure in heart" is NOT only about "compassion".


(21) "Although the doors were shut, Jesus came and stood among them." (John 20:26)

"He goes unhindered through a wall." (Anugattara Nikaya 3:60)

Not the same. Was Buddha resurrected? Did he rise from the dead?

(22) "And after six days Jesus takes with him Peter, and James, and John, and leads them up into a high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them." (Mark 9:2-3)

"Ananda, having arranged one set of golden robes on the body of the Lord, observed that against the Lord's body it appeared dulled. And he said, "It is wonderful, Lord, it is marvelous how clear and bright the Lord's skin appears! It looks even brighter than the golden robes in which it is clothed." (Digha Nikaya 16:4:37)

Not the same. Jesus was tranfigured.

:) :D :) :D :)
Hey, Do not be so harsh and suggest that Soma-Sight has a God-given brain, and that he refuses to use it! :-D :-D
 
Gary,

Well I dont know quite what to say here.....

You can twist and turn scripture a million different ways to "prove" your point.

To me personally the fact remains that the overiding principles expelled by both is Love and Compassion over all other things.

After all, do you imply that God left those in Buddha's time without any Light to guide them through life and death?

If this is so than Buddha and all the people who knew and followed his teachings predating Christ will burn in hell for all time....

That is insanity. (Please read my article on brainwashing found in General Forums) 8-) [/b]
 
Although Siddhartha Gautama may have been a peaceful man, his teaching is self-deceit: pride, and ultimately the unpardonable sin. The original Buddha never claimed to be god. This ideology has been twisted into what is today known as Mahayana Buddhism, mostly practiced in India. Theravada Buddhism in Sri Lanka has preserved pretty much the central issue. The original buddha didn't even believe in the soul.

As for the Mahayana claims, they can't answer these questions:

The spontaneous generation of karma? Who made that law?

If nirvana is to abolish all desire, then the closer you are trying to get to nirvana, the more you wish to have nirvana, which is an apparent contradiction, so their concept of heaven collapses in on itself.
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Short history lesson:

During the 1260's the Mongolese Emperor Kublai Khan told Marco and Nicolo Polo to get 100 priests from the Catholic Church to teach his people about Christianity. They came back to Rome after 3 and a half years. However, there was a period of turmoil during that time and nobody could elect a new pope. The situation delayed another 3 years. Then the pope sent 2 instead of 100 priests who arrived after another 3 and a half years. The people turned to Confucianism and Buddhism because of that.

Buddhism offers an incomplete semi-truth. Instead of abolishing desire, it's righteous to abolish the desire to sin. After all, this quote's been pretty much shown true after WWII:

"All that's needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing." - Lee Frank.

Buddhism or objective history.
 
1 on 1? Even if you take away the religious trappings I'd say Christ would win. A middle-eastern jewish carpenter versus a pampered prince who became a malnourished meditative nomadic hermit.

I know carpenters. They can mess you up. :wink:
 
1 on 1? Even if you take away the religious trappings I'd say Christ would win. A middle-eastern jewish carpenter versus a pampered prince who became a malnourished meditative nomadic hermit.

I know carpenters. They can mess you up.

Dont remind me....

My pops is a General Contractor that designs and builds multi-million dollar homes. He may be a good businessman but construction makes you VERY TOUGH AND MEAN.

Buddha would have to use some levitating skills in a one on one battle I would reckon.....
 
The old testament says God is one. The new testament says God is one so why do we argue that our God is better than another? God is one. If you truely believe in your God and have faith in that one God, there is no need for put downs.

Put-downs are not "constructive criticism." At a construction site, people are building something. To construct is to build. To give the kind of criticism that is constructive, you must see evidence of it helping the receiver to grow.
 
Stray cats seek strange gods! :-?

SomaSight, You are looking to strange gods for answers but they will not ever offer you the salvation of Jesus Christ.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


Jesus IS the way the truth and the life.

What makes you think anyone else can offer anything better than what Jesus did? :roll: Sheesh!

Don't you believe Jesus, you need stranger to him to tell you things that are of their own pomp? :-?


John 14:6
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 5:17
17But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.


Acts 4:12
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

John 5:22-23
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

1 Timothy 3:16
16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Luke 2:11
11For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.


Luke 18: 6-9
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:




Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


"Christ"-ians live by the The Word of God JHVH GD... Not by strange gods who only mimick wisdom, but have no offering of complete salvation in Our Lord Christ Jesus!

Jesus is my Lord.
I'll not have any other Lord over my life!

Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
 
Soma-sight is not looking to strange gods for answers. He has stated his love for Our Lord many times. His posting has exposed the paranoid looking at strange gods by people with weak faith who are afraid of other gods. God is the strongest force so if you feel your God is not the strongest force maybe your fear of other gods is justified.
 
soma said:
Soma-sight is not looking to strange gods for answers. He has stated his love for Our Lord many times. His posting has exposed the paranoid looking at strange gods by people with weak faith who are afraid of other gods. God is the strongest force so if you feel your God is not the strongest force maybe your fear of other gods is justified.


fear of other gods...Who's fear of other gods? NOT mine, I have no fear of any "other" gods! The only God I fear/revere is JHVH GD.
Learn how to word your sentences correctly instead of using pronouns that can be misinterpreted as to who you are refering to.

IF a person is a true Christian, they don't rely on any other gods, nor do they seek to compare and undermine Jesus with coming on board with topics such as Jesus vs. Buddah. :-?

If someone is of the Judeo Christian Faith then what are they trying to prove by posting things that can never match the standards and principles of the HOLY WORD that is given to us through accepting Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior?
True Christians don't need to look to other gods for enlightenment that only mimics what truth is in the the Holy Bible already!


Soma-Sight didn't do anything but act like the little fox in the hen house that he is. He comes on board and posts nothing but writings from other religions that are in contradictions to Judeo Christian teachings and beliefs, in that they don't acknowledge the truth about JESUS being LORD and Victor over all these petty things he posts around here.
He challenges the teachings of Jesus with comparing the wisdom of Jesus to that of Buddah and men.
Where did he make note as to how Jesus's teaching are superior to that of Buddah? He neglected that.
SomaSight and others like him only come here to try and undermine Jesus, and in so doing they leave out mention of the fact that No one can come to the Father but by Jesus, and that no one offers salvation as Jesus Christ.

Jesus IS the only way to the Father.
If you don't believe that then you are not of the Judeo Christian Faith
and those who are undermining Jesus Christ have no business promoting their anti-christ propaganda here, no matter how philosophical it is.

Buddha:

Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond.

Majjhima Nikaya 22.47
NO Thank you! I don't worship Buddah and I am not interested in his misleading teachings!

Soma-Sight left out of his posts the fact that Jesus is LORD and Savior over all these little gods which he keeps bringing to this forum for examination as if he is in approval of these other religions and neglects the acknowledgement that JESUS IS LORD AND SAVIOR from all deceptions and from all the sins of the world. And, Soma-Sight neglects to post as an afirmation in each of these posts of his that he looks to JESUS ONLY as HIS ONLY HOLY REDEEMER over all these controviersial writings he presents to this forum!
Soma-Sight is misleading in his messages by his neglecting to take a stand on Christ Jesus as being LORD.


John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
 
Soma-sight is not looking to strange gods for answers. He has stated his love for Our Lord many times. His posting has exposed the paranoid looking at strange gods by people with weak faith who are afraid of other gods. God is the strongest force so if you feel your God is not the strongest force maybe your fear of other gods is justified.

soma,

Thanks so much!

At least one other person around here understands my heart!!!!

I do not worship Buddha but I DO read scriptures like the Dhammapada for inspiration and for help in spiritual disciplines.

Anyone who really looks into his/her heart will find LOTS of Truth in Buddhism and in the hearts of practicing Buddhists.

A dream of mine is to climb in the Himalayas and visit the many temples out there.
 
True Christians don't need to look to other gods for enlightenment that only mimics what truth is in the the Holy Bible already!



Jesus IS the only way to the Father.
If you don't believe that then you are not of the Judeo Christian Faith
and those who are undermining Jesus Christ have no business promoting their anti-christ propaganda here, no matter how philosophical it is.

Quote:
Buddha:

Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond.

Majjhima Nikaya 22.47


2 John 1
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


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"But There are Thousands of Religions!"
(and only one true God)

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There are many man-made religions and gods. But according to the Bible, there is only ONE true God and only ONE way to serve Him.

The true God is the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. All the rest are frauds.


"Understand that I AM HE: before me there was no God formed,
neither shall there be after me."
The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob

Isaiah 43:10



There are not many paths to God. Just one--His name is Jesus. A relationship with Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, cannot be compared to any religious imitations. Jesus stands alone without equal. The following is my response to an e-mail that I recently received (with just a few edits for readability).



. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

...may I submit a response to your comments about Jesus Christ?


Your Observation: There are and have been thousands of religions. They can't each be right about everything, though each one has believers who have insisted that their religion is the one true religion.

Response: This is true. What distinguishes "Christianity" if you will, is:

A. Jesus Christ rose from the dead and was seen by over 500 people. None of the major religions of this world make the claim that their leader did this. They all lay in the grave dried up carcasses.

B. Jesus Christ offers forgiveness of sins. Every single person on this earth has sinned--lying, stealing, fornication, etc. and we need to be forgiven. If you tell a Muslim that you did something wrong and ask him for a solution, he'll shrug his shoulders. A Hindu will tell you maybe you can get it right in your next life (which is, incidentally, considered a curse by those in the east). A psychiatrist will tell you, "You need some counseling, step in my office. Oh, that'll be $200 per hour once a week." I knew a Buddhist woman who had been going to her therapist for 20 years and was no closer to relief than the first day she went!

Ask Jesus for forgiveness and He will say, "I forgive you and will give to you the water of life freely." And you will be forgiven.

C. Jesus Christ offers His disciples a relationship with the God of the universe unlike the religions of this world. They perform certain rituals and rites to please God hoping that these vain oblations will work. Buddhists chant to scrolls and give food and cigarettes to statues that cannot speak or hear (they even have to light the cigarette because their god can't do it), Muslims obey dietary and cultural laws, Hindus worship any of a combination of millions of gods and goddeses (Shiva has six arms!) with rites, Catholics do penance and worship a host of saints as well as a goddess named Mary. Some people even claim to be their own god (which is ridiculous--they can't even make one hair white or black as a result of their own will).

On the other hand, for the Christian, Jesus Christ is Succourer, Saviour and Provider. Jesus provided the sacrifice necessary to pay for our transgressions. The sacrifice of Jesus pleased God for it made a way for every man, woman, boy and girl to know Him even though they had previously been criminals who transgressed His holy laws (laws against lying, stealing, adultery, etc.). Jesus paid the price for those transgressions and everyone that repents, turns to God and believes in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus is a child of God.

Jesus is with the Christian morning, noon and night--guiding, directing, loving, perfecting. As you have tasted from your readings, His Word (which is also another name for Jesus--see John 1) is pure and doth teach us how to live, but it is far more important than that. It shows us how to know the true God, not some imitation--1) recognize that He is holy and without spot 2) recognize that we are sinful and full of spots 3) recognize that He loves us and sent His Son, Jesus Christ to die for our sins 4) believe in His Son, giving Him our lives and He will make us everything He created us to be, not to mention escaping hell.

D. Various religions have their "Holy Books" which are reported "revelations" coming through various means, e.g. dreams. But the origin of the Bible is quite different. It is rooted and grounded in history. It came from the experience of a specific people (the Jews, an ancient people who are still with us today), in identifiable places, at particular times. The archaeological record has only confirmed that the places and names found in the Bible are accurate--and has never disproven it. The Bible is not a "Holy Book" in the sense of esoteric philosophy like all other "religious" books. It is holy in the sense that it is God's word spoken through His people.
The Bible does not contain the characteristic untruths of other religious books.
In Job, one of the oldest books of the Bible (written in about 3500 B.C.), Job wrote, "He [God] hangeth the earth upon nothing". Back then, people believed the earth was on the back of turtles and elephants and all kinds of strange things--you will find no such ridiculous statements in the Bible. The only way Job could say that the earth was suspended in air is by the Holy Spirit of God revealing it to him.

The Bible is not a scientific book, but when it speaks about "scientific" matters, it is always correct. The Bible says that "the life of the flesh is in the blood". This is one of the most medically accurate statements that can be made. The blood carries all kinds of antibodies, nutrients, etc. George Washington died because the doctors (I'm sure they were the best at the time) bled him to death thinking that bleeding would help his condition--they took a quart of blood at the last bleeding. They drained his life out of him--"the life of the flesh is in the blood". Science was wrong.

When a man severed his hand in 1988, doctors could not reattach it immediately because of his internal injuries. So what did they do? They attached his hand to blood vessels in his abdomen to keep it alive and reattached it to the man's wrist two months later. The blood flow kept that hand alive--the life of the flesh is in the blood. The Bible told us this important fact over 5,000 years ago and science has only recently agreed. Does that mean that the Bible was wrong when scientists said bleeding was the answer? No. Science simply had not caught up yet.

You don't find truths like this in the various religious books but rather myth, superstition, and human wisdom. How could the psalmist write about the method of Christ's death a thousand years before Jesus came down to this earth? Crucifixion wasn't even a method of death in Israel when Psalm 22 was written. This a shallow treatise here, but a small taste of this awesome book. If we can trust the Bible for these amazing insights, can we afford to not believe it when it comes to life and death and heaven and hell?

Concerning manuscript evidence for the Bible, there is more evidence for the Bible than ANY other ancient manuscript--including the ones we use to assemble our history books--

- Aristotle - 5 copies available for comparison
- Homer - 643 copies available for comparison
- Plato - 7 copies available for comparison
- The Bible - 30,000 copies available for comparison (includes 5000+ Greek copies and another 25,000 written in other languages). This wealth of evidence is simply staggering.
Other interesting information--

The Bible was the FIRST book ever printed by moveable type.
The Bible is the bestselling book of all time. Press runs increase every year.
The Bible is the most circulated book in the world.
The Bible is the most translated book in the world.
The Bible is the most loved book in the world.
The Bible is the most hated book in the world.
No book is like the Bible. Millions have suffered and died for it. It has been burned. It has been spoken against--nevertheless it still stands because Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall NEVER pass away." The caretakers of the scriptures, the Jewish people (an ancient people) are still with us today and prophesies concerning these people are still being fulfilled.

Your Observation: [All religions] probably all have valuable lessons, whether shared truths or unique perspectives.

Response: In a humanistic sense this may be true, but God is not a human, He is a Spirit and does not accept our motives based on what we think to be true. A person can live their life on this earth without the God of the Bible trying to live a good life, but this is not acceptable to Him. The Bible says that without Jesus, "all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags." We cannot please God with our humanistic good works. If you die trusting in these works, God will reject you, because you rejected His Son, His Beautiful love offering given for you.

Your Observation: The most important part of a religion is not its heritage, ceremony or philosophical consistency, though these do have tremendous value. By far the most important part is how a religion teaches people to act towards themselves and other people.

Response: For a Bible-believing Christian like myself, the most important part of being a disciple of Jesus Christ is being saved from the wrath to come, loving my Jesus with all my heart, receiving His love, and loving others as I love myself which is a result of loving Jesus.

Your Observation: I admire Christ's teachings of kindness, forgiveness, and tolerance. These are good rules to live by.

Response: Yes, they are--but it is impossible to live up to these statutes without a relationship with Jesus Christ.

I'm still praying for you, Tracy

Reader, if you are unsaved, please ask God to reveal Himself to you. He can be known--

He is not unknowable like the Hindu says,
He is not unreachable like the Muslim says,
He is not a force (or non-existent) like the Buddhist says,
You are not alone in this world like the atheist says; and,
You certainly don't have to be unsure about His existence like the agnostic says.

Come to Jesus Christ and you will never hunger, you will never thirst or wonder again about Who God is. One of my favorite passages of scripture is

Matthew 11:28-30:
"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
--Jesus the Christ





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One more time. There is one God, He is the true God. He is the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.There is none other. The Bible says so.

"I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."Isaiah 44:6


"Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."
Isaiah 44:8


"I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me:
I girded thee, though thou hast not known me."
Isaiah 45:5

"There is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour;
there is none beside me."
Isaiah 45:21


...there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
1 Corinthians 8:4-6


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There is a right answer to the comparative religion question.
His name is Jesus.


http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/religio.htm
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CHART ONE
BUDDHISM VS. CHRISTIANITY



Buddhism: Seeks release from suffering.
Christianity: Seeks knowledge of God and His glory.

Buddhism:"Unreal" (impermanent) world.
Christianity: Real world.

Buddhism: Nihilistic, pessimistic outlook.
Christianity: Hopeful, optimistic outlook.

Buddhism: No God or Savior exists.
Christianity: One God and Savior exists.

Buddhism: Apologetic centered in subjective experience.
Christianity: Apologetic centered in objective history.

Buddhism: Trusts self.
Christianity: Trusts God.

Buddhism: Morality self-derived.
Christianity: Morality based on the infinitely holy character of God.

Buddhism: Devalues man (e. g., man is a bundle of flux; the body is evil, the mind is deceptive).
Christianity: Dignifies man (e. g., man is made in God’s own image; the believer’s body is the temple of the Holy Spirit; the mind is good and glorifies God).

Buddhism: Activity and individual life are "evil" and hamper salvation.
Christianity: Activity and individual life are good and glorify God.
Buddhism: Atheistic/polytheistic.
Christianity: Theistic.

Buddhism: Impersonal ultimate reality. (Nirvana)
Christianity: Personal ultimate reality.

Buddhism: Often anti-social.
Christianity: Responsible social action.

Buddhism: Enlightened by works.
Christianity: Salvation by grace.

Buddhism: Mysticism and the occult are spiritual activities.
Christianity: Mysticism and the occult are rejected as evil and as being opposed to God’s best interests for mankind.
Buddhism: The afterlife constitutes an impersonal, uncertain nirvana.
Christianity: The afterlife is clearly delineated and involves personal immortality.

Buddhism: Spiritual truth is discovered by disciplined effort.
Christianity: Spiritual truth is revealed by God.


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http://www.ankerberg.org/Articles/apologetics/AP0302W4.htm
 
CHART TWO
BUDDHA VS. JESUS



Buddha: Buddha is dead.
Jesus: Jesus is alive.

Buddha: In many ways the Buddha is a mystery (no contemporary biographies exist)â€â€"apart from the legends we know very little about the circumstances of his life."36
Jesus: Jesus was a historic person of whom four reliable, early biographies were penned. "It is a historic fact that Jesus Christ lived and taught what the New Testament says He taught."37

Buddha: Teachings uncertain.
Jesus: Teachings certain.

Buddha: Buddha was only a man: "Notwithstanding his own objectivity toward himself, there was constant pressure during his lifetime to turn him into a god. He rebuffed all these categorically, insisting that he was human in every respect. He made no attempt to conceal his temptations and weaknesses, how difficult it had been to attain enlightenment, how narrow the margin by which he had won through, how fallible he still remained." 38
Jesus: Jesus is incarnate God, "I am the light of the world"; "I am the way, the truth and the Life"; "He who believes in me will never die"; "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." "I and the Father are one." "You believe in God, believe also in Me." "All that the father has is Mine." "All power and authority in heaven and earth have been given to me."â€â€Jesus38

Buddha: Non-theistic worldview.
Jesus: Theistic worldview.

Buddha: A way-shower; Buddha as a person is unnecessary for achieving enlightenment.
Jesus: The Savior; salvation is impossible apart from the Person of Jesus.

Buddha: Encouraged men to follow a philosophy.
Jesus: Encouraged men to follow Him.

Buddha: Never appealed to faith.
Jesus: Stressed the importance of faith in God and Himself. ( John 17:3 )

Buddha: Rejected God.
Jesus: Called God His own Father.

Buddha: Undogmatic.
Jesus: Dogmatic.

Buddha: Offered an alleged way between the temporal and the eternal.
Jesus: Taught He was the only way between the temporal and the eternal.


http://www.ankerberg.org/Articles/apologetics/AP0302W4.htm
 
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