Jesus is Michael the Archangel!

[TruthSeeker2012]

Firstly, please allow me to say Jesus is NOT a created Angel. He is fully Man, fully God, the Messiah, the Christ, and Lord and Saviour. Jesus is Eternal. Jesus was never created. Jesus is Eternal as the Father and Holy Spirit are Eternal. Jesus has always been and always will be.

Is Jesus a literal created Lamb or Lion? Is He a created Angel? Answer: NO, but I am going to prove using Bible that Michael is just another "Title" to refer to Jesus just as Lamb and Lion is. Michael is not a created Angel. Michael the Archangel is only a name or title.

So I ask that you please read the following with an open and truth loving and seeking heart.

To begin, let's look at the phrase *angel of the LORD* in the story of Moses and the burning bush

Exo 3:2 And the *angel of the LORD* appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Now in verses four and six, who is identified as being in the bush?

Exo 3:4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.
Exo 3:6 Moreover he said, *I am* the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

Notice that the angel (messenger) of verse 2 is really none other than God Himself. This is confirmed in the New Testament-

Acts 7:30 And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an *angel of the Lord* in a flame of fire in a bush.
Acts 7:31 When Moses saw it, he wondered at the sight: and as he drew near to behold it, the voice of the Lord came unto him,

Joh 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, *I AM* THAT *I AM*: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, *I AM* hath sent me unto you.

When asked what His name is, the God of the patriarchs of the Old Testament replies *I AM*. Now look again in the New Testament-

Acts 7:32 Saying, *I am* the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Then Moses trembled, and durst not behold.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, *I am*.

Jesus Christ had just identified Himself as the One who is the God of the Old Testament patriarchs, who was present in the burning bush speaking to Moses. Just for extra measure-

Now look at the story of Hagar in Genesis-

Gen 16:7 And the *angel of the LORD* found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.
Gen 16:9 And the *angel of the LORD* said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.
Gen 16:10 And the *angel of the LORD* said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.
Gen 16:11 And the *angel of the LORD* said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
Gen 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Hagar has been visited and spoken to by the *angel of the Lord*, but look who she says it was-

Gen 16:13 And she called the name of the LORD that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me?

Why would Hagar call this Angel LORD of it wasn't referring to Jesus Himself?

Again the *angel of the Lord* is actually none other than the LORD Jesus Christ Himself

Gen 21:17 And God heard the voice of the lad; and the *angel of God* called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Gen 21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.

Who would make a great nation of the lad? Surely not a mere angel, but actually Jesus Christ Himself.

Now on to Jacob-

Gen 31:11 And the *angel of God* spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob: And I said, Here am I.

Who does this messenger identify Himself as?-

Gen 31:13 I am the God of Bethel, where thou anointedst the pillar, and where thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred

This vow of Jacob's is found in Gen 28-

Gen 28:20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
Gen 28:21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:
Gen 28:22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

So the *angel of God* of Gen 31:11 is again none other than the LORD God (Jesus Christ).

Now to the Israelites in the wilderness-

Exo 14:19 And *the angel of God*, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:

Who went before them?-

Exo 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:

Again, the messenger or *angel of God* is the same as the LORD.

Angel of God/the Lord* appears in verses 9,13,15,16,18,20 and ...

Judg 13:21 But the *angel of the LORD* did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an *angel of the LORD*.

So who had Manoah and his wife been speaking with?

Judg 13:22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.

They knew, it was God. But why not God the Father, you might ask?-

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

So none of these events I cite could be God the Father, He has never been seen by man or spoken to man. Clearly then, in the instances I cite, the phrase *angel of the LORD* or *angel of God* actually meant Jesus Christ, who is the *chief messenger (angel) of the LORD (God the Father)*, who has declared the Father to mankind.

Gen 48:14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
Gen 48:15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
Gen 48:16 The *Angel which redeemed me* from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.

Notice that Israel was talking about God and then transitioned to an angel.

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

CONTINUED:

Michael standing up is a reference to the second coming of Jesus at the end of time. Some might propose that, in these three preceding texts from Daniel, the description of Michael as a mere prince is inappropriate for Jesus, so it must be speaking of a created angel. However, note the following verses:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Acts 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;
Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

As I have clearly shown, according to scripture Jesus is the angel of the LORD, the angel of God, the Archangel Michael (the principle messenger - but not a created being), who appeared time and again in the Old Testament to speak directly to His people. He is Fully God, fully Man. Not Created, but Eternal God.

Jude 1:9 Yet *Michael the archangel*, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

This verse is a virtual duplicate of another Old Testament event-

Zec 3:1 And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the *angel of the LORD*, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
Zec 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

In both Jude 9 and Zech 3:1-2 it is Jesus, the *angel of the LORD* who is also *Michael the archangel*, contending with Satan for both Moses and Joshua.

Please note that Jude is quoting from Zechariah 3:2. "And the Lord said to Satan, 'the Lord rebuke you". Zechariah and Jude have both the Lord and Michael the archangel say the exact same thing, "the lord rebuke you".. This identifies both beings as the same person.

So with regards to "Michael" the archangel I believe that is only one of many symbols the Bible uses, for example Jesus is the Lamb, the Lion, Alpha and Omega, Good Shepherd, The Truth , The Way etc. Jesus is not literally a lamb is he? The term Archangel too is symbolic, not literal when applied to Jesus.

The term "Michael" appears only in apocalyptic passages [ie prophetic passages which describe supernatural battles]... and all apocalyptic passages are symbolic, not literal by nature and definition. All the references are: Dan 10:13,21; 12:1; Jude 1:9; Rev 12:7. These are the only references and are all symbolic and apocalyptic. Michael is a symbolic title ONLY, just as Lamb is.

Many Bible scholars of various churches identify Michael with Jesus: e.g. Prof. Carl Friedrich Keil, " Biblical commentary on the book of Daniel". Commentary of the OT. Keil and Delitzsch. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans Publishing Co. 1975 p.410....says, "The ... [ish] seen by Daniel was no common angel-prince, but a manifestation of Jehovah, ie the Logos [Jesus]. This is placed beyond a doubt by acomparison with Rev 1:13-15."
A list can be supplied if required.

Michael means "one like God" So you believe if it doesn't refer to Jesus, that some mere Angel that was even lower than Lucifer himself, is one LIKE GOD? Of course not, so Michael is none other than our beautiful Lord Jesus Himself.

Not angel in the sense of a created being, but rather in the generic sense of the word, meaning messenger.

What created angel could redeem anyone? None. Redemption is found only in Jesus Christ, the very Son of God, and that is exactly who Jacob (Israel) had been speaking with and about. Jesus was, and is, that redeeming angel (messenger) sent from God the Father.

So now, what of Michael the archangel? Is it so difficult to believe that he may actually be Jesus Christ?

Who calls the dead at His Coming? Answer: Jesus
1Th 4:6 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Who raises the dead with His voice? Not a created angel, indeed not even a created archangel. The shout is given with the voice of the *archangel*, the LORD Jesus Christ Himself.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

It is the voice of Jesus Christ (the Son of man) that raises the dead. Just as 1 Th 4:16 says, the Lord Jesus shall descend from heaven and shout with the voice of the Archangel, because He is the Archangel. With that shout, the righteous dead will be raised from their graves.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Lucifer was the Highest Angel before he was cast out. And Michael the Archangel is a title for Jesus.

 

[Webb]

1. God said to Jesus: "Thou art my son", Heb.1:5
2. God never told an angel "Thou art my son", Heb.1:5
3. THEREFORE, Jesus is NOT an angel!

 

[Rageprophet]

Jesus Christ is "Lord of lords and King of kings" (Rev. 17:14, NWT) and is "far above every government and authority and power and lordship and every name named, not only in this system of things, but also in that to come" (Ephesians 1:21, NWT). And, unlike "Michael who did not dare condemn the Devil with insulting words, but said, The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9, Today's English Version), Jesus Christ displayed His authority over the devil when He freely commanded him, "Go away, Satan!" (Matthew 4:10, NWT).

 

[Rageprophet]

Hebrews 1


1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
11They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
12And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
13But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

1. God said to Jesus: "Thou art my son", Heb.1:5
2. God never told an angel "Thou art my son", Heb.1:5
3. THEREFORE, Jesus is NOT an angel!

1. Your comments proves that you didn't read my WHOLE post!2

2. Where did God say "Thou art my Lion"?

3. Is Jesus a Lion or not? If yes, then why? If no, then why not?

4. Is Jesus a Lamb? Yes or No? If yes, then are you claiming Jesus is a literal Lamb? If no, why not?

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

Hebrews 1


1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
11They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
12And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
13But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

1. Do you admit that God was called an "angel" after reading the verses I posted in my first post? Yes or No?

2. Do you agree that "an angel" was speaking to Moses through the burning bush? Yes or No? If yes, then tell me, who was this "angel"? If no, then why do you reject Scripture?

3. The term "Michael" appears only in apocalyptic passages [ie prophetic passages which describe supernatural battles]... and all apocalyptic passages are symbolic, not literal by nature and definition. Do you agree? If no, explain why.

 

[Webb]

My comment "proves" I read my Bible!

 

[Rageprophet]

2. Do you agree that "an angel" was speaking to Moses through the burning bush? Yes or No? If yes, then tell me, who was this "angel"? If no, then why do you reject Scripture?

No. Because scripture was not given to us to be dictated by your personal revelation. It was not "an angel" it was "The Angel of The Lord".

The Angel of Jehovah of the Old Testament no longer appears after the incarnation of Christ.

1. Do you admit that God was called an "angel" after reading the verses I posted in my first post? Yes or No?

Once again no and for the exact same reason.

Now if Jesus was the Archangel then why does it never tell us so in the scritpure without having to loosely(very loosely) trying to chain obnoxious amounts of scripture together while twisting them, for us to come to this conclusion? If Jesus name was already Michael then why on Earth would he assume a diffrent name when he came to earth? To cause confusion? There is not one reference in the entire bible that makes reference to Jesus Christ as Michael the Archangel. Instead Hebrews the ENTIRE first chapter tells us the exact opposite.

 

[Rageprophet]

Isaiah 44:24
King James Version (KJV)


24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

 

[Rageprophet]

Dan 10:13 NWT. But the prince of the royal realm of Persia was standing in opposition to me for twenty-one days, and, look! Mi´cha•el, one of the foremost princes, came to help me; and I, for my part, remained there beside the kings of Persia.
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Note in the above that Michael is only "one of the foremost princes." That is, he is not unique but is one among many of the same rank. Therefore on that basis alone Michael the archangel cannot be Jesus Christ, who as God's only Son is unique and distinguished in the Bible from "the angels," which includes archangels

 

[Rageprophet]

Jude 9 NWT. But when Mi´cha•el the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses' body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: "May Jehovah rebuke you."
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Again, there is nothing in this verse which states that "Jesus himself is the archangel Michael"!

Jude in fact mentions "Jesus Christ" six times in his short letter:

Jude 1 NWT. Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ, but a brother of James, to the called ones who are loved in relationship with God [the] Father and preserved for Jesus Christ:

Jude 4 NWT. ... ungodly men, turning the undeserved kindness of our God into an excuse for loose conduct and proving false to our only Owner and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Jude 17 NWT. As for YOU, beloved ones, call to mind the sayings that have been previously spoken by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Jude 21 NWT. keep yourselves in God's love, while YOU are waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ with everlasting life in view. ...
Jude 25 NWT. to [the] only God our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, might and authority for all past eternity and now and into all eternity. Amen.
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with no indication that "Mi´cha•el the archangel" and "Jesus Christ" are one and the same.
Indeed, the very fact that "Mi´cha•el the archangel ... did not dare to bring a judgment against" the Devil is itself evidence that Michael is not Jesus Christ, because Jesus did in fact rebuke Satan and drove him away:

 

[n2thelight]

You kidding right...............That's about all I can say!!!!!

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

No. Because scripture was not given to us to be dictated by your personal revelation. It was not "an angel" it was "The Angel of The Lord"...

Acts 7:30 And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an *angel of the Lord* in a flame of fire in a bush.

Who is the "angel of the Lord" that spoke to Moses in the burning Bush? God or someone else?

If you admit it was GOD who spoke to Moses, then do you also admit that God was called "the angel of the Lord"? If no, then you contradict Bible. If yes, then do you admit that God was called "angel of the Lord"?

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

You kidding right...............That's about all I can say!!!!!

1. Tell me, who is the "angel of the Lord" that spoke to Moses through the burning Bush?

2. Who was the "angel of the LORD" who spoke to Hagar?

 

[n2thelight]

In the Old Testament,I can see the Angel of the Lord,being Christ, before He came in the flesh,however no way can Michael be Christ

 

[Rageprophet]

Acts 7:30 And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an *angel of the Lord* in a flame of fire in a bush.

Who is the "angel of the Lord" that spoke to Moses in the burning Bush? God or someone else?

If you admit it was GOD who spoke to Moses, then do you also admit that God was called "the angel of the Lord"? If no, then you contradict Bible. If yes, then do you admit that God was called "angel of the Lord"?

is there a point to this? I just showed you with scripture that had Jesus been Michael scripture would have proved this which it proves quite the contrary.

The Angel of The Lord is speaking of Jesus Christ the second member in the Trinity in equal standing with God the father and the Holy Spirit. I said this earlier, but I guess I have to say it a certain way for you to understand..

The Angel of The Lord that spoke to Moses through the burning bush was Jesus!


Now if you don't believe Jesus is God or an equal member of the trinity that would explain why you are having troubling understanding what I am saying.

 

[jasoncran]

the word angelos(angel) means messenger as well in latin.

the word malak in hebrew also can mean that. the name ANGEL UNTO THE LORD is by hebrew traditions the same as the person they called el shaddai and also to be known in translations as the great provider/good sheephard. Jesus claim that tile for himself.

so we can worship angels? if jesus was an angel then we can worship angels. micheal cant be his name as micheal is an archangel at the most or an angel at the lest. per jude 9 why would the lord who would die and created the universe have such trouble telling satan that was lucifer where to go, and whom he created? so his own creations have such power over the LORD?

 

[handy]

Acts 7:30 And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an *angel of the Lord* in a flame of fire in a bush.

Who is the "angel of the Lord" that spoke to Moses in the burning Bush? God or someone else?

If you admit it was GOD who spoke to Moses, then do you also admit that God was called "the angel of the Lord"? If no, then you contradict Bible. If yes, then do you admit that God was called "angel of the Lord"?

One can and many have concluded that Jesus is/was the Angel of the Lord...without concluding that Michael and Jesus are one in the same.

Please note that Jude is quoting from Zechariah 3:2. "And the Lord said to Satan, 'the Lord rebuke you". Zechariah and Jude have both the Lord and Michael the archangel say the exact same thing, "the lord rebuke you".. This identifies both beings as the same person.

No, Jude is referring to a completely different event. Jude is discussing when there was a dispute over the body of Moses:

Jude 1:9 But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!â€

Zechariah is relating an event wherein the high priest Joshua was standing before the Lord and Satan was going to accuse him. Or oppose him, perhaps resist...the original language can mean any of the three, but the context lends itself to accuse. The Lord instead rebuked Satan.

Zechariah 3:1-2 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him. The LORD said to Satan, “The LORD rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, the LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?â€

Zechariah isn't referring to the body of Moses and Jude isn't referring to Joshua the High Priest. Totally different situations.

Can you explain in more detail and giving more Scripture why you are making the jump of the Angel of the Lord being Michael...

A strong case can and is made by many that the Angel of the Lord is sometimes Jesus preincarnate...but where is Michael referred to as the Angel of the Lord? If you have texts that call Michael the Angel of the Lord, I'd like to look at them.

I know some take 1 Thessalonians 4:16 as "proof" that Michael and Jesus are one in the same, but it doesn't say that at all. The text states:

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first."

This isn't very good as far as a proof text goes...it only says that Jesus will descend with both the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. To say then that Jesus is Michael the Archangel is also saying that Jesus is the trumpet of God...not really all that logical. To see what Paul is truly referring to it's best just to look at what Jesus Himself said would happen...

Matthew 24:30-31 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Jesus is returning with the angels, and it most likely that Michael will be right there with Him...

...but I truly cannot see why some try to equate Jesus with Michael or even Michael with the Angel of the Lord.

 

[jasoncran]

dora that is a bad translation from hebrew to english if i recall in zechariah it says when letirally render without grammar of course in proper context:


Hebrew Transliterated
3:2 VY'aMUr YHVH 'aL-HShTN YG'yUr YHVH BK HShTN VYG'yUr YHVH BK HBChUr BYUrVShLM HLV'a ZH 'aVD MTShL M'aSh.

Latin Vulgate
3:2 et dixit Dominus ad Satan increpet Dominus in te Satan et increpet Dominus in te qui elegit Hierusalem numquid non iste torris est erutus de igne

King James Version
3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

American Standard Version
3:2 And Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, O Satan; yea, Jehovah that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

Bible in Basic English
3:2 And the Lord said to the Satan, May the Lord's word be sharp against you, O Satan, the word of the Lord who has taken Jerusalem for himself: is this not a burning branch pulled out of the fire?

Darby's English Translation
3:2 And Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, O Satan! Yea, Jehovah that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee! Is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

Douay Rheims Bible
3:2 And the Lord said to Satan: The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan: and the Lord that chose Jerusalem rebuke thee: Is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

Noah Webster Bible
3:2 And the LORD said to Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

World English Bible
3:2 Yahweh said to Satan, Yahweh rebuke you, Satan; yes, Yahweh that has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Young's Literal Translation
3:2 And Jehovah saith unto the Adversary: `Jehovah doth push against thee, O Adversary, Yea, push against thee doth Jehovah, Who is fixing on Jerusalem, Is not this a brand delivered from fire?`

if you notice its hard to say that in english given the myriad ways its taken. in context handy is right., and look at the last one translated litireally., almost what i think it says.