Jimmy Carter

[Milk-Drops]

Bigots means anyone who disagrees with a liberal. You know, the tolerant ones.

Also, who said liberals would tolerate bigots? Liberals are very clear that they won't tolerate bigots. Crying that people fight back against your lies and conspiracies is the same free speech you get. You spew a bunch of lies and nonsense, people fight back by pointing it out and calling you a bigot. Cry harder.

 

[Barbarian]

Source: https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf

Looking at the document, all they have is "estimates" with no data backing them up. They then put the "estimates" into a table and presented that as data.

Notice that Texas used actual data on income, jobs, and wealth created to show the economic impact of undocumented workers.

Your guys were just a pack of politicians telling us to trust them. Here's another study that actually used data instead of "trust us."

This paper provides a statistical portrait of the US undocumented population, with an emphasis on the social and economic condition of mixed-status households – that is, households that contain a US citizen and an undocumented resident. It is based primarily on data compiled by the Center for Migration Studies (CMS). Major findings include the following:

• There were 3.3 million mixed-status households in the United States in 2014.
• 6 million US-born citizens share 3 million households with undocumented residents (mostly their parents). Of these US-born citizens, 5.7 million are children (under age 18).
• 2.9 million undocumented residents were 14 years old or younger when they were brought to the United States.
• Three-quarters of a million undocumented residents are self-employed, having created their own jobs and in the process, creating jobs for many others.
• A total of 1.3 million, or 13 percent of the undocumented over age 18, have college degrees.
• Of those with college degrees, two-thirds, or 855,000, have degrees in four fields: engineering, business, communications, and social sciences.
• Six million undocumented residents, or 55 percent of the total, speak English well, very well, or only English.
• The unemployment rate for the undocumented was 6.6 percent, the same as the national rate in January 2014.[1]
• Seventy-three percent had incomes at or above the poverty level.
• Sixty-two percent have lived in the United States for 10 years or more.
• Their median household income was $41,000, about $12,700 lower than the national figure of $53,700 in 2014 (US Census Bureau 2015).

Based on this profile, a massive deportation program can be expected to have the following major consequences:

• Removing undocumented residents from mixed-status households would reduce median household income from $41,300 to $22,000, a drop of $19,300, or 47 percent, which would plunge millions of US families into poverty.
• If just one-third of the US-born children of undocumented residents remained in the United States following a mass deportation program, which is a very low estimate, the cost of raising those children through their minority would total $118 billion.
• The nation’s housing market would be jeopardized because a high percentage of the 1.2 million mortgages held by households with undocumented immigrants would be in peril.
• Gross domestic product (GDP) would be reduced by 1.4 percent in the first year, and cumulative GDP would be reduced by $4.7 trillion over 10 years.

CMS derived its population estimates for 2014 using a series of statistical procedures that involved the analysis of data collected by the US Census Bureau’s American Community Survey (ACS). The privacy of all respondents in the survey is legally mandated, and, for the reasons listed in the Appendix, the identity of undocumented residents cannot be derived from the data. A detailed description of the methodology used to develop the estimates is available at the CMS website.[2]

Mass Deportations Would Impoverish US Families and Create Immense Social Costs - The Center for Migration Studies of New York (CMS)

DOWNLOAD PDF (ENGLISH) EXECUTIVE SUMMARY This paper provides a statistical portrait of the US undocumented population, with an emphasis on the social and economic condition of mixed-status households – that is, households that contain a US citizen and an undocumented resident....

cmsny.org

Notice, that like Comptroller Strayhorn (Rep. Texas), they aren't hiding where the data comes from. Maybe "trust us, we're the government and we know best", is good enough for you, but it's not good enough for anyone who cares about the truth.

 

[Barbarian]

Almost all
the increase in economic activity goes to the illegal immigrants themselves in the form of
wages

Perhaps you don't know how a free economy works. You think employers hire workers and get no economic benefit from them? Seriously? You think employers don't withhold taxes, Medicare, and Social Security from worker's paychecks? You think undocumented workers don't buy food, pay for housing, gasoline, and pay sales tax? Seriously? C'mon.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Jimmy Carter was the first president to openly support LGBTQ rights. He was the first to meet with gay rights activists and opposed the homophobic California Briggs Initiative. He also endorsed a gay rights plank in the democratic party's platform in 1980 when running for reelection.​

Carter has stated that he supports same-sex marriage in civil ceremonies. He said: "I believe Jesus would. I don't have any verse in scripture ... I believe Jesus would approve gay marriage, but that's just my own personal belief.

Gee, and Carter was protestant Baptist Sunday school teacher for decades.

Hypothetical: I wonder what the content of the epistle John or Paul would write to the Maranatha Baptist Church in Plains Georgia when referring to Jimmy.

Freddy, discussing political leaders unless it is praying for them and lifting them up to God instead of simply bad mouthing them is unBiblical, a violation of scripture, and a violation of the rules here. Do not start threads on political leaders here unless you intend on abiding by all three.

Milk-Drops Barbarian. You both should know better by now. This thread will be locked, and any further violations in the future will be met with discipline. No one is edified by anything in this thread.