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Bible Study John 3:5

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Donovb

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Jesus says that you have to be reborn again in water and spirit to enter the kingdom of God. So why do people say that you do not need to be water bapitized to enter Heaven? The reason I ask is because I have means of being water bapitized unless I bapitize myself. I have asked God to save me, probably at least 20 to 30 times lol, probably overkill but I just want to be sure. God Bless!!!!!!!
 
ya but he does specifically say that you have to be water bapitized to enter Heaven.
 
IF it bothers you that much have you looked for a church in your area told them your situation and asked if the pastor would baptize you into Christ?

The idea is not to be baptized into a denomination but into Him.

My dad is past away i know he would counseled you a bit then if all was cool, baptized you .. He could not be the only pastor to do so...
 
Donovb said:
Jesus says that you have to be reborn again in water and spirit to enter the kingdom of God. So why do people say that you do not need to be water bapitized to enter Heaven? The reason I ask is because I have means of being water bapitized unless I bapitize myself. I have asked God to save me, probably at least 20 to 30 times lol, probably overkill but I just want to be sure. God Bless!!!!!!!
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You don't need to join a church in order to be baptized. Actually another believer/Christian can baptize you. It doesn't have to a minister or pastor.

Have a look at God's 2 greatest commandments.

Mark 12
28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Romans 13
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


Acknowledge God and worship Him with every fiber of your being and treat people the way you want to be treated.

It's really that simple.

There's only one unforgivable sin and it doesn't involve baptism.


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Donovb said:
Jesus says that you have to be reborn again in water and spirit to enter the kingdom of God. So why do people say that you do not need to be water bapitized to enter Heaven? The reason I ask is because I have means of being water bapitized unless I bapitize myself. I have asked God to save me, probably at least 20 to 30 times lol, probably overkill but I just want to be sure. God Bless!!!!!!!
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Hello, and welcome to our fellowship. John 3:5 is not talking about water baptism that follows Salvation. The Scripture I like to use is Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost." That my friend is what Jesus is saying. The Holy Spirit is said to baptize us into the family of God by a spiritual baptism that washes away our sins. It's called regeneration and renewing, and it is the work of the Holy Spirit.

If you have believed on Jesus the Christ, are repentant of your sins and have asked for Jesus to be your Lord and Savior then you have become born again, spiritually baptized by the Holy Spirit and a member of the family of God. Now you seek a church where you can confess openly before men that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, the pastor will baptize you in water. Water baptism is an outward testimony to your belief in Jesus. Not being water baptized will not keep you out of Heaven.
 
Ephesians 2:8 Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus and not by works, which would make water baptism a work towards repentance. John said I must decrease and Jesus increase, but yet Jesus never baptized in actual water.

John 3:5 never mentions the word baptize, but says only by being born of water and spirit, which means water as living water (word) that no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are Spiritually renewed (born again) by the word, which is Christ Jesus and by the Holy Spirit that that comes on us as in the OT and indwells us in the NT. Many do read into the passage a preconceived idea or theology, but baptism is never mentioned in this verse. Word is living water as described in John 4:10; 7:38; 1John 5:6; Jeremiah 2:13; Isaiah 55:1-3 to name a few.

If salvation came by actual immersion in water Jesus clearly could have simply stated, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is baptized and born of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Further, if Jesus had made such a statement, He would have contradicted numerous other Bible passages that make it clear that salvation is by faith (John 3:16; John 3:36; Ephesians 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).

We do bring up the case of the thief on the cross who repented, the women who was to be stoned for adultery, the women at the well, death bed confessions and even those who are incapacitated that can not be immersed in water. Does this mean they are not saved or born again, no. It means that no dirty river water is going to save anyone, but that it is only a symbol of repentance, but not for repentance and Spiritual renewal. There is nothing wrong with being dunked in water, but know that it is only an outward appearance to others of what has already taken place Spiritually within you.
 
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