Bible Study Kingdom

[Douglas Summers]

One word in the OT "Hebrew" (in it's various forms), And one word in the NT, "Greek" are translated "Kingdom". This is a show of unity in establishing the Kingdom, according to God's plan and will. The KINGDOM, in the ultimate plan of God is one. (one Kingdom)
But in establishing Kingdom unity, man passes through many forms and progressive developments, because of his resistance to listen to and obey God.

The primary teaching in Scripture is that, In the whole universe (which is the sphere of God's rule) that the earth is a revolted province, and the Kingdom in it's various forms (relating to the earth) is the Divine Method of re-establishing humanity in willing and affectionate obedience to "God, even the Father." (1 Cor. 15: 24).

There are two truths about the Kingdom in the Scriptures; Adam's failure to keep his rule over the earth and it's effects. (Gen. 1: 26-28; 3: 17-19) And God's re-establishment of the rule of the earth under the last Adam. (1 Cor. 15:24). The Kingdom is the divine rule by which the will of God is applied to the affairs- religious, social, political--of the earth. "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." (Matt. 6: 10) Part of much of the confusion of Kingdom teaching is not understanding the distinct meanings of qualifying words or phrases, such as, "Kingdom of Heaven," "Kingdom of God,". And that "Kingdom" and "Church" are not only different words, but different things.
The most far reaching destruction of the position of the Church has been the Judaizing of the Church. It has done more to hinder her progress, pervert her mission and destroy her Spirituality than all other causes combined. Instead of pursing her appointed path of SEPARATION, PERSECUTION, POVERTY, and NONRESTIANCE, she has lowered her purpose to the civilization of the world, by the accumulation of wealth, the use of imposing rituals, and the erection of magnificent Church buildings. But the distinction to Israel's national incentive to godliness was earthly rewards.

The Church are those that are called out (the whole body of the redeemed) from the "Day of Pentecost" to the descent of the Lord into "the air," according to (1 Thess. 4: 13-18).
Reference Scriptures: Matt. 16:18; Acts 2: 47; 5:11; 1 Cor. 10: 32; 12: 28; Eph. 1:22; 3:10, 21; 5: 23-32; Phlip. 3:6; Col. 1:18; 24; 1 Tim. 3:5, 15; Heb. 2: 12; 12:23.

The Church is the body of Christ. The Church is not an organization, but a living organism and a spiritual body, each part depending on each other. (1 Cor. 12: 12-13) No part being independent of each other, and with Christ as head of that body. (Eph. 1: 22-23) (1 Corinthians chapter 12)
One day the body of Christ will be complete. (The Epistle to the Ephesians). Also called the "fullness of the Gentiles." (Rom. 5:11)
Scripture teaches that at this time, Christ's attention is to the calling out of the Gentile as part of the Church (true Church) the body of Christ (Acts 15: 13-18) Then after this (the fullness of the Gentiles into the Church), God will build up and establish the tabernacle of David. (The nation of Israel) Then Christ (son of David) will be ruling as King and prince of all nations. (Rev. 1: 4-6) Christ is not king of the Church, He is the head of the Church. And we are called, and by rebirth have become the Son's of God (not children) and brothers of Christ, calling God our father. (Romans 8: 9-17) The members of Christ body are expected to suffer with Christ. Not by self willed sacrifice, but by the born again Spirit of grace and charity. A far cry from today's Huge and beautiful multi million dollar church cathedrals and your name it and claim it preachers using the Scriptures of material promises to Israel, to bilk the sheep that follow them.

 

[reba]

Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Yes, the born again believer should not bring to dispute the practice of doubtful things that one may do to honor the lord in eating certain foods or keeping certain holidays that they do to honor their lord. For the Kingdom of God is not about eating or drinking, but peace through love by not being contrite to another member for his honoring the Lord in what he is condemned by or not condemned by in certain personal practices, as he personally eats or drink or keeps certain days as to honoring his lord. This is called a righteous Spirit by the liberty and peace we have in Christ. (Romans Chapter 14)

But things that have been revealed and taught to us by the Lord are certain and true, Scripture calls it the Doctrine of Christ. (Heb. 6:1) (Rom. 6:17) (Rom. 16: 17) (1 Tim. 1:3) (1 Tim. 4:6) (1 Tim. 4:16; 5:17; 6: 3) (2 Tim. 3:16; 4: 2, 3) (Titus 1:9; 2:1, 7, 10) (2 John 9).
Those Doctrines that we are to follow are: Sin, Death, Israel, The Grace of God in Jesus Christ , The Kingdom, The Church, Baptism, God's purpose, Law, Works, Man (after Adam), Man (after Christ), Last things and more. All these Doctrines are defined in Scripture and are not to be changed to fit one's self willed worship.

 

[reba]

the doctrine of sin?

 

[Chopper]

Very good posting my friend Douglas. Recently, a good friend of mine set me straight on the translation that I was using. Roro1972 gave me a web site about the ESV and its errors. I have since gone back to my KJV and hopefully will stick with it. Now that I have been thinking on the various miss-translations, I fear that the modern translations like the NIV, ESV and others have really weakened the Church of Jesus Christ. Just my thoughts.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Chopper,
That is so, very, true! I went through the NIV and found it weakening and at the time was teaching my Primaries Class from the NKJV that they should, easily, move into the KJV as they grew. My personal preference is the NASB for one reason and that is, unlike the KJV, the NASB is as close to a word for word translation as is possible with the English Language. The King James Authorized is much more of a thought for thought translation, making it a much better translation for everything from the serious student of the scriptures to the Sunday only reader. As a matter of fact, I keep both the NASB and the KJV within easy reach, often reading them in parallel for esae of understanding.

 

[reba]

God is the tabernacle of David... The tabernacle of David was a simple covering... what we today would compare to

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Christ is our covering.. He is the builder

1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
Heb 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

All this and so many folks are yearning for a man made palace .... The Jewish leaders 2000 years ago could not see the King in Jesus... they also wanted a palace.. a King made in their image...


side note for smiles
I find it interesting that Paul was also a tent maker..

 

[Douglas Summers]

the doctrine of sin?

The Scriptures trace the origin of sin to Satan, tell the story of the entrance of sin into the world, gives the long history of the evil wrought by sin, and set forth Christ crucified as the divine remedy for sin as the guilty act of man, and the nature of man, which unrenewed, is it self sin.

Apart from the Scriptures there is no understanding of the horror, shame and evil of sin. Non- Christian moralist largely treat sin as ignorance, misfortune, and weakness and rarely as guilt. The human remedy is culture of mind and and body. In the pages of history, the world was never so vile when pagan culture was at it's zenith, Including the governing church of that era.

 

[Chopper]

Chopper,
That is so, very, true! I went through the NIV and found it weakening and at the time was teaching my Primaries Class from the NKJV that they should, easily, move into the KJV as they grew. My personal preference is the NASB for one reason and that is, unlike the KJV, the NASB is as close to a word for word translation as is possible with the English Language. The King James Authorized is much more of a thought for thought translation, making it a much better translation for everything from the serious student of the scriptures to the Sunday only reader. As a matter of fact, I keep both the NASB and the KJV within easy reach, often reading them in parallel for esae of understanding.

Thanks old Buddy. her is the web site if your interested. http://www.scionofzion.com/esv_exposed.htm

 

[Douglas Summers]

God is the tabernacle of David... The tabernacle of David was a simple covering... what we today would compare to

View attachment 8198
Christ is our covering.. He is the builder

1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
Heb 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

All this and so many folks are yearning for a man made palace .... The Jewish leaders 2000 years ago could not see the King in Jesus... they also wanted a palace.. a King made in their image...


side note for smiles
I find it interesting that Paul was also a tent maker..

Those Scriptures are true reba, but if you are trying to say they mean we are the kingdom or that the kingdom of God is in us is not a doctrine. Scripture says that we are the TEMPLE of the lord (2 Cor. 6:16; 1 Cor. 3: 16-17; 6:19) (Eph. 2: 19-22). The Kingdom is where Christ sits upon the throne in Jerusalem as son of David over Israel and all nations, on the earth,( there will be a new heaven and earth). Do you not believe that God can not create a visible heavenly city upon the earth as described in Revelation Chapters 20 and 21 ? One note, Christ is not a covering of our sins (that was OT sacrifices). Animal sacrifices only covered our sins, NT gives us a new covenant of the priesthood, wherefore nothing is covered, but is taken away (no more remembrance of sin from year to year) (Book of Hebrews)

 

[reba]

The Kingdom is where Christ sits upon the throne in Jerusalem as son of David over Israel and all nations, on the earth,( there will be a new heaven and earth).

The Words of Jesus ...
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

 

[Douglas Summers]

God is the tabernacle of David... The tabernacle of David was a simple covering... what we today would compare to

View attachment 8198
Christ is our covering.. He is the builder

1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
Heb 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

All this and so many folks are yearning for a man made palace .... The Jewish leaders 2000 years ago could not see the King in Jesus... they also wanted a palace.. a King made in their image...


side note for smiles
I find it interesting that Paul was also a tent maker..

Something else to think about reta, There are 360 Scriptures references of a millennial reign of Christ upon the earth. There is also a description of the new heaven and earth and it's people.. Every born again believer has in him the occupying Spirit of citizenship that will make up the Kingdoms residence, but we still have the Adamic nature beside it. In the Kingdom, that Adamic nature will not exist, so we are not there yet.

 

[reba]

The dispensational teachings IMO devalue Jesus and the Cross. was in it for a good number of years..
To me Jesus said what He said,, The Words of Jesus ...
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

nice to be in a place that allows for differences.. as a forum we welcome different views that still fall into Christianity

 

[Douglas Summers]

Very good posting my friend Douglas. Recently, a good friend of mine set me straight on the translation that I was using. Roro1972 gave me a web site about the ESV and its errors. I have since gone back to my KJV and hopefully will stick with it. Now that I have been thinking on the various miss-translations, I fear that the modern translations like the NIV, ESV and others have really weakened the Church of Jesus Christ. Just my thoughts.

Yes, Chopper. It is amazing how many translation have quashed the Spiritual content of Scripture to a meaningless phrase that was not intended. Scripture is Spiritual in content. Amen.

 

[Douglas Summers]

The dispensational teachings IMO devalue Jesus and the Cross. was in it for a good number of years..
To me Jesus said what He said,, The Words of Jesus ...
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

nice to be in a place that allows for differences.. as a forum we welcome different views that still fall into Christianity

What do you think dispensation means in Scripture? I don't teach dispensation, but it is in Scripture. (It means STEWARDSHIP). One who has been given a responsibility to carry out God's will or command. Every covenant that God has given man, and every instruction is to be followed to achieve the results that God planned for. But to achieve the intended results, one must be faithful, that is called STEWARDSHIP or a dispensation. (1 Cor. 9:17) (Eph. 1: 10; 3: 2) (Col. 1:25) (1 Cor. 4:1-2) (1 Pet. 4:19) (Luke 16: 2-4).

There can be no different view from what Doctrines Christ taught. There can be debate and study to help those who are not sure or in error of self willed or false teachers doctrines. We are not to be tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine. A man who is seeking the truth of Christ's teachings and ask the Lord to show him the TRUTH. Your life will change, for He will tear away everything in your life that you have put before Him until there is nothing else to hold on to but the Lord. Really!

In His Grace
Douglas Summers

 

[reba]

Yes i know dispensation is 'stewardship.'

There can be no different view from what Doctrines Christ taught.

exactly the point of
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

 

[Chopper]

Well, when all is said and done I like Abraham am looking for a City not made with hands. The New Jerusalem will be the Capital City of the new Heavens and Earth.

 

[reba]

are ye not come to Sion?

 

[reba]

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

 

[Douglas Summers]

The Words of Jesus ...
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

"with in" The Greek word "entos" means "in the midst" not "within." For wherever Christ is, there is the Kingdom. I'am sure that the Lord knew the Pharisee's did not have the Kingdom within them, but the Kingdom was among them. Christ is the Kingdom, the Kingdom is not material, it is Spiritual.