Let No Man Decieve You

[lecoop]

I'm in agreement with Josh and have heen over this s few times before. Apostasia, as it is used in the NT and the Greek Septuagint indicates defection. See Acts 21:21:

And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

Ah! Vic, it is just not that easy. For example, suppose the verse ended with "forsake."

"And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake."

or

"And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to depart."

or ""And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to "apostasia."

Without the added words, all this gives us is the idea of a "daparture." It could be a spatial departure, as in "walk away!" This is simply because that is all that the Greek word means. We can easily see, after the word "Moses" is added, that it means a departure from "Moses." Then Luke goes on to show what he meant: no need to circumcise children.

Therefore, we must be careful not to read into Paul's use of the word, anything more that what that word actually means: "departure."

(Thayers, Smith)
Apo: A departing, separation, of separation of a part from the whole
where of a whole some part is taken

Stasis: A standing station, state, an insurrection

Therefore, we have a departing from a standing, or some of a group taken from a standing.

However, just as in English when a compound word is formed from two or more words, the meaning gets shifted. This could well have happened here in the Greek.

Case in point: Paradigm which we get from the Greek: "paradeigma."
Para: as in paratrooper: a side be side thing, as in parallel.
Digm: to show, or to display as in make visible, a comparison.

Originally, this word meant to bring two ideas up side by side, to compare them. Now, it is defined as: "a philosophical or theoretical framework of any kind..."

It is possible then, that this same kind of transformation happened with "apostasia."

Coop

 

[Biblereader]

Re:

Ah! Vic, it is just not that easy. For example, suppose the verse ended with "forsake."

"And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake."

But, it doesn't end with forsake, therefore, this is why it is JUST THAT EASY.

Don't add to the Holy Bible.