Lets have an open discussion about the "unexplainable" event that happen...

[PrimFinallyFoundGod!]

Hey everyone, I wasn't entirely sure where to put this but I just saw a post about "ghosts" that reminded me of something that happened a few years ago that has haunted me (excuse the pun haha) ever since. I have told people close to me but I feel like they either don't believe me or silently assume its just my mental health.

Well actually I have a few examples Ill just dump them all here why not lets go! :D

So this first memory I was very very young, probably about 5 ish. I didn't have any mental health problems yet its worth noting and I wasnt a cowardly child I wasnt even scared of the dark. It was the morning and I was lying in bed and this older man (over 40 under 60) appeared on the curtain. It was just his face. This will sound weird but its genuinely what happened so bare with me. He said "there's room for me in that bed" I said there wasn't and he laughed at me so I cried I was absolutely terrified. Family came and removed me from the room after that. But I've never forgotten it it's just... well it's odd isn't it? After this happened I tried to see if I recognised the face as a celebrity figure I might of seen and maybe sleepily hallucinated but I have never found that face again.

Second experience I was about 10 and we were packed up ready to move house, I was just relaxing on my bed. And an object (I think it was a ruler) basicaly defies gravity and flung across the room like it'd been thrown. There honestly was nobody there and the object was in the place it landed in afterwards so it wasn't a hallucination.

Finally this one haunts me the most and was the one I was originally going to post about because it was much more intense to me. I was 15 and I'd just had a nap. My depression used to make me so exhausted I'd often nap during the day in addition to 10 hours sleep at night. I was so exhausted I felt like someone was in the room and I did briefly look at first as I was getting into bed, but I was just too exhausted to look and panic. A tall dark smiling figure. Kinda like the grim reaper I guess? I had some sleep paralysis afterwards in that I'd woken up but not properly. My eyes were open. That figure was still stood there in the same place. But there was someone on top of me as well now. A male looking guy literally about an inch from my face. He had this really blank expression and the thing I remember the most is how strange his skin was. He looked like a regular young male human but his skin was REALLY ultra smooth no pores nothing. And all of him was very lit up like glowing.

As crazy and odd as all of this sounds there is unfortunately more. I felt like he was doing something to me. Like "sucking the life out of me" its really weird. During that time I'd fallen down the spiritual/chakras/astralprojection rabbithole on the internet recently before that so I just presumed it was maybe something to do with that because I kept trying to speak to say "stop" my voice was really slurred and it was so difficult but after a few tries I just about said it and everything stopped they were both gone. When I used to watch "accounts" of astral projection they talked about having some sort of short but firm thing to say to the spirits there like stop which is why I thought maybe it was that.

Obviously I'm in a different place now in that I've started finding faith. I haven't really brought these things up in a while with anyone but perhaps people have some theories here? I just feel like people will believe me more. I seriously am telling the truth in totality, I have no reason to lie (and thats a sin).

Dont worry about offending me if you think it was just my mental health everyone is free to share any opinion on it you feel. I know I'll never have a definitive "answer" but I suppose its interesting when people start opening up about "unexplained experiences". I personally have never met a person who hasn't had any even if they are a devout atheist.

Im very curious to read your take on this stuff, so fire away

 

[Hidden In Him]

And bingo...

During that time I'd fallen down the spiritual/chakras/astralprojection rabbithole on the internet recently before that so I just presumed it was maybe something to do with that

Not sure if it's against the rules to link threads here from other forums, but I posted on this subject at my former community because there was a member there trying to start a new "Christian" cult that actually advocated practicing astral projection. I went toe to toe with him over it because it's a form of witchcraft.

Included some videos and other quotes on it from people who were demonically bound from playing around with astral projection, so you might find some of it interesting.

Astral Projection: The Devil's Playground

I never thought Satan would come up with something so insidious as to argue that the apostle Paul actually practiced witchcraft to astral project himself to Third Heaven, but then maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Having done a few internet searches, apparently this argument is now being used by...

www.christianityboard.com

To the mods: If it's against forum rules to post foreign thread links, let me know. I can repost the more pertinent material to here.

God bless,
- H

 

[hawkman]

During that time I'd fallen down the spiritual/chakras/astralprojection rabbithole on the internet recently before that so I just presumed it was maybe something to do with that

Correct , by your participation in the occult and dark arts you invited the spirits in . A lot of people learn this the hard way as you did . I have heard stories of similar tales as yours and when they managed to get out the word Jesus the demonic attack would cease .

 

[PrimFinallyFoundGod!]

And bingo...


Not sure if it's against the rules to link threads here from other forums, but I posted on this subject at my former community because there was member there trying to start a new "Christian" cult that actually advocated practicing astral projection. I went toe to toe with him over it because it's a form of witchcraft.

Included some videos and other quotes on it from people who were demonically bound from playing around with astral projection, so you might find some of it interesting.

Astral Projection: The Devil's Playground

I never thought Satan would come up with something so insidious as to argue that the apostle Paul actually practiced witchcraft to astral project himself to Third Heaven, but then maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Having done a few internet searches, apparently this argument is now being used by...

www.christianityboard.com

To the mods: If it's against forum rules to post foreign thread links, let me know. I can repost the more pertinent material to here.

God bless,
- H

So you think in that particular experience it was a demon trying to appear more appealing while "feeding off my energy"? I must say theres a lot of "coincidences" in that much of what I said directly lines up with some of those people's accounts.

Its also interesting you mention the pentagram being a portal as well because I had a sister living with me who regularly drew them and said she was a "wiccan" after getting close to a self proclaimed "pagan". I also have to shamefully admit drawing them a few times and being curious about the stuff my sister was saying too. I never got deep into that thank goodness but it's scary how I had an experience that sounds like one of your references after just having that curiosity without even getting too deep or serious about it. If this is really what happened that day then I think it just goes to show how dangerous and powerful normalising and spreading satanism/paganism etc to the youth is. Im not sure how much you come across but on social media it's pretty normalised for people around my age (20s) and scarily even younger. At that age they dont possibly know what theyre getting into because now being religious is "controlling" "uncool" and "bullsh" so satanism who they claim is "just" worshipping yourself as a god and doing whatever you want appeals very much to the young and impressionable.

 

[PrimFinallyFoundGod!]

Basically young people now don't see paganism/wicca/astralstuff as "evil" or bad and its really because of the media. I certainly didn't see it as bad, I wouldve never knowingly participated in a "bad" thing like this if I'd of known. I must say I'm worried about what will happen to future generations in regards to religion. In the UK Christianity has finally fallen below 50% and we all know that will be largely older generations of people. Over 35% in UK identify as an atheist

 

[Hidden In Him]

So you think in that particular experience it was a demon trying to appear more appealing while "feeding off my energy"?

Possibly, yeah.

Its also interesting you mention the pentagram being a portal as well because I had a sister living with me who regularly drew them and said she was a "wiccan" after getting close to a self proclaimed "pagan". I also have to shamefully admit drawing them a few times and being curious about the stuff my sister was saying too.

Yes. It's a physical form of invocation. In theory the demon you summon is supposed to stay within the circle and not come out of it unless you give it permission to, but in practice I've read former Satanists say that the demons can actually pretty much do whatever they want if you make the mistake of summoning them. They go along with the charade to make magicians think they have "power" over them, but it's a lie.

It's what Dio was talking about in Invisible, when he said:
If your circle stays unbroken
Then you're a lucky man
'Cause it never, never, never has for me

 

[Hidden In Him]

Basically young people now don't see paganism/wicca/astralstuff as "evil" or bad and its really because of the media. I certainly didn't see it as bad, I wouldve never knowingly participated in a "bad" thing like this if I'd of known. I must say I'm worried about what will happen to future generations in regards to religion. In the UK Christianity has finally fallen below 50% and we all know that will be largely older generations of people. Over 35% in UK identify as an atheist

Not to worry. It would be too much to put down in this thread, but there are prophecies to the effect that a great outpouring of the Holy Spirit will eventually come to the planet again, and when it does entire nations are going to come to Christ in the time of the harvest. But for now, and throughout much of what may be the rest of your time, Christianity is going to slowly decline due (in part anyway) to being vilified by most of mainstream society as being "homophobic" and a "religion of hate" and all that business.

Just something that will need to run its course. Persecution will have to come again before the church in the West finally wakes up anyway, so all things work together for good to those who love God.

 

[for_his_glory]

And bingo...


Not sure if it's against the rules to link threads here from other forums, but I posted on this subject at my former community because there was a member there trying to start a new "Christian" cult that actually advocated practicing astral projection. I went toe to toe with him over it because it's a form of witchcraft.

Included some videos and other quotes on it from people who were demonically bound from playing around with astral projection, so you might find some of it interesting.

Astral Projection: The Devil's Playground

I never thought Satan would come up with something so insidious as to argue that the apostle Paul actually practiced witchcraft to astral project himself to Third Heaven, but then maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Having done a few internet searches, apparently this argument is now being used by...

www.christianityboard.com

To the mods: If it's against forum rules to post foreign thread links, let me know. I can repost the more pertinent material to here.

God bless,
- H

You are good with sharing this as you wrote this, shared your source and there are no copyright infringements.

Good article.

 

[for_his_glory]

The term demon comes from the Greek "daimon". Demons (fallen angels) are also called evil spirits, unclean spirits and devils in scripture as they are disembodied spirits as angels have no form. The use of the terminology of demons, evil spirits, unclean spirits and devils are interchangeable in scripture as they all mean the same thing. They exist in a demonic realm as principalities, Romans 8:38, 39; Ephesians 6:12, and have a heirarchy of rulership controlled by Satan as being his messengers, Matthew 12:22-30; Mark 3:22; Luke 4:35. They have no physical form, but can take on various forms and can viciously posses a body, Matthew 8:16-31; 12:43-45. Demons are numerous in numbering and can also speak like the Legion of unclean spirits in Mark 5:9.

Strong's Concordance: Demon
Part of speech: noun masculine
Transliteration: daimon
Definition: a demon
Usage: evil spirit, demon

 

[PrimFinallyFoundGod!]

Hm if this is what happened this is honestly very scary but I'm glad God didn't give up on me and I finally found the light that'd been under my nose all along.

 

[for_his_glory]

Hm if this is what happened this is honestly very scary but I'm glad God didn't give up on me and I finally found the light that'd been under my nose all along.

1Peter 5:6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
1Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
1Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
1Peter 5:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
1Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
1Peter 5:11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

[Riven]

In the UK Christianity has finally fallen below 50% and we all know that will be largely older generations of people. Over 35% in UK identify as an atheist

I was watching a testimony of a Japanese Christian man on YouTube yesterday. He said only 3% of the population in Japan identifies as Christian.

He said it's normal to expect the gaijin (foreigners) to be Christian. But it is unusual and perhaps even taboo for one of their own to embrace that faith. Or any faith. Most are atheist there.

It's understandable because of the difference in culture. But the UK is western culture. Not all that different from our own here in America. Honestly? I think it's because the British people have had it too good for too long.

I think there is a direct correlation between a strong belief in God and the strength of a nation. At the peak of their power, the British people had an unshakable belief in God. When that started to go in the other direction, so to did the nation.

As for what will happen to the UK with future generations? Well, eventually you'll reach the bottom. Otherwise known as North Korea. Where men of flesh and blood have removed God from society, and have made themselves gods.

They have huge golden statues of themselves there that people must worship everyday. They must worship the same people that are starving them and they're families, or they will be put to death.

When these mortal men who think they are gods stand before their creator to answer for what they've done, what will they say? What excuses will they make?

Just imagine the turn around, the compete 180, that would occur if the North Koreans were allowed to accept Christ as their saviour and the entire nation became Christian. It would be unrecognizable in just a few years.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I was watching a testimony of a Japanese Christian man on YouTube yesterday. He said only 3% of the population in Japan identifies as Christian.

He said it's normal to expect the gaijin (foreigners) to be Christian. But it is unusual and perhaps even taboo for one of their own to embrace that faith. Or any faith. Most are atheist there.

One of my aunts mentioned this one time. She said she travelled to Japan when she was younger, and noticed how strange it was that no one was going to church on Sunday because there were no churches anywhere. It was surreal to her.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

My guess is all of that is demonic. My suggestion is to repent of the occultic activity and ask forgiveness renouncing it. You might need someone powerful to rebuke the enemy for you as you’ve let him in.

 

[jaybo]

Correct , by your participation in the occult and dark arts you invited the spirits in . A lot of people learn this the hard way as you did . I have heard stories of similar tales as yours and when they managed to get out the word Jesus the demonic attack would cease .

She was a child in the first instances -- 5 and 10 --, so the events happened to her before she knew anything about the occult.

 

[PrimFinallyFoundGod!]

I'll probably never know what happened when I was a kid. It wasn't just the two examples there were stranger things that would happen like dolls moving, the bed shaking, feeling watched etc..very distressing memories. Hopefully it was just in my head but I don't suppose I'll ever know that. I have a new mental health assessment Monday (the goal is therapy) and on Thursday I meet up with a priest to have a general chat about my interest in faith. I should mention as a teenager and as an adult I do actually hallucinate now irregularly so it's definitely possible I couldve been hallucinating as a kid. I guess I just don't want to entertain that because it means I mustve been born psychotic which means I can't fix the problems I'm having now as an adult. I like to think I've become psychotic as a result of abuse trauma and that I can be cured and move on with my life.

I like to think God will protect me from anything unholy now. For anything mental I'll continue to pray for strength and I'll keep trying to access therapy.

They're just distressing memories thats all. It's difficult when you know you've had experiences like that and society would assume you're lying to make your life sound more interesting.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I like to think God will protect me from anything unholy now. For anything mental I'll continue to pray for strength and I'll keep trying to access therapy.

I actually come from a pretty long line of crazy on my mother's side, and had to struggle with it a bit. But I refused to get on meds, and I think I'm the only one on that side of the family that isn't taking something.

But the closer I get to God the more balanced and sound of mind I become. I know of others where this has been the case as well. He just continues to place more and more joy in your life, and give you increasing purpose and fulfillment, to the place where the psychosis keeps effecting you less and less. It's my personal theory that once you reach the place of fully and continually abiding in Christ in your daily routine, all the symptoms eventually disappear, as you are finally walking in the mind of Christ and manifesting the fruit of the Spirit continually, thinking purely and only the thoughts of God.

Harder to do than say, of course - those are big words - but it seems to be the direction my life has taken, so I have every reason to believe it.

 

[PrimFinallyFoundGod!]

I actually come from a pretty long line of crazy on my mother's side, and had to struggle with it a bit. But I refused to get on meds, and I think I'm the only one on that side of the family that isn't taking something.

But the closer I get to God the more balanced and sound of mind I become. I know of others where this has been the case as well. He just continues to place more and more joy in your life, and give you increasing purpose and fulfillment, to the place where the psychosis keeps effecting you less and less. It's my personal theory that once you reach the place of fully and continually abiding in Christ in your daily routine, all the symptoms eventually disappear, as you are finally walking in the mind of Christ and manifesting the fruit of the Spirit, thinking purely and only the thoughts of God.

Harder to do than say, of course - those are big words - but it seems to be the direction my life has taken, so I have every reason to believe it.

No I appreciate you sharing your experience with me. It's nice to not be alone as well I suppose. I take max dose sertraline for my depression. It does help and I'd rather not go off it because everytime I do I self harm and the last time I was in hospital for an OD they put me on the resuscitation ward because I was a real risk for heart attack based on my symptoms and what I took. It was terrifying and I really dont want to hurt myself anymore. But I don't want to be on sertraline for life I can wean off of it when Ive had therapy and grown in faith.

I've avoided medical help because Im worried they'll "catch" the psychosis but I think they're going to because the nurse I saw last spotted it and confirmed what Ive been avoiding happening haha.. but I said this to my partner. I want to avoid an offical diagnosis on my record because Im afraid of repercussions in the work place. But if I ever get so ill Im a danger to myself or others, or I blur the line between reality and delusion he has full permission to make me go through with treatment. But as long as Im mostly functional I'd prefer to keep it a secret, not have it put on paper and address my traumas and depression with the therapist.

I really struggle to accept the fact my family did the things they did and have the opinions of me they do. But I need to because in the past I've put myself back in the situation hoping things will change only to be abused again.

I think these traumas are central to my non psychosis struggles at least, because their abusive views of me and treatment is instinctual to me in how I see myself and that often leads to me spiralling into depression. My meds seem to halt that process by stopping me ruminating memories of abuse.

When I have an acute crisis mentally in response to a stressful situation I have had issues with an opiate but since I began exploring faith Ive been clean and I look to God to help me with that and with my eating disorder urges. So far in that regard I definitely relate in that these urges seem to be barely there at all.

 

[Hidden In Him]

No I appreciate you sharing your experience with me. It's nice to not be alone as well I suppose. I take max dose sertraline for my depression. It does help and I'd rather not go off it

Yes, don't go off it unless and until you feel the Lord specifically leading you to. And if you do, be prepared to potentially endure the effects of some withdrawals.

but I said this to my partner. I want to avoid an offical diagnosis on my record because Im afraid of repercussions in the work place.

Well, better than walking in fear, put the matter in God's hands in prayer, not once but as often as you think about it, trusting Him that He will take care of you. Fears can cloud your mind with the wrong kind of thinking.

I really struggle to accept the fact my family did the things they did and have the opinions of me they do. But I need to because in the past I've put myself back in the situation hoping things will change only to be abused again.

Very common, but a common mistake. There is much in scripture about not making yourself a "slave to man," but reserving yourself to be a servant to the Lord only. You should maintain a distance from them until you master interacting with them in ways that bring them closer to God, not bring you back under emotional and psychological bondage to the enemy.

 

[Anaphora]

Good documentation by everyone. Leviticus 19:31. .familiar spirits, PYTHON = the devil. God warns people to stay away from wizards, mediums, .God will cut off anyone who messes with the Occult. Wicca is form of witchcraft. Bad news. Their is repentance for sins and forgiveness by God. It must be sincere !, No one can con God. Next, person must convert to christianity and conform to God's standard. If you dont study the bible, your leavening your self open to unclean spirit to enter. Deuteronomy 18:11. Or a charmer, or a CONSULTER with familiar spirits, or a wizard or a NECROMANVER. Back in the 1990s, before I converted to christianity. A heathen former friend, told me of a ouija board, he and friends played with. According to him, something real bad happened, and scared the crap out of them. I pressed him for details and he refused to talk about it. He swore he would never mess with ouija boards again. Messing with the occult, they're summoning evil spirits. In samuel chapter 28, a woman was medium. She consulted with evil spirits. King saul sought the witch of endor. God cut these people off. You can't mess around with the occult. Luke 11:24. When unclean spirit is gone out of man, he walks through dry places, seeking rest ; finding none, he says, I will return unto my house whence I came out. 11:25. When he comes, he finds it swept and garnished. Jesus goes on to say, he brings other spirits and hes worse off than before. You must study the bible. Fill your mind with God's word. Traditions of men is swept and garnished. Its sound doctrine. Or evil spirits will be invited in. Get the picture. In 2004, a former girlfriend, she left message on answering machine. It was vulgar and pure hatred. For 5 minutes she ranted st me. Halfway through this, her voice changed to Masculine Voice. This is demonic possession. Her life is destroyed. She won't repent and hates Christian people. She hates God. Learn from this, and move on. Peace.