Leviticus dilema for Christians.

[Hitch]

Are you alone in your sins?

What difference would that make ?

There are other legitimate ways to see others and ourselves when it comes to 'sin' in any form.

Meaningless

Is everything 'you' do of faith? Anything not of faith is also sin.

And a rolling stone gathers no moss , so what ?

Measure cautiously. The line one stretches upon others is the one used on you. If I expect mercy and forgiveness it might seem to be a good thing to observe to measure to others.

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

It was the wicked servant who beat the other slaves.

see above

s

Is the 'homo' God's enemy?

 

[smaller]

Is the 'homo' God's enemy?

Is the devil Gods enemy?

When you read the laws against adultery you never ever ever have a sinful thought of course. And if you do it certainly is not a sin in your mind.

s

 

[jasoncran]

smaller when i was going to into the homosexual lifestyle slowly. i began to hate god. if i didnt repent i would die in my sin.

all sinners are the enemies of god if they dont repent.

that is plain and clear scripture. hitch is in now wise saying that they shouldnt recieve mercy, just that like all sins its a sin that god will judge.

we are the children of wrath if we dont repent.
storing that wrath till we repent. that isnt pc but its the truth.

i am worthy of death, but god spared me when i repented.

 

[Hitch]

And so much for examples of honest answers for yourself. I never expect that from believers for the most part.

Funny huh?

My how judgmental of you


For context;

Originally Posted by smaller
So, homo bashing front and center then? Oh, and let us heap upon ourselves total forgiveness of ALL of OUR SINS?

I try to remember the conditions of blinded in sin slaves SUCH AS MYSELF prior to belief. They are BOUND by FORCES SINFUL which are DEMONIC in nature. And NONE of them has one single clue that this is their scriptural condition. IN fact even in the churches believers DON'T want to view their own sins, yet alone connect them to THE DEVIL! This just doesn't happen in Church. It doesn't.

Do I look upon those people then with only ONE EYE? No. I understand their condition and I don't see ONLY THEM. I also see 'the other force' at work in them, and I AM NOT EXEMPT from that working either. Neither are you. I am not interested in coverups and deceiving myself about the facts of sin and evil present 'personally.' Those who think they stand should perhaps take more heed, lest they too fall when pronouncing dire judgments upon the sins of others. It is after all MORE than just the slave here my friend. You have a MORE REAL adversary to strain against in THEM and IN YOU.

I will maintain that it is ENTIRELY possible and practical to LOVE the SINNER and HATE and properly JUDGE the sin, and more importantly WHERE it originates from. It is NOT from the SLAVE but the SLAVEMASTER. That would be the DEVIL.

Is the homo then my enemy? Certainly NOT. I have a greater obligation. I know who the enemy is.

My question is taken from the last line, using smaller's choice of words;


Is the homo then my enemy?

altered to read;

Is the homo God's enemy?

For reasons unknown to me so far smaller has declined to answer .

 

[smaller]

What difference would that make ?

It might seem to some that there is more than just 'the person' involved. The tempter operates in everyone. Whether they acknowledge it or not (read NOT for most believers) or even know it (the slave of sin) would seem to be an appropriate question regarding anyones sins.

Why would you overlook thee vital component?

Meaningless And a rolling stone gathers no moss , so what ?

Ah, meaning you are always justified but the blinded by the devil homo not so much.

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. see above Is the 'homo' God's enemy?

We are all slaves of the enemy of God when we sin in thought, word or deed, which we ALL do.

If you feel that leads you to sit in the eternal judgment seat to the homo, knock yerself out. I might expect a person would get a taste of their own hypocrisy soon enough.

s

 

[smaller]

My how judgmental of you .

I would judge the sin of any person as 'of the devil' you included.

Does that require me to judge you?

Nope.

s

 

[Hitch]

It might seem to some that there is more than just 'the person' involved. The tempter operates in everyone. Whether they acknowledge it or not (read NOT for most believers) or even know it (the slave of sin) would seem to be an appropriate question regarding anyones sins.

Why would you overlook thee vital component?



Ah, meaning you are always justified but the blinded by the devil homo not so much.



We are all slaves of the enemy of God when we sin in thought, word or deed, which we ALL do.

If you feel that leads you to sit in the eternal judgment seat to the homo, knock yerself out. I might expect a person would get a taste of their own hypocrisy soon enough.

s

Why so afraid smaller? Its a simple question ;

Is the homo God's enemy?

 

[smaller]

smaller when i was going to into the homosexual lifestyle slowly. i began to hate god. if i didnt repent i would die in my sin.

all sinners are the enemies of god if they dont repent.

that is plain and clear scripture. hitch is in now wise saying that they shouldnt recieve mercy, just that like all sins its a sin that god will judge.

we are the children of wrath if we dont repent.
storing that wrath till we repent. that isnt pc but its the truth.

i am worthy of death, but god spared me when i repented.

If any of your claims mean you (or any other poster at this board) are now sinless or your sin in thought, word or deed is less than the homo's I would beg to differ on many counts.

I might even view believers who trumpet the stomping of sins slaves have become even greater slaves themselves when they ignore their own condition.

Grace leads us to live better lives. To not be 'captured' by our enemy.

Grace didn't make any of us sinless.

s

 

[Hitch]

Looks like theres a lot of hate in a smaller package.

 

[jasoncran]

sorry that isnt what the bible says.

i lived this very sin briefly, and i did fully aware of that it was sin.

i felt clearly god wanting me to repent, the devil and the flesh wanting me to be with that man.


the choice was man to whom i would serve. the bible via the hs set me free.

if we are enemies of god when we sin each time like that and die, then theres no grace at all. we wont die sinless, we must confess the lord so that HE will confuss us to the father on that day of judgment.

perfection isnt required but that act of repentance is.
funny that you say that. you are a eternal security type and i am not.

 

[smaller]

Why so afraid smaller? Its a simple question ;

Is the homo God's enemy?

Anyone who sins in thought, word or deed does so of the devil.

You on the other hand only see the slave, and ask me if the slave is the enemy? Idiotic question. The fact is that most 'believes' defer hard questions about this matter away from themselves and particularly when 'their sins' are linked to SATAN. Noooo. Not me sayeth Hitch.

I like my exchanges to be honest and truthful about this particular subject, not one sided, blind and biased. Addressing one sided blind and biased questions is fruitless.

'All' sin in thought, word and deed. The outside of Pharisees cups don't fool me one bit.

Why would the homo be any worse the sinner or any more the enemy than you?

Are you Gods enemy?

s

 

[smaller]

Looks like theres a lot of hate in a smaller package.

yeah, requesting honest answers is quickly spun another way by spiders webs.

 

[Hitch]

sorry that isnt what the bible says.

i lived this very sin briefly, and i did fully aware of that it was sin.

i felt clearly god wanting me to repent, the devil and the flesh wanting me to be with that man.


the choice was man to whom i would serve. the bible via the hs set me free.

if we are enemies of god when we sin each time like that and die, then theres no grace at all. we wont die sinless, we must confess the lord so that HE will confuss us to the father on that day of judgment.

perfection isnt required but that act of repentance is.
funny that you say that. you are a eternal security type and i am not.

Isnt it a main point of the Law that it was designed as a means by which sinful men could and should deal with sinful men?

 

[smaller]

sorry that isnt what the bible says.

i lived this very sin briefly, and i did fully aware of that it was sin.

i felt clearly god wanting me to repent, the devil and the flesh wanting me to be with that man.


the choice was man to whom i would serve. the bible via the hs set me free.

if we are enemies of god when we sin each time like that and die, then theres no grace at all. we wont die sinless, we must confess the lord so that HE will confuss us to the father on that day of judgment.

perfection isnt required but that act of repentance is.
funny that you say that. you are a eternal security type and i am not.

Well jason, I'm certainly glad for you. Now go beat up the other homo's and condemn them all. And no, lets just forget about any other types of sin that one might still have.

Isn't that what God demands you do? Ignore your 'remaining sins' and condemn homo's?

s

 

[Hitch]

yeah, requesting honest answers is quickly spun another way by spiders webs.

:toofunny Says the smaller one steadfastly refusing to asnwer;


Is the homo God's enemy?:toofunny

 

[smaller]

Isnt it a main point of the Law that it was designed as a means by which sinful men could and should deal with sinful men?

Yes, those Laws were given to heterosexual believing men so they could homo bash and ignore their adulterous thoughts.

uh huh uh huh

Some believers are just weird.

s

 

[Hitch]

Well jason, I'm certainly glad for you. Now go beat up the other homo's and condemn them all. And no, lets just forget about any other types of sin that one might still have.

Isn't that what God demands you do? Ignore your 'remaining sins' and condemn homo's?

s

I have not read all the posts but it is your and your alone that I have seen that include any mention ,allusion or suggestion wrt 'homo bashing' *


* smaller's term

 

[Hitch]

Yes, those Laws were given to heterosexual believing men so they could homo bash and ignore their adulterous thoughts.

uh huh uh huh

Some believers are just weird.

s

Meaningless, but that is your way.:waving

Do you really think any one will buy that you're not passing judgment?

There is a sucker born every minute as the saying goes...

 

[smaller]

:toofunny Says the smaller one steadfastly refusing to asnwer;


Is the homo God's enemy?:toofunny

No more so than any sinner Hitch. Got any?

 

[smaller]

Meaningless, but that is your way.:waving

Well you better get some homo bashing in then Hitch! I'm sure God will be proud of you.