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Limits to what the Blood cleanses

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The blood of JESUS cleanses us from all sin except the sin we refuse to confess, someone wrote.

1. How about the sin you probably don't remember?
2. I usually pray: '...from all my sin' and I dont mention all when I know I may not be able to remember what wrong I did last
3. The preacher's statement seems to suggest that the blood does partial cleasing, thus: sin confessed (cleansed) vs sin not confessed.
4. Yet the preacher seems to be correct. There is a verse in the OT that kinda talks about this, that when you become aware of that sin (when you sinned unintentionally), and confess it, you'd be forgiven
 
There is a verse in the OT that kinda talks about this, that when you become aware of that sin (when you sinned unintentionally), and confess it, you'd be forgiven
27 'Now if anyone * of the common people sins unintentionally in doing any of the things which the LORD has commanded not to be done, and becomes guilty,
28 if his sin which he has committed is made known to him, then he shall bring for his offering a goat, a female without defect, for his sin which he has committed.
(Leviticus 4:27-28 NASB)
 
The blood of JESUS cleanses us from all sin except the sin we refuse to confess, someone wrote.

1. How about the sin you probably don't remember?
2. I usually pray: '...from all my sin' and I dont mention all when I know I may not be able to remember what wrong I did last
3. The preacher's statement seems to suggest that the blood does partial cleasing, thus: sin confessed (cleansed) vs sin not confessed.
4. Yet the preacher seems to be correct. There is a verse in the OT that kinda talks about this, that when you become aware of that sin (when you sinned unintentionally), and confess it, you'd be forgiven
Notice that the scripture that Jethro Bodine posted says IF they remember. It never says that one will not be forgiven for a sin they don't remember.
Once a year, The day of atonement, the High Priest entered the Holy of Holies behind the veil, to offer a blood offering to the Lord for the sin of all the nation for unintentional and forgotten sins.
The true High Priest, the Messiah, has entered the Holy of Holies behind the veil and offered His own blood for the forgiveness of His people. For those who lived before His cross and after His cross.
 
When we came to Christ we confessed all sins, agreeing with God we are sinners before a righteous God. That is repentance. When we're saved, we're always covered.
 
When we came to Christ we confessed all sins, agreeing with God we are sinners before a righteous God. That is repentance. When we're saved, we're always covered.

I think this is pretty spot on here. The only catch I could think of, would be if someone is hiding a sin within their heart. I *think* this could be done either consciously or sub-consciously. Perhaps on ongoing sin which they really like so rationalize it to continue.

For example, eating. Not a sin in and of itself, but can be a sin if one goes too far and steps into gluttony. One first rationalizes it (well I have to eat to live...), but then at times of prayer (or whenever) the Holy Spirit may convict us of this so deep down we know it's sin so bury it in our heart, outside of conscious mind perhaps.

But the Lord looks at the heart. He sees the intention of the heart. If something is there besides Christ Himself...He sees it as a heart that has not been submissive to Him. We have to give our whole heart to Him 100% and let it go. Otherwise it is unforgiven sin I am pretty sure and puts one on dangerous ground.

Conversely, if one does have a suppressed old sin that they did not confess specifically, but the intent of their heart is a state of repentance and submission to God, then God sees that too, so you would be forgiven without question.
 
5 This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. 1 John 1:5-10 NKJV

God is telling us that He only operates in the light. You must confess your sins that He reveals to you (This Activates The Cross To Deal With Sin). (Bonus) And He will be faithful to cleanse us from all other sins that you do not know about (The Blood Of Jesus Cleanse Us, Heals Us, Deliver Us, And So Much More!). Failure to do so, you are in darkness and you are a liar. You have know fellowship with Him.
 
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The Blood washes away all sin. When we get born again it is not about speaking every sin we ever did.
Now down the road within our Christian walk we would be fools if we did not use 1John1:9 every day.
Now then when we walk with God and are truly seeking Him and fellowshipping with Him if we have UN-repentitive sin in our hearts God will deal with it and get it to be no more.
 
Where there is no Law there is no Sin.
Romans 10:4.
The fact is, the blood from the Cross that paid for the sins of the world, bled out 2000 years ago.
Its still reaching into the future, covering you today and tomorrow, forever.
If it didnt, you'd die and go to hell after you were saved.
The reason it does this, is because its God's blood, which has the power to reach into the future, to pardon continually.
Which is what it did when it forgave you.
So, the idea that your Sins are covered as long as you confess them, is denying the >finished< work of the Cross.
And if you actually think you have to confess all your sins, continually, then you have not understood Grace or the fact that
Jesus is the "end of the law" > for Salvation.
And here is something else you might consider...
The day you were saved, the very moment,.... God knew all the sins you would commit later.....and he saved you anyway, and not because you actually think you can remember all the sins you'll ever commit and try to confess them all, when this is impossible.
Did you forget that you are ...>MADE< the Righteousness of Christ""?.......and that is NOW AND FOREVER, and you dont have anything to do with it.
Its a gift.
Its DONE.
 
we have a advocate My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; 1 John 2:1 get out of the old testament we live under grace which is NOT A LICENSE OR EXCUSE to sin... we will know if we sin the holy spirit will tell us :readbible:amen
 
The fact is, the blood from the Cross that paid for the sins of the world, bled out 2000 years ago.
Its still reaching into the future, covering you today and tomorrow, forever.
If it didnt, you'd die and go to hell after you were saved.
The reason it does this, is because its God's blood, which has the power to reach into the future, to pardon continually.
Which is what it did when it forgave you.
So, the idea that your Sins are covered as long as you confess them, is denying the >finished< work of the Cross.
This is what it means to be continually covered by Jesus' ministry and sacrifice:

23 The former priests, on the one hand, existed * in greater numbers because they were prevented by death from continuing, 24 but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently. 25 Therefore He is able also to save forever * those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. (Hebrews 7:23-25 NASB)

The reason we are pardoned continually is not because his sacrifice and ministry reaches into the future ahead of time for us. The reason we are pardoned continually is because he always lives to make intercession for us.

The Levitical priests died and their ministries ended. And the Mosaic offerings were consumed and no longer available to do their work. But not so with Christ. His ministry and offering never cease, therefore, they make continual intercession for us.


And if you actually think you have to confess all your sins, continually, then you have not understood Grace or the fact that Jesus is the "end of the law" > for Salvation.
Salvation has always been through blood sacrifice. It's just that under the law those sacrifices could not make a person perfect because they were consumed and could not continue on behalf of the sinner, and the Priest officiating that intercession was either corrupt, or eventually died. And the Mosaic sacrifices did not solicit the indwelling Spirit.

The Israelites are the one's who turned the law into a performance based way to be saved. That is what Paul is referring to when he speaks of the end of the law--the end of the law as a way to EARN righteousness (and therefore, salvation and peace with God). But the law was in fact the commanded way a person reconciled himself to God (insomuch as the law could do that), just not as a set of rules that earned you salvation as the Isrealites erroneously made it (Romans 9:32 NASB).


And here is something else you might consider...
The day you were saved, the very moment,.... God knew all the sins you would commit later.....and he saved you anyway, and not because you actually think you can remember all the sins you'll ever commit and try to confess them all, when this is impossible.
Did you forget that you are ...>MADE< the Righteousness of Christ""?.......and that is NOW AND FOREVER, and you dont have anything to do with it.
Its a gift.
Its DONE.
What do you mean we had nothing to do with it?
We BELIEVED, via the power of faith God gave us. Not everybody does that. Most reject the gift of faith and choose to NOT believe (1 John 5:10 NASB).
There is no danger is saying we have to believe to be saved. Faith is not one of the works that Paul says can not justify. Quite the opposite. But for some reason in the Protestant church, trust in God got moved over and included with the works that can not earn salvation so that if you say you have to have faith to be saved you're guilty of trying to earn your own salvation. And to keep the ministry and sacrifice of Jesus, which is always in heaven before the Father working on behalf of those who believe, you have to continue to believe that it is doing that for you. So we do indeed have something to do with it. Just not through the merit of doing righteous works of the law to earn it. The church got terribly confused about all this somewhere in history.
 
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The only sin the blood of Christ can not ultimately cleanse for the church is the sin of walking away from the continual ministry and sacrifice of Christ always before the Father in the heavenly tabernacle making intercession for us. You can not have the benefit of an ongoing Priestly intercession that you no longer trust in to do that for you.
 
The only sin the blood of Christ can not ultimately cleanse for the church is the sin of walking away from the continual ministry and sacrifice of Christ always before the Father in the heavenly tabernacle making intercession for us. You can not have the benefit of an ongoing Priestly intercession that you no longer trust in to do that for you.

I think that once a person comes to understand that being "born again" is not a situation you can undo by behavior, and instead simply realize that a BIRTH cant be undone by a SIN,... once a person gets this revelation > then a lot of confusion will cease in a lot of minds regarding arguing about how to lose salvation, (which is impossible).
 
I think that once a person comes to understand that being "born again" is not a situation you can undo by behavior, and instead simply realize that a BIRTH cant be undone by a SIN,... once a person gets this revelation > then a lot of confusion will cease in a lot of minds regarding arguing about how to lose salvation, (which is impossible).
Oh, don't misunderstand. I'm not suggesting a person can work their way out of salvation as if their work is the condition for their salvation. I'm saying a person can 'unbelieve' themselves out of the salvation they have received, effectively putting an end to the continuing ministry of Christ in the heavenly tabernacle on their behalf put into effect and sustained by a person's faith in that ministry.

I know this is tough to grasp because we have been so conditioned to hear that argument as an argument for works being the procurer of justification/ salvation. But it is hardly that. It's an argument for faith, not works. Faith is NOT one of the things that Paul said can not justify on the basis of it being a work. He clearly contrasted the works gospel with the gospel of faith for the forgiveness of sins. My argument is one for the condition of faith for the forgiveness and salvation of God, not the condition of works
 
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The only limitation (I am aware of) that the blood of Christ does not cleanse is the sin of unbelief (conscious or otherwise).

John 3:16–18 (AV)
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 
The only limitation (I am aware of) that the blood of Christ does not cleanse is the sin of unbelief (conscious or otherwise).
I don't believe that one can unconsciously reject the Lord. And one must reject His sacrifice in order to not be saved. Anymore than one can unconsciously receive the Lord.

Heb 10:26 For we--wilfully sinning after the receiving the full knowledge of the truth--no more for sins doth there remain a sacrifice,
Heb 10:29 of how much sorer punishment shall he be counted worthy who the Son of God did trample on, and the blood of the covenant did count a common thing, in which he was sanctified, and to the Spirit of the grace did despite?
 
Hebrews 10 (AV)
1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21And having an high priest over the house of God;
22Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
33Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
34For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
35Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
36For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
37For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
38Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

The whole chapter is written to the Jews about not relying upon the Old Covenant / reverting back to it. To do so willfully is to try to be saved by another means than the salvation of Jesus Christ. John 14:6 (among others like Acts 4:12) tells us there is no other way to be saved. There remains therefore no other sacrifice for sins (other than the blood of Christ). None.
 
It's simply a matter of context (local and / or overall Bible context). Along with passages like Hebrews 10:26 and Hebrews 6:4 you must consider:

1 John 2:1 (AV)
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Either this is saying there are those who never sinned (original sin) which the previous chapter says is calling God a liar... or this is saying that once you are saved if you sin we have an advocate with the Father Jesus Christ the righteous! Amen!

Chapter 1 spells out that confessing our sins is how we get back into fellowship with God and one another and that the blood of Jesus (in the Greek) keeps on cleansing us. And the entire passage was written to believers!!!

1 John 2:12–14 (AV)
12I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake.
13I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
14I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

Be VERY careful not to bring an interpolation of Hebrews 10:26 bringing the Old Covenant into the New Covenant (the very thing Hebrews 10 militates against)!
 
To do so willfully is to try to be saved by another means than the salvation of Jesus Christ. John 14:6 (among others like Acts 4:12) tells us there is no other way to be saved. There remains therefore no other sacrifice for sins (other than the blood of Christ). None.
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Chapter 1 spells out that confessing our sins is how we get back into fellowship with God and one another and that the blood of Jesus (in the Greek) keeps on cleansing us. And the entire passage was written to believers!!!
1Jn 1:10 if we may say--`we have not sinned,' a liar we make Him, and His word is not in us.

The very definition of a Believer is one who Has admitted they have sinned against God and have repented.
If they have not they are Not a believer, "His word is NOT in us".
So to say this passage was written to believers is a contradiction of who a believer is. John is clearly saying these people who have Not admitted they have sinned against God, are NOT believers. Although they claimed to be, they were not. So who were they?
1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

1Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.


Whoever it was, did not have fellowship with the apostles, therefore, they could NOT have been believers.

"Our hands have handled" odd statement. Where do we see this but with Thomas when he didn't believe the Jesus was in the flesh. He thought he was a spirit?
 
1Jn 1:10 if we may say--`we have not sinned,' a liar we make Him, and His word is not in us.

The very definition of a Believer is one who Has admitted they have sinned against God and have repented.
If they have not they are Not a believer, "His word is NOT in us".
So to say this passage was written to believers is a contradiction of who a believer is. John is clearly saying these people who have Not admitted they have sinned against God, are NOT believers. Although they claimed to be, they were not. So who were they?
1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.


Whoever it was, did not have fellowship with the apostles, therefore, they could NOT have been believers.

But the mere mention of it is in rabbinic irony making the point that we are sinners.
 
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