Little horn or false alarm?

[Themessengeroftruth]

Dear Themessengeroftruth, you seem to start a time-frame of events such as the rise of the little horn at the beginning of the second three and one-half years of tribulation, and then completely separate from that to a future time of the last trump at the end of the millennium.

As children of our Father, we need not be in darkness as to our destination which is our standing in Christ, we know that we which remain alive until Jesus’ coming for us shall be caught up; not killed (1 Thes 4:17), and that those that went before shall rise first (1 Thes 4:16).

What are we to watch for? Not the beast; we’ll be gone, but for lukewarmness in our walk. If you will go directly to the judgment of the church written in Rev Chapters Two & Three for the present tense viewpoint, you will discover the degeneration applied such as we read in Heb 10:25 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works of Heb 10:24. Rev 4:1 begins the viewpoint of importance to the future as we read: I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

John 6:29 This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Now what to do? "Add to your faith virtue, knowledge, temperance, patience, godliness, brotherly kindness and charity." To realize this growth in our lives, we must learn to begin counting our old man dead. (Romans 6:6) "Knowing this, that our old man (The Adamic nature) is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.” (Ephesians 4:22).

My thoughts.

Eugene u believe the people the people will be caught up and I believe the people will be killed. U cam show me scriptures to prove your doctrine and so can I
All that will come about this is a debate that leads to strife.

So here is how we solve and here is what I'm gonna say.

Do not be alarmed or surprised if you was not caught up during the first seven year doctrine u and many others believe.

Do not be shocked when a time comes when I are forced to worship another god or take a mark for baghdadi behalf and be killed if u do not

Don't be alarmed for I tell u many others are gone be in the same situation and no one has been caught up yet when u begin to see the mark of the beast.

And now this what ever mark is issued for baghdadis that mark is the mark of the beast

Now if u don't see it or baghdadi is killed or something else happens then u know my doctrine was wrong and it was a mis interpretation of the scriptures and I spoken presumptuously

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

Themessengeroftruth

"Chapter 11
The angel Gabriel, in this chapter, performs his promise made to Daniel in the foregoing chapter, that he would "show him what should befal his people in the latter days," according to that which was "written in the scriptures of truth:" very particularly does he here foretel the succession of the kings of Persia and Grecia, and the affairs of their kingdoms, especially the mischief which Antiochus Epiphanes did in his time to the church, which was foretold before (ch. 8:11–12). Here is, I. A brief prediction of the setting up of the Grecian monarchy upon the ruins of the Persian monarchy, which was now newly begun (v. 1-4). II. A prediction of the affairs of the two kingdoms of Egypt and Syria, with reference to each other (v. 5–20). III. Of the rise of Antiochus Epiphanes, and his actions and successes (v. 21–29). IV. Of the great mischief that he should do to the Jewish nation and religion, and his contempt of all religion (v. 30–39). V. Of his fall and ruin at last, when he is in the heat of his pursuit (v. 40–45).......
Of the kings that came after Antiochus nothing is here prophesied, for that was the most malicious mischievous enemy to the church, that was a type of the son of perdition, whom the Lord shall consume with the breath of his mouth and destroy with the brightness of his coming, and none shall help him."
http://biblehub.com/commentaries/mhcw/daniel/11.htm

This is all history. History that can be verified by historical writings outside the Bible.
In my opinion, when Christians fail to acknowledge this prophecy as history that is verifiable to the secular world we damage the wonder of this prophecy from God given to Daniel and then fulfilled for all the world to see. We muddy the waters, the waters of the living Word of God.

Daniel 11 is a time frame from the Greco Persian war to the very last king before the great day of The Lord.

Now as I told Eugene we all have our beliefs and we all have a doctrine we hold dear but here is what I say to u all. When u see the things told to u beginning to happen do not be harden but know that the levan which many of u believe was not the true levan concerning the last days

And not in pride or puffy ness I mind I tell u these things. I tell u these things with all lowly ness and boldness of speech. For I know in my heart that these things will come to pass their fore I have confidence to tell u all if it don't happen I was wrong and so forth for I know it's not possible for the scriptures to fail and I know that what I'm telling u all is happening now and will happening in the days to come.

So like I said when u see it then know and understand it was The Lord god who told this poor man all these things.

As for me I am no great man neither am I anything special I'm just a man but when u see it happen just do not take the sign for any mark that was issued for baghdadi sake whereby a man is killed if he does not take it that is the mark of the beast and u know the doctrine which u ate was not the right bread u was feed

 

[Eugene]

Dear @Messengeroftruth, I cannot say I am sorry I do not believe the prophesy you give forth, but until the word of God says Baghdadi is the little horn known as the beast, he lives on some street at the house of a certain person, and Themessengerof truth knows the date, and hour I’ll pass. Do you have these?

Do you in fact have any denominational church that preaches these things?

An example of prophesy.
Act 9:10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.
Act 9:11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
Act 9:12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

Dear @Messengeroftruth, I cannot say I am sorry I do not believe the prophesy you give forth, but until the word of God says Baghdadi is the little horn known as the beast, he lives on some street at the house of a certain person, and Themessengerof truth knows the date, and hour I’ll pass. Do you have these?

Do you in fact have any denominational church that preaches these things?

An example of prophesy.
Act 9:10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.
Act 9:11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
Act 9:12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

Well your blood be upon your own head

I just hope with all sincerity that when u begin to see the prophecies unfold your heart will be changed and u will believe

For I can't tell u the date and hour for god did not tell me that

All I can tell u is what I heard from the father
I can't make u believe that is not mines to give

Just hope when u see the prophecy unfold u will believe and even all of u who I've spoken to before

 

[Eugene]

I just hope with all sincerity that when u begin to see the prophecies unfold your heart will be changed and u will believe

I reckon there is another difference we have. My believing a certain prophesy not written in scripture has nothing to do with my faith in Whom I've believed.

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

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I reckon there is another difference we have. My believing a certain prophesy not written in scripture has nothing to do with my faith in Whom I've believed.

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

A man is saved by grace through faith as it is written and never the less faith comes by hearing and hearing of the word of The Lord.

If you say u have faith then u know your faith is not proved by your lips but by your works. For it was not your faith that saved u but if u are of faith it was gods grace who gave u his faith ..

But if u say u have faith then I will show u I have faith by my works because faith with out works is dead

A Shepard calls to his sheep and his sheep hears him.
If god is your lord and Jesus your Shepard and u are indeed his flock then u would watch for his coming.

Whether u believe the prophecy or not right now I can't say if u are or u are not his sheep but when it comes to pass and if u do take his sign then for a surety I tell u u was never apart of the flock

But nether the less let your works prove your faith to all men not to me for who am I but a servant? And one that is lowest of them. Nether the less I tell u, god will separate the wheat from the tares and he will expose the wolve hiding in the sheeps skin and he will exalt the flock but first they will be cast down to the ground.

In short all I'm saying is just do gods commandments and watch for his coming and tho u may not believe now watch and see if the words told to u come to pass for when u do see them just don't take the mark of the beast

 

[Obadiah]

...Now if u don't see it or baghdadi is killed or something else happens then u know my doctrine was wrong and it was a mis interpretation of the scriptures and I spoken presumptuously

You are prophesying something new that is not in scripture, not stating "doctrine". If you turn out to be wrong, what does scripture say we should do to you? (That's a rhetorical question, by the way.) If you turn out to be wrong, will you submit to our doing to you what scripture commands be done to a false prophet?

 

[Sinthesis]

You are prophesying something new that is not in scripture, not stating "doctrine". If you turn out to be wrong, what does scripture say we should do to you? (That's a rhetorical question, by the way.) If you turn out to be wrong, will you submit to our doing to you what scripture commands be done to a false prophet?

We Christians are not commanded to kill false prophets any more than we are to stone adulterers.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

You are prophesying something new that is not in scripture, not stating "doctrine". If you turn out to be wrong, what does scripture say we should do to you? (That's a rhetorical question, by the way.) If you turn out to be wrong, will you submit to our doing to you what scripture commands be done to a false prophet?

A false prophet, prophesies falsely, he preaches another god and comes in the name of another god. If i turn out to be wrong u can call me what ever you like for name calling me is doing me nothing but if i can get as many people to not take the mark and die for their god then i know i did right by holy one.

so if im wrong l am wrong but if im right then u all will know what to do when the time comes

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

How can i take the mark again when i am already a natural born sinner?.

Brethren u have not taking any mark yet. The mark of the beast is the sign everyone will be force to take to worship the GOD of the little horn. if you do not take it you will be killed.

it is similar to the days of Nebuchadnezzar the king. when he forced the people of his king dom to worship the image he had set up and if any man did not they would be thrown into the furnace of fire. and Hananiah Mishael Azariah did not worship the kings image of his god which he made. and so they where thrown into the fire.

In that sence the last days will be the same only. no angel will deliver them but god will test his people during these times. to fulfill his word and to try us, to purge us and to make us white...

See friends here is the thing you all must understand. The separation of the wheat and the tares. wheat and tares both grow in the same field but the only way to tell the difference is to test it. to see if its really a wheat or a tare. same as a wolf in sheep clothing and a true sheep. both look like sheep but inwardly one are wolves. how can you tell the difference of whom is whom since both say. Jesus is my lord and god and both say i accepted jesus into my life and both say i am saved.

How do you tell the difference between which is truely saved and which is saved in lip but in heart is a devil. How do you tell the difference?

Brethren no matter what a man says or does i tell you no false prophet or hypocrite or wolf in sheep clothing will die for christ.
For some will say christ died for us so why should we die for him that would defeat the purpose of christ dying for us.

and some will say in that day i do not have to suffer for god because he already suffered for me.

see truly their heart was never circumsized. yea their flesh may be curcumsized but their hearts foreskin was never cut off.

so they will say all matter of doctrines and philosophies and all manner of words to explain why they do not have to die for christ and why it is ok for them to take the mark of the beast when that time comes.

but gods people. his elect understands. that it is an honor to be persecuted for christ. and it is a trail to see if you will sleep in christ if the sword is upon u or not.

and plus above all these the scriptures say the reason for us being raptured this way is because of transgressions. for the holy people in these days have sinned. I have sinned and yet if he does hide me in the earth from his wrath then he is really really a merciful god for i do not know who has sinned like me.

but yet that does not mean i will dwell safely for my head might get sawed off. or i might burn to death or i might go through horrific torture and so what shall i be afraid? shall i say let me worship the god of the little horn so my life can be saved? what does it profit to gain the world for season and suffer eterrnal fire forever?

my friends i speak in the wisdom of god concerning the end. and i hope u all understand why christ choose to save his people in this way. but not all will be saved in this way i believe for their will be some who will not have the option to take the mark of the beast i believe but i may be wrong concerning this but from what the scriptures say... if any of you fear death. walk in faith and forsake your land. go to samaria. for i believe their will be a place where his people will be at rest till the time but judah will be captive and jerusalem is already in prelude to its destruction for jerusalem will be trampled in the days to come

and my friends if you all think the states is safe i tell you nay. for america will fall. and its destruction is not far away. it is not 10 or 20 years away.

do not trust in science or government or an mighty army. for science studies the technical aspects of what god creates and for all this they still cant find understanding. And it takes a multitude to establish a government but god is renown for overthrowing kingdoms.

and No king is saved by the power of a great army. for with him by one a thousand army men flee 100 ways.
for the battle is the lords.

now you do not have to believe me but so far from the time i joined in august till this day. everything that was told to you by this vessel has occured. so what makes u think the rest will not occur if it was god who told me.

and it wasnt no man nor no pastor nor a preacher of a congregation for let me tell you all something. all you wise men who trust in high ups for knowledge.
God is a god who turns the wisdom of the wise into foolishness. and he gives fools wisdom. He brings down the king who has rule over other kings like nebuchadnezzar in his day and rises up the poorest among the poor of men
so what does all this mean concerning what i say?

Just because a pastor or a pope or a high religious leader of the world tells u a doctrine concerning scripture does not mean his interpretation of it is correct for god wisdom is greater than ours.

He took a child to prophesy to kings and religious leaders in his day even the prophet jeremiah.
He took david the youngest of his brethren and one of the lowest among men to be king over israel in his day and king over the world to come in the future
He took moses a man who couldnt speak well to deliver our fathers out of the hand of pharrow
He took solomon the black and hated of his brothers to be one of the wises men who ever lived upon earth. according to the song of solomon
He took paul a man who persucuted the church to labor more greatly in christ then the 11 apostle who were chosen by christ in the flesh
and look how god is wisdom is different from us who look to college graduates, popes, leaders of churches and other high men for spiritual guidance, for God him self created himself in the flesh as the son of god. not born of a man and a women coming together but of a virgin.
and what manner of man did god create him self to be in the flesh? he did not make him self a pope. He did not make him self rich, he did not create himself handsome neither did he make him self a king in the earth tho his was king over all. but what did he do? jesus was made a poor man so many can become rich. Jesus had no form or beauty that many of us desire. Jesus did not come as king like ceasar or the kings of his time.
but he came Low a man who was poor and despised and claimed he was god and the son of god. which he was.

in fact god wisdom is so wise that many jews still do not believe jesus was the christ for to us how jesus came in the flesh saying he is king when this is the manner of man he was. thats like a poor man who is 30 living from house to house doing miracles saying he is god. to us it doesnt make any sense

but god is wiser than us and greater than us.

For this reason i tell u do not look to men who were lifted up for spiritual truths for majority of the times their is no truth in them. for i am not lifted up. neither am i a rich man or even a middle class man. but i am poor and oppressed man. not to bring glory to my self do i tell u this but to show u a pattern.

in gods ways. and whom he choses to give gifts of diverse gifts to. but i hope this fulls u and understand the words said unto u

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

We Christians are not commanded to kill false prophets any more than we are to stone adulterers.

sinthesis. true gods people christians are not commanded to kill false prophets but remember. not all of us is of him. they follow their own doctrine so if he wants to kill me let him come and kill me. not saying that is what he wants to do for i do not know whats in his mind nor heart but i will say this.

if he is thinking of killing me, Why would u kill a man who is saying to u the destroyer of our people is upon us. and he is going to kill us in the days to come. concerning all the saints who will be killed for christ sake?

If i said jesus is not god and god is a devil or another evil thing and a man said let us kill him. i would not argue with him. for what i did was evil. but if a man saying the little horn is here the little horn is here. and their is a man killing many brethren already even the little horn i speak of abu bakr al baghdadi.

if he says uno what messengeroftruth i do not believe he is the little horn i think the pope is or this guy is or whatever but uno what im gonna keep a eye on baghdadi because u never know. and because u believe in the same god i believe in and if i am of christ and u say u are of christ and we in one body of christ than who knows maybe god gave you a understand that he didnt give me yet so let me watch to see if what u say happens really does happen

I tell u if any one of u said that to me and in heart. i would have no argument or strife with anyone of you on this website. because if tables where turn and one of you told me you believe this person was the little horn and i honestly did not know in my heart who the little horn was at that time.

i tell you i most likely would have replied in that same way in the example i gave above..

I wouldnt say to u "o what should we do to you a false prophet if your doctrine is wrong" many of you really need to hear what you say to people and the fact that u all saying u are gods people and children. " would gods people react like that?' Unless god told them to kill that man who prophesied falsely.

now if i said uno what god told me, america is gonna be safe for years to come dont worry about watching for gods coming for we do not have to watch god told me this in a dream or whatever way.

and if a righteous man sees the corruption of my words, for i decieved the flock by saying their was peace to america coming when truly their is no peace coming to this nation but contrary wise the sword is indeed coming to the nations and this nation.

then if he says in his heart i am worthy of death. and god tells him to kill me, let him take my head from my shoulders.
but if no evil is found in me why kill me concerning this?

 

[Obadiah]

We Christians are not commanded to kill false prophets any more than we are to stone adulterers.

You are the one who brought up stoning adulterers and killing false prophets.

 

[Sinthesis]

You are prophesying something new that is not in scripture, not stating "doctrine". If you turn out to be wrong, what does scripture say we should do to you? (That's a rhetorical question, by the way.) If you turn out to be wrong, will you submit to our doing to you what scripture commands be done to a false prophet?

When he turns out to be wrong, what does scripture say we should do to him/her? That is not a rhetorical question. Are you willing to follow what scripture commands be done to a false prophet? If not, why wouldn't you be obedient to scripture?

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

(Edited, removed at poster's request. Obadiah.)

 

[for_his_glory]

Themessengeroftruth,

In my 60 years of being on this earth with the last 40 being Spiritually born again I could not count how many dooms day self proclaimed messages that have come down the pike for some catastrophic world event that has happened or is about to happen. Yes, we are told to watch the signs of Christ coming, but yet there will be much tribulation we will face before He does. Jesus gave the Disciples an outline in Matthew 24 as they asked Jesus, when shall these things be, what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world. From Genesis to Revelation we have been given answers to those three questions, but yet, has the sun be darkened, and the moon not given her light. Have the stars fallen from heaven, and the powers of the heavens be shaken yet? Matthew 24:29. Have the seven seals been opened? Rev 6-8. Have we've gone through the seven trumpet sounds? Rev 8-11. Has the Temple been rebuilt yet that the antichrist beast will surround it with his army and take it over for the final time as he sets up his one world religious, economic and political power as Satan being that dragon that gives the beast its power, seat and great authority? Rev 13.

The answer to all these questions is, NO. We have not seen that which we are to be looking for as the signs of Christ return. Instead of giving the warning first, should we not be giving the word of God teaching those to repent for the Salvation of God as for the kingdom of God is nigh. Themessengeroftruth, I appreciate your young enthusiasm, but think on these things first as we first and foremost must be about our Fathers business in His commission of Matthew 28:18-20 to take the good news of Gods salvation through His grace to prepare the word for what will come instead of scaring one into Gods salvation. God gives the warnings, but none will believe them unless they know God first. God bless

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

Themessengeroftruth,

In my 60 years of being on this earth with the last 40 being Spiritually born again I could not count how many dooms day self proclaimed messages that have come down the pike for some catastrophic world event that has happened or is about to happen. Yes, we are told to watch the signs of Christ coming, but yet there will be much tribulation we will face before He does. Jesus gave the Disciples an outline in Matthew 24 as they asked Jesus, when shall these things be, what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world. From Genesis to Revelation we have been given answers to those three questions, but yet, has the sun be darkened, and the moon not given her light. Have the stars fallen from heaven, and the powers of the heavens be shaken yet? Matthew 24:29. Have the seven seals been opened? Rev 6-8. Have we've gone through the seven trumpet sounds? Rev 8-11. Has the Temple been rebuilt yet that the antichrist beast will surround it with his army and take it over for the final time as he sets up his one world religious, economic and political power as Satan being that dragon that gives the beast its power, seat and great authority? Rev 13.

The answer to all these questions is, NO. We have not seen that which we are to be looking for as the signs of Christ return. Instead of giving the warning first, should we not be giving the word of God teaching those to repent for the Salvation of God as for the kingdom of God is nigh. Themessengeroftruth, I appreciate your young enthusiasm, but think on these things first as we first and foremost must be about our Fathers business in His commission of Matthew 28:18-20 to take the good news of Gods salvation through His grace to prepare the word for what will come instead of scaring one into Gods salvation. God gives the warnings, but none will believe them unless they know God first. God bless

There was a field in which there was plenty of crops and sheeps. There was a lord who was master over this field. Now a time came when that lord had left the field and gave the field to his servants and appointed them masters over the field. but the lord told his servants to keep a eye out for the field because in the days to come he was going to return to the field and destroy it. Now the first group of servants was watching and they spoke to the sheep saying their lord was coming to destroy the field but the lord never came in that day.
those servants eventually died and the next generation of servants came to watch the field.
they all said the lord was coming but he never came in their day.
now after many years and a multitude of generations their came another group of servants to the field. They said the lord was going to destroy it but the sheeps, the goats, the wolves and the all the animals that dwelt in the field did not listen. They said in their heart how many times have we heard this saying the lord is coming back and he never came.

Our fathers been hearing this since the begining of the world and yet the world is still here. What makes you so special so we should listen to you?
There fore their was a division among the animals and they did not believe but some of them did.

now when the lord came and destroyed the field the beast that dwelled in the field said Lord Lord why didnt you tell me you was coming? why didnt you save me? and the lord said to them, when i told you by my servants u didnt believe me for my long tarrying. and because of this you did not watch for your lord who u say you worship. therefore depart from me you workers of inequity for i never knew u.

The field is this whole world. The servants is the prophets and the animals is the people in this world

For exactly as it was in this parable so it will be in the end of the world. for because of false prophets, saying the world was ending when it was not, and because of past brethren the prophets preaching the end but the end did not come in their day and because of gods long tarrying with the people

For god has no pleasure in the death of the wicked but rather all turn from their wickedness and live. even for this sake and others god tarried long with the world so now when it is here

many say, In heart what makes this any different?

for_his_glory listen to me, i agree with you concerning what makes this different from before. but i will tell you and listen to me

Many men and women in the past before said the world was ending and some prophesied it through scriptures, some through dreams and some through science and many other things but it never came.

listen to me For his glory, WATCH, the only way to tell if god really did tell me and did not deceive me as others is to watch. just look and if you see what is saying through me by him come to pass then you know this was not a interpretation but it was really god speaking through me.

and i will tell u what to watch for. 1. the trampling and captivity of jerusalem in the days to come, 2. the captivity of egypt by isis in the days to come and the bowing of libya to baghdadi in the days to come. 3. The fall of babylon, and the fall of america, for america only has 2 fates, it will either worship al baghdadi or be overthrown by him.

4. when u see a mark or a sign issued by a man for al baghdadi sake, where u cant buy or sell, my friend that is the mark of the beast and do not take it.

Listen the only way for you to tell the difference between this and before is the fulfillment of the prophecy.

So what does all this mean? it means when u see the mark of the beast know this for a fact. this world will not see another 4 years from that time without god shaking the heavens and the whole world enter into THE GREAT DAY OF THE LORD.

for the mark of the beast and the slaughter of the saints will only last for 3 and a half years. when u have seen all this, come to pass know god really did tell me. not for me but for you and many others if you believe, for we are in one body not everybody part has the same function so it is with all them who is in the body of christ god might have given you faith and me he might have given wisdom of the end so when u see the signs approaching you will have enough faith to believe and to die for your christ.

but listen when u see the abomination of the desolation flee to mountains even samaria run to samaria

 

[for_his_glory]

It's not going to come from ISIS or al baghdadi or any other source, but will come from the little horn that is the son of perdition who sets on the throne of the rebuilt Temple proclaiming he is god and will force all to take his mark.

Compare Matthew 24:15 with Luke 21:20 and you will see the abomination of desolation Daniel spoke of is that Jerusalem will once again be compassed by armies in the end of days who will take over a newly rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. The army is antichrist Papal Rome in whom the dragon (Satan) gives the beast (Papal Rome) it's power, seat and authority, Rev 13:2, will once again take it's seat in Jerusalem and this is why Jesus said in Matthew 24:2 one stone will not be upon another as Jesus will destroy this rebuilt Temple as it is taken over once again as the temple of an antichrist religious, economic and political system.

The abomination of desolation Daniel spoke of in Daniel 9 was in three parts as the Temple in Daniels time being rebuilt around 538 BC after Israel's exile in Babylon and were released from captivity when Babylon (Chaldeans) was conquered by the Medes and the Persians. The second Temple in Jesus day, which Israel was under Roman authority through Pilate being its governor that had Jesus crucified and the third rebuilt Temple in the time of the end involving the whole body of Christ as Papal Rome will once again take its seat in Jerusalem being the final abomination that will cause desolation as when Christ returns God will then make an end of all the abominations (sin).

What is happening in the world that we see right now is what Jesus revealed to the Disciples in Matthew 24:4-8 as an outline of the beginning of sorrows which will continue up to the time when the of the son of perdition takes his seat, Rev 13, and when that happens then look up to the sky for the sign of Christ coming in the clouds to send His angels out for the harvest of His Bride.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

It's not going to come from ISIS or al baghdadi or any other source, but will come from the little horn that is the son of perdition who sets on the throne of the rebuilt Temple proclaiming he is god and will force all to take his mark.

Compare Matthew 24:15 with Luke 21:20 and you will see the abomination of desolation Daniel spoke of is that Jerusalem will once again be compassed by armies in the end of days who will take over a newly rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. The army is antichrist Papal Rome in whom the dragon (Satan) gives the beast (Papal Rome) it's power, seat and authority, Rev 13:2, will once again take it's seat in Jerusalem and this is why Jesus said in Matthew 24:2 one stone will not be upon another as Jesus will destroy this rebuilt Temple as it is taken over once again as the temple of an antichrist religious, economic and political system.

The abomination of desolation Daniel spoke of in Daniel 9 was in three parts as the Temple in Daniels time being rebuilt around 538 BC after Israel's exile in Babylon and were released from captivity when Babylon (Chaldeans) was conquered by the Medes and the Persians. The second Temple in Jesus day, which Israel was under Roman authority through Pilate being its governor that had Jesus crucified and the third rebuilt Temple in the time of the end involving the whole body of Christ as Papal Rome will once again take its seat in Jerusalem being the final abomination that will cause desolation as when Christ returns God will then make an end of all the abominations (sin).

What is happening in the world that we see right now is what Jesus revealed to the Disciples in Matthew 24:4-8 as an outline of the beginning of sorrows which will continue up to the time when the of the son of perdition takes his seat, Rev 13, and when that happens then look up to the sky for the sign of Christ coming in the clouds to send His angels out for the harvest of His Bride.

All I can say is we will see if what u said comes to pass or what was told to u through me

 

[for_his_glory]

All I can say is we will see if what u said comes to pass or what was told to u through me

It truly isn't what we say, but what God has already said as in what to look for. Every war and controversy that has been so far since the time Jesus ascended before the Father has been prophesied by some one as being the end, Matthew 24:5,6. ISIS and all those others before them that are to numerous to mention have always fought for control of the world, but the end is not here yet, Matthew 24:6, as it will not be until we see the abomination of desolations when the son of perdition takes his seat claiming he is god. Then he forces the world to bow down to his religious, economic, and political power which is found in Rev 13 as the dragon (Satan) gives him his power, seat and great authority as he causes his army to once again encompass around the newly rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem and takes his seat on the throne claiming he is god.

 

[Themessengeroftruth]

It truly isn't what we say, but what God has already said as in what to look for. Every war and controversy that has been so far since the time Jesus ascended before the Father has been prophesied by some one as being the end, Matthew 24:5,6. ISIS and all those others before them that are to numerous to mention have always fought for control of the world, but the end is not here yet, Matthew 24:6, as it will not be until we see the abomination of desolations when the son of perdition takes his seat claiming he is god. Then he forces the world to bow down to his religious, economic, and political power which is found in Rev 13 as the dragon (Satan) gives him his power, seat and great authority as he causes his army to once again encompass around the newly rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem and takes his seat on the throne claiming he is god.

I didn't say we will see because of what me or u say will happen but I said we will see for our bread concerning the end of the world is different

U believe the scriptures and u interpret it saying this and this will happen and u say Isis is just the fulfillment ment of there will be wars and rumors of wars but the end is not yet

I believe the leader of Isis is the little horn and the end is here.

U believe the Temple Mount has to be rebuilt before the end comes

I believe the captivity of Jerusalem in the coming days is a greater sign of the end that is to come

Therefore I said we will see. For me and u will go back and forth about our food for you say your doctrine concerning the end is the true meat and I say mines is the true bread.

Therefore will we only tell when it comes to pass therefore just wait on it and watch cause it will not tarry.

The sword is here