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Bible Study Luke 3:23-38

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clark thompson

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Luke 3:23-38 King James Version (KJV)
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,
26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,
27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,
28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,
29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,
30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,
31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,
33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,
35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,
36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,
37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Luke 3:23-38Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
23 As He began His ministry, Jesus was about 30 years old and was thought to be[a] the
son of Joseph, son[b] of Heli,24 son of Matthat, son of Levi,
son of Melchi, son of Jannai,
son of Joseph, 25 son of Mattathias, son of Amos, son of Nahum,
son of Esli, son of Naggai,26 son of Maath, son of Mattathias,
son of Semein, son of Josech,
son of Joda, 27 son of Joanan, son of Rhesa, son of Zerubbabel,
son of Shealtiel, son of Neri,28 son of Melchi, son of Addi,
son of Cosam, son of Elmadam,
son of Er, 29 son of Joshua, son of Eliezer, son of Jorim,
son of Matthat, son of Levi,30 son of Simeon, son of Judah,
son of Joseph, son of Jonam,
son of Eliakim, 31 son of Melea, son of Menna, son of Mattatha,
son of Nathan, son of David,32 son of Jesse, son of Obed,
son of Boaz, son of Salmon,[c] son of Nahshon, 33 son of Amminadab,
son of Ram,[d] son of Hezron,
son of Perez, son of Judah,34 son of Jacob, son of Isaac,
son of Abraham, son of Terah,
son of Nahor, 35 son of Serug, son of Reu, son of Peleg,
son of Eber, son of Shelah,36 son of Cainan, son of Arphaxad,
son of Shem, son of Noah,
son of Lamech, 37 son of Methuselah, son of Enoch, son of Jared,
son of Mahalaleel, son of Cainan,38 son of Enos, son of Seth,
son of Adam, son of God.
Footnotes:
  1. Luke 3:23 People did not know about His virgin birth; Mt 1:18-25; Lk 1:26-38
  2. Luke 3:23 The relationship in some cases may be more distant than a son.
  3. Luke 3:32 Other mss read Sala
  4. Luke 3:33 Other mss read Amminadab, son of Aram, son of Joram; other mss read Amminadab, son of Admin, son of Arnin
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) Copyright © 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2009 by Holman Bible Publishers, Nashville Tennessee. All rights reserved.

These are my thoughts, please share yours.
30 years old was the common age to start ministry or service to the Lord, it gave time to learn the word and truly understand it.
This line starts with Joseph most likely because he was his father in laws heir because his father in law had no sons.
This line is most likely of Mary and unlike Matthew’s goes to Adam, Jesus us the second Adam.
 
Interesting observation Clark. One of the pitfalls of a young man entering the ministry is "pride". Your thinking is a lot like the Apostle Paul's when he cautioned against a novice, lest he be lifted up in pride.
 
Chopper said:
Interesting observation Clark. One of the pitfalls of a young man entering the ministry is "pride". Your thinking is a lot like the Apostle Paul's when he cautioned against a novice, lest he be lifted up in pride.
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Yet if we look at Paul as our example at the time of his Damascus road conversion and beyond:
  • Paul was a fully grown man (I have no idea as to his actual age).
  • Paul was a Pharisee, educated, trained and learned in the old testament writings and the knowledge of the law.
  • For all his knowledge of the law and training in the scriptures, Paul did not understand them as a Pharisee and student of the scriptures, or he would have recognized Jesus when he was yet alive for who he was. But obviously we know that didn't happen else he would not have been involved in the stoning of Stephen.
  • Paul, or maybe I should say Saul, a trained student of the scriptures and the knowledge of the law and prophets, and yet remained blinded to the truth. It was not until the Lord blinded Saul on the road to Damascus, that he truly began to see.
  • After Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus, didn't Paul wait for 14 years or something like that before he actually set out on his ministry to the Gentiles?
  • Paul, being a learned man in the scriptures, finds his understanding of the scriptures made plain before him by the power of Christ and the Holy Spirit, and he is able to convey this understanding of the old testament writing and the law better than most of the other new testament writers.
 
clark thompson said:
Luke 3:23-38 King James Version (KJV)
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,
26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,
27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,
28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,
29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,
30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,
31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,
33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,
35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,
36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,
37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Luke 3:23-38Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
23 As He began His ministry, Jesus was about 30 years old and was thought to be[a] the
son of Joseph, son[b] of Heli,24 son of Matthat, son of Levi,
son of Melchi, son of Jannai,
son of Joseph, 25 son of Mattathias, son of Amos, son of Nahum,
son of Esli, son of Naggai,26 son of Maath, son of Mattathias,
son of Semein, son of Josech,
son of Joda, 27 son of Joanan, son of Rhesa, son of Zerubbabel,
son of Shealtiel, son of Neri,28 son of Melchi, son of Addi,
son of Cosam, son of Elmadam,
son of Er, 29 son of Joshua, son of Eliezer, son of Jorim,
son of Matthat, son of Levi,30 son of Simeon, son of Judah,
son of Joseph, son of Jonam,
son of Eliakim, 31 son of Melea, son of Menna, son of Mattatha,
son of Nathan, son of David,32 son of Jesse, son of Obed,
son of Boaz, son of Salmon,[c] son of Nahshon, 33 son of Amminadab,
son of Ram,[d] son of Hezron,
son of Perez, son of Judah,34 son of Jacob, son of Isaac,
son of Abraham, son of Terah,
son of Nahor, 35 son of Serug, son of Reu, son of Peleg,
son of Eber, son of Shelah,36 son of Cainan, son of Arphaxad,
son of Shem, son of Noah,
son of Lamech, 37 son of Methuselah, son of Enoch, son of Jared,
son of Mahalaleel, son of Cainan,38 son of Enos, son of Seth,
son of Adam, son of God.
Footnotes:
  1. Luke 3:23 People did not know about His virgin birth; Mt 1:18-25; Lk 1:26-38
  2. Luke 3:23 The relationship in some cases may be more distant than a son.
  3. Luke 3:32 Other mss read Sala
  4. Luke 3:33 Other mss read Amminadab, son of Aram, son of Joram; other mss read Amminadab, son of Admin, son of Arnin
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) Copyright © 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2009 by Holman Bible Publishers, Nashville Tennessee. All rights reserved.

These are my thoughts, please share yours.
30 years old was the common age to start ministry or service to the Lord, it gave time to learn the word and truly understand it.
This line starts with Joseph most likely because he was his father in laws heir because his father in law had no sons.
This line is most likely of Mary and unlike Matthew’s goes to Adam, Jesus us the second Adam.
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Could be, maybe people would accept Him better, I don't know for sure, afterall He was God in the flesh.
But I do know when He was 12, He was found in the Temple, in the midst of doctors, hearing them and asking them questions, And all that heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers.
And when they saw Him they were amazed.
And He said to them, How is it that ye sought Me? Wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
Luke 2:43-49
In the book of Matt. You will find the ancestors of Joseph, Luke the lineage of Mary.
 
ezrider said:
Yet if we look at Paul as our example at the time of his Damascus road conversion and beyond:
  • Paul was a fully grown man (I have no idea as to his actual age).
  • Paul was a Pharisee, educated, trained and learned in the old testament writings and the knowledge of the law.
  • For all his knowledge of the law and training in the scriptures, Paul did not understand them as a Pharisee and student of the scriptures, or he would have recognized Jesus when he was yet alive for who he was. But obviously we know that didn't happen else he would not have been involved in the stoning of Stephen.
  • Paul, or maybe I should say Saul, a trained student of the scriptures and the knowledge of the law and prophets, and yet remained blinded to the truth. It was not until the Lord blinded Saul on the road to Damascus, that he truly began to see.
  • After Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus, didn't Paul wait for 14 years or something like that before he actually set out on his ministry to the Gentiles?
  • Paul, being a learned man in the scriptures, finds his understanding of the scriptures made plain before him by the power of Christ and the Holy Spirit, and he is able to convey this understanding of the old testament writing and the law better than most of the other new testament writers.
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All that you said is true my friend. Thank you for shedding light on another side of Clarks OP.
 
clark thompson said:
Luke 3:23-38 King James Version (KJV)
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
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These are my thoughts, please share yours.
30 years old was the common age to start ministry or service to the Lord, it gave time to learn the word and truly understand it.
This line starts with Joseph most likely because he was his father in laws heir because his father in law had no sons.
This line is most likely of Mary and unlike Matthew’s goes to Adam, Jesus us the second Adam.
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I am not sure what your point is, clark.
That is because I see a H U G E cut-and-paste about the genealogy of Jesus and nothing about either Paul or Adam in either passage.

Are you perhaps attempting to set a date for the beginning of Paul's ministry? If that is the case. I ask "What is the significance of doing that, and please explain your reason for seeking information about which the NT is silent?
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From what I can see, Clark was in favor of older men entering ministry, rather than young men because of the issue of pride. Of course I could be wrong. I was wrong once back in the fifties. :hysterical
 
Chopper said:
From what I can see, Clark was in favor of older men entering ministry, rather than young men because of the issue of pride. Of course I could be wrong. I was wrong once back in the fifties. :hysterical
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Thanks for the clarification. Being an old geezer, sometimes I am not as smart as I once was. That was when I was 17. I knew everything then.
 
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