Marrying your sister in the light of the Bible.

[Solo]

opening your eyes and ears you said. Just wanted to tell you that ears should come first because ears are 'circular', meaning you are able to hear something from the north, east, south and west whereas you eyes only have a 180 degree vision.

You are regulated to having only human eyes because you have failed to repent and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Instead you follow an devil and only have eyes of flesh, and ears of flesh. When you repent of your godless ways, and come to know that Jesus is the Saviour of mankind, you will be given the Holy Spirit who will live inside of you giving you His ears, and His eyes. At that time you will be able to discern the truth from the lies. Until then you are under the bondage of your god, the devil.

 

[jgredline]

Deep thinker
First I will say that I am in 100% agreement.....with solo...

Second I just finished reading your debate with Oscar3 and I gots to tell you that he is handing you your lunch. Those things that he revealed about your demonic prophet mohammed are very emabarrasing for you.

I do pray that you will come to a saving faith in Jesus Christ, or you will burn in hell for all eternity with mohammed.

 

[Guest]

dont get to happy before i havent replied. Solo doesnt know whats coming in for him. You will have to wait a couple of days though. Like i said beore you and Oscar are just all talk. It had to take someone else to answer the question for you. Although i have a problem with that answer because of the following verse:

Genesis 20:11-12 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

11And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake.

12And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

 

[Relic]

Solo doesnt know whats coming in for him.

You will have to wait a couple of days though.

HUH? Those words are not very clear at all.

what that heck is that supposed to mean?

What's coming to him, and wait a couple of days for what? :crazyeyes:

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[jgredline]

dont get to happy before i havent replied. Solo doesnt know whats coming in for him.

Actually deep thinker here is another formal warning for you. One more warning and I will request you be banned from this site. This warning comes for making threats against Another member ''Solo''....With the reputation that muslims have I do not take threats lightly....

You are warned...

 

[Solo]

Solo doesnt know whats coming in for him. You will have to wait a couple of days though.

A typical ignorant muslim threat. All muslims will rot in hell if they reject the Lordship of Jesus Christ, and it is sad to think that a liar and deceiver can hold so many in bondage away from the truth as the devil has the muslims.

 

[Solo]

HUH? Those words are not very clear at all.

what that heck is that supposed to mean?

What's coming to him, and wait a couple of days for what? :crazyeyes:

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Relic,
See the olo at the end of my username Solo? The olo is the double-barrel shotgun that is waiting to show anyone who attacks me or my family, muslim or otherwise, their creator first hand!
:smt066

 

[Relic]

Relic,
See the olo at the end of my username Solo? The olo is the double-barrel shotgun that is waiting to show anyone who attacks me or my family, muslim or otherwise, their creator first hand!
:smt066

But solo, not much different than the Japanese who were Kamikaze suicides, the muslim suicide bombers don't really care about a double barrel shot gun. They prefer to die in the process and take out a whole bunch of other people in the vicinity.
:o :smt073 :crazyeyes:


It is just insane, pure insanity :



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[Solo]

But solo, not much different than the Japanese who were Kamikaze suicides, the muslim suicide bombers don't really care about a double barrel shot gun. They prefer to die in the process and take out a whole bunch of other people in the vicinity.
:o :smt073 :crazyeyes:


It is just insane, pure insanity :



.

Well, if they succeed, it is my time to go; and while they are in hell looking for 72 virgins, I will be in heaven singing praises to God Almighty, and visiting with my eldest son! :wink:


PS How many virgins do you figure there is in hell? :-D

 

[Joudie]

Whoa, whoa, whoa!

Whoa...and...whoa...

Sorry, I'm usually not so repetitive, but this page of the thread warranted it.

Dear God Almighty, you people! Are you all paranoid? All deep_thinking said was that Solo was "all talk" and that he doesn't know "what's coming in for him". I am quite sure he was meaning that Solo doesn't know what he's talking about and he doesn't know what Scriptures/information deep_thinking has in store to show Solo (and probably Oscar3) and prove his ignorance.

This is my interpretation--and I am quite sure that's what he meant. He didn't seem, in any way, to be threatening anyone's life. What, just because he's Muslim and he says something that could be percieved as a threat it suddenly is one???? My heart is thumping at a crazy rate you know. That part where Solo was talking about his gun and stuff...just...GUH!

Deep_thinking, I hope you weren't really threatening anyone...I doubt it, but if you did, that's no way to make a point. If you didn't then I'm sorry it was percieved as such. Maybe you ought to choose your words a little more carefully next time.

 

[jgredline]

Deep_thinking, I hope you weren't really threatening anyone...I doubt it, but if you did, that's no way to make a point. If you didn't then I'm sorry it was percieved as such. Maybe you ought to choose your words a little more carefully next time.

Joudie
You see, even by your own statement there is that little bit or a lot of dought in what deep_thinker said....

With the reputation that muslims have, it would be foolish to take any threat they make lightly....This is the mistake the liberal Left makes and will come back to bite us all....sorry to say...but the truth is sometimes hard...

 

[Fnerb]

Is it permissible to marry your sister in Christianity in the light of the Bible?

I don't really even see the point of the OP? Maybe i'm reading your question the wrong way, but what is with the circular reasoning? It's almost like you ask the question just for the sake saying, "Oh!? Well the Quran say this..."

 

[Joudie]

I don't really have that much doubt. But there is always a possibility, and I would have it with any person regardless of religion. Especially after all that commotion...*shakes head*

I'll tell you one thing, when I initially read the sentence that caused all the hubbub I did not at all percieve it as a threat. Not one bit. That's why I was so friggin' surprised to see everyone jump on it...as if he came right out and said he was looking up Solo's address and was bringing a dagger along. I felt that you all jumped down his throat when the sentence could have easily been taken in another much more innocent way. Couldn't Solo just say, "Could you clarify what you mean by that?" and I bet deep_thinking would. He's relatively new but I see him so far as a proud Muslim with nothing to hide.

I'm guessing the word "Muslim" is truly on your words-that-give-off-evil-evil-vibes list...or else you wouldn't be so jumpy around them. It's radicals that have that reputation you speak of. Deep_thinking, so far, does not remind me of a radical. He has not said anything pro-9/11, pro-Osama Bin Laden or Al-Qaida. Heck, not even Saudi Arabia. (Unless I'm mistaken, in which case, links would be helpful.)

He seems to be a) defending his religion against misconceptions b) engaging in comparing it to Christianity c) questioning Christianity by posing questions towards self-professed knowledgeable Christians.

Is there anything wrong with that?

 

[Solo]

I don't really have that much doubt. But there is always a possibility, and I would have it with any person regardless of religion. Especially after all that commotion...*shakes head*

I'll tell you one thing, when I initially read the sentence that caused all the hubbub I did not at all percieve it as a threat. Not one bit. That's why I was so friggin' surprised to see everyone jump on it...as if he came right out and said he was looking up Solo's address and was bringing a dagger along. I felt that you all jumped down his throat when the sentence could have easily been taken in another much more innocent way. Couldn't Solo just say, "Could you clarify what you mean by that?" and I bet deep_thinking would. He's relatively new but I see him so far as a proud Muslim with nothing to hide.

I'm guessing the word "Muslim" is truly on your words-that-give-off-evil-evil-vibes list...or else you wouldn't be so jumpy around them. It's radicals that have that reputation you speak of. Deep_thinking, so far, does not remind me of a radical. He has not said anything pro-9/11, pro-Osama Bin Laden or Al-Qaida. Heck, not even Saudi Arabia. (Unless I'm mistaken, in which case, links would be helpful.)

He seems to be a) defending his religion against misconceptions b) engaging in comparing it to Christianity c) questioning Christianity by posing questions towards self-professed knowledgeable Christians.

Is there anything wrong with that?

Deep_Thinking, Joudie, or any other muslim has no right to come on a Christian forum and spread antichristian rhetoric. If you want to defend Islam, then do so in a forum that allows such. This is not a religious apologetic forum that allows the teachings of all religions to debate their points of contention. This is a Christian forum. If a muslim comes on board to learn of Christianity, Great! But if a muslim comes on board to attack the Scriptures, Jews, Chriatianity, etc., they are in the wrong place.

 

[Joudie]

I have NEVER attacked Christianity. Name me ONE SINGLE TIME I ever attacked it or spread "anti-Christian rhetoric". I am not like you Solo, and I hold that fact in high regard. I never bashed a single religion, and if you perceived any of my posts as such then the problem lies with your extreme defense mechanisms and not my words. What I mean by that is I'm assuming that anyone who doesn't have an exact replica of your viewpoints is your enemy and should be shot down at every turn, am I right sir? Just answer YES or NO.

I would also appreciate a link or source (that you, Solo, are so fond of asking people to provide) of deep_thinking attacking Christianity or providing "anti-Christian rhetoric".

If a Muslim comes on board and starts preaching that Islam is superior to Christianity...then fine, I can understand why one would want to ban him or her because it's a Christian forum and the promotion of other religions shouldn't be allowed.

BUT, when the Christians are spreading lies and misconceptions about a religon that is not even theirs, and are believing it with all their hearts, then why can't a Muslim defend his religion? Why can't he clear up the misconceptions? What's wrong with a Christian, after lending a listening ear, saying, "Oh, okay, so maybe it's not meant to be so bloodthirsty and evil, but I believe that Christ is the way to go." Or whatever. Or at least ask open questions that you don't already have a rock-hard firm answer to in your own mind?

I mean, is Jesus going to put you in Hell for not thinking that Islam is the root of all evil? I thought all you had to do to get to Heaven was believe in Him and his dying on the cross for mankind's sins. I had no idea that included making sure that any Muslim who comes to defend misconceptions has to be fought against with everything you've got. Did Jesus ask you to do that? 'Cause if he did, then that puts things into perspective. I can't blame you, since your salvation depends on it.

Here's a little tidbit of information for you:

I came on this forum to learn more about Christianity and to trade ideas and philosophies with people interested in talking about religion. I like learning about different religions, that's why I didn't go to a Muslim forum--though I am a member of one.

Frankly, after all my time here, you have made me feel more and more adverse to Christianity than I ever thought possible. I always looked at Christianity as a simple peaceful non-argumentative religion...but no. You're just as bad as any hard-headed Muslim cleric, and what's worse, you don't know it. If I had an inkling of an inkling of converting--Solo, jgredline, Lewis W and Carey drove it out of me. With a vengeance.

So much for spreading the Gospel...

 

[Solo]

I have NEVER attacked Christianity. Name me ONE SINGLE TIME I ever attacked it or spread "anti-Christian rhetoric". I am not like you Solo, and I hold that fact in high regard. I never bashed a single religion, and if you perceived any of my posts as such then the problem lies with your extreme defense mechanisms and not my words. What I mean by that is I'm assuming that anyone who doesn't have an exact replica of your viewpoints is your enemy and should be shot down at every turn, am I right sir? Just answer YES or NO.

I would also appreciate a link or source (that you, Solo, are so fond of asking people to provide) of deep_thinking attacking Christianity or providing "anti-Christian rhetoric".

If a Muslim comes on board and starts preaching that Islam is superior to Christianity...then fine, I can understand why one would want to ban him or her because it's a Christian forum and the promotion of other religions shouldn't be allowed.

BUT, when the Christians are spreading lies and misconceptions about a religon that is not even theirs, and are believing it with all their hearts, then why can't a Muslim defend his religion? Why can't he clear up the misconceptions? What's wrong with a Christian, after lending a listening ear, saying, "Oh, okay, so maybe it's not meant to be so bloodthirsty and evil, but I believe that Christ is the way to go." Or whatever. Or at least ask open questions that you don't already have a rock-hard firm answer to in your own mind?

I mean, is Jesus going to put you in Hell for not thinking that Islam is the root of all evil? I thought all you had to do to get to Heaven was believe in Him and his dying on the cross for mankind's sins. I had no idea that included making sure that any Muslim who comes to defend misconceptions has to be fought against with everything you've got. Did Jesus ask you to do that? 'Cause if he did, then that puts things into perspective. I can't blame you, since your salvation depends on it.

Here's a little tidbit of information for you:

I came on this forum to learn more about Christianity and to trade ideas and philosophies with people interested in talking about religion. I like learning about different religions, that's why I didn't go to a Muslim forum--though I am a member of one.

Frankly, after all my time here, you have made me feel more and more adverse to Christianity than I ever thought possible. I always looked at Christianity as a simple peaceful non-argumentative religion...but no. You're just as bad as any hard-headed Muslim cleric, and what's worse, you don't know it. If I had an inkling of an inkling of converting--Solo, jgredline, Lewis W and Carey drove it out of me. With a vengeance.

So much for spreading the Gospel...

Here is a couple of your posts that are less than redeeming:

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#252843[/url] ]Well, I do "curse" Jesus a lot, but that's not because I necessarily believe he has power over me or anything. It's just I hear it so much...it's ingrained. Plus the name itself is just gratifiying to say. (I happen to have an affinity to J names...I love names like Jason, Jamie, Jackie...don't ask, 'cause I don't know where it came from.)

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#253414[/url] ]So, why would God Almighty, the One who created Heaven and Earth and the universe and all that is in it...would see someone who has done nothing but good and damn him/her for all eternity for not being born again or whatever? This is Hell we're talking about here: fire, brimstone and every excruciating thing a mortal could possibly think of and worse. Do honorable, good people deserve this fate?

Look at us mere humans: we give Nobel Peace Prizes to those who do good and help others. We don't ask if they're Christian or born again. We reward them, admire them, respect them, write about them. You're telling me God disregards their deeds and looks at their religion solely and tosses them in Hell because it is not to His liking? Wow...God's starting to look a lot like a bigot, isn't He?

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#284682[/url] ]However, my belief is that God is not a one-track dictatorial being. I don't believe that in His mind, there is one way and one way alone to Heaven. That means that millions of very good, very honest and very hard-working people would be destined to everlasting torment only because they never found Jesus...and I find that to be very unfair and rather tyrannical of a God who is the Creator of this entire universe.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#288454[/url] ]See? See what I mean? Dangit, people...!

Look, someone on some website compiled a sizeable list of contradictions and other inconsistencies that he or she saw as true in the Bible.

Lewis W and Gary both have compiled similar lists from similar websites about Islam, and a lot, if not almost all, of you wholeheartedly believe that what these sites say are true, *simply* because it fits with what you want to believe in. (Obviously, you'll tell yourselves otherwise, but really, you're not fooling anyone except yourselves and everyone like you.)

You are judging without knowing what the heck it is you're judging, and you condemn others for doing the same thing to the Bible.

Can you spell "hypocrite"? 'Cause I sure can.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#288511[/url] ]What I'm talking about is the fact that someone made a website, and in it he or she rattled off a considerable list of things he or she found wrong with the Qur'an/Hadith, and settled it as fact. It was posted and treated as fact, and a lot of forum members denounced the Islam even further because of what this website said.

Now here's another website, doing pretty much the exact same thing, but to the Bible. A lot of you say that what he or she is saying is not true, and denounce the website as providing falsehoods about Christianity and the Bible. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

However, here's my point. If someone creates a website denouncing Islam and puts up the same kind of proof that this person did in denouncing Christianity, you all agree with it. (I don't want to generalize. I'll say most of you agree with it.)

However, when one does the same thing with Christianity, most of you immediately disagree with it. You are quick to agree with whatever you want to believe in, simply because you *want* to believe in it. It doesn't seem to matter if it's the truth or not.

Look, I'm not agreeing with what the person who made up the site is saying. I'm just saying you're very quick to judge as good is that which fits in nicely with your beliefs, and quick to reject things that don't. I'm not saying Islam is perfect, nor that the Qur'an is flawless...I don't believe the Bible is flawless either, nor the Torah. Still, it's what you believe in, and as long as it gives you peace and helps you lead your life in a good and honest way, I say more power to you. I just wanted to make a point, that a lot of you members are closed-minded to an almost scary degree.

If I continue further, I'm guessing it's going to turn into a Christianity vs. Islam kinda thing, so I suppose we'll just resume in the Christianity and Other Religions forums if you wish.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#290077[/url] ]I don't care what the Bible says, or what one thinks it says.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#290077[/url] ]You, who call yourselves true "Christians", support a terrorist state in my opinion, under the guise that its what God supports as well.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#290192[/url] ]You, Solo, however, (and many others on here, I'd bet) are content to look at the extremist minority that the media blows up in your face and create your own stereotype....It's hard for me to believe sometimes that people like you still exist. And in America, no less...

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#290226[/url] ]...You interpret it as a devilish and violent book. Okay, the good thing about that interpretation is that it shows me you can read. It's nice to know I'm not conversing with illiterates. The not-so-good thing is that it means that's just about all you can do. You refuse to read between the lines, or to even think. You'd rather just rest your head and read things superficially unless it concerns your religion, in which case you do all that's in your might to prove it right and the best--even if it means often repeating the same stuff to an almost mind-numbing degree.

I, however, prefer to question things and look at them from different perspectives. The fact that a vast amount of Muslims condemn Al-Qaeda and a bunch of other extremist groups means that the Qur'an can really be seen as a good book to follow so long as you've got a brain and, most importantly, know how to use it.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#291047[/url] ]And, Solo, I'd hate to break it to you, buddy, but your mentality is EXACTLY that of the terrorists. Exactly.

Solo said: "Until Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Russia, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, etc. etc. etc. turn to Jesus Christ, there will be no peace."

Terrorists claim there will be no peace until everyone turns to Islam! That makes you, Solo, no better than them. No better at all. In fact, it makes you worse because you're condemning them but, in essence, think the same way yourself.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#291890[/url] ]All those articles really are sad...it's sad to think people as small-minded as this still exist...it's disgusting. However, it's not representative of Islam. It's representative of poor people with no education and no understanding of what religion is supposed to be. This is not all that different than extremely religious Christians who toss their teenagers out of the house or disown them for having sex out of wedlock--or even just getting caught with someone of the opposite sex. Or, you know, they also beat them to death...or, if the kids are lucky, near-death.

Stuff like this happens in every religion, everywhere around the world, for every kind of reason...this doesn't represent anything.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#291900[/url] ]I watched Sayed Hassan Nasrallah's speech in its entirety live on television. He is a man to be admired...not a terrorist in the very least. He stood up to one of the world's most powerful armies, and they did not back down. Israel was forced to withdraw...that is extremely admirable. Not only that but the majority of those who died on the Israeli side were mostly soldiers, who were sent out to the battlefield to risk death in any case. Israel cannot say the same thing about Lebanon. Over a thousand Lebanese civilian deaths, and we still bounced back--we still stood our ground and overcame yet another war.

Justice, I don't know if you wrote the article or if it was a cut-and-paste job...but seriously...that was an extremely biased representation of his speech. Then again, I'm used to this kind of representation on this site. I guess I'd be more surprised if you presented something objective for a change.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#292013[/url] ]Okay...so, what, you want me to see a beheading? (Now I'm glad I couldn't open the site, like I'd want to see something like that?!?!)

Are you asking whether a Muslim would behead someone? Why not? Hell, the guillotine was used excessively in France, and by Christians too, wasn't it?

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#292241[/url] ]Besides...I had long ago stopped trying to show you the true face of Islam, or hey, at least another point of view. You are a like brick wall with parrot-like qualities. You read what you want to, believe what you want to, and then parrot them over and over again like it is supposed to mean something.

:roll:

Believe what you want, Gary, it isn't going to affect my life or my beliefs in the least. I know what I'm doing and where I'm going. You have your own beliefs and religion and that's all fine and dandy, really, but don't go spitting out propaganda and exaggerations on another religion and pass it off as irrefutable fact. I happen to be close to a heckuva lot of Muslims--which is more than you can probably say. I know what they're like. Tell me honestly, how many do you know personally? How much have you delved into that hasn't been taken from anti-Islamic websites? Have you ever read the Qur'an with an open mind, instead of a mind hard-wired into believing that everything it is going to say is disgusting, violent and untrue?

You're one of those people I can't debate with, because there is no room for it. You already believe what you want to believe, and trying to make you see a different thing is like asking a tiger to take off its stripes.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#292446[/url] ]Muslims do very well believe that Jesus was a great prophet of God. Just like Moses or Abraham. This really has nothing to do with him being Muslim. How does that even logically work??? He's Jewish, and Muslims believe he is Jewish! The only non-Jewish prophet ever is Muhammad.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#292499[/url] ]I swear to God, I try to make my posts clear, Carey. I do. I have always been told I am articulate, but I'm starting to doubt it. Heh, either that, or you just don't absorb or understand what you are told all that well.

I've said it before...twice, I believe. I'll say it again, though, really, I have a feeling it's going to go RIGHT over your head again.

All these verses came down during times of WARFARE. There were wars against Islam when it first came out. Those who were against it were idolators, who worshipped idols, along with Jews and Christians. They were incited to fight against those who didn't believe, because those who didn't believe were fighting against them.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#292520[/url] ]Christians believe Jesus was the Son of God and divine, and that he died on the cross, was buried, then resurrected three days later.

Muslims believe Jesus was a great prophet, but not divine, and that He did not die on the cross, but was taken up to God and was replaced by Judas, the man who betrayed Him.

So if you say Jesus was the Son of God to a Muslim, they'll consider it blasphemous, because God is not to have any sons. Or daughters for that matter.

And if a Muslim says Jesus was not the Son of God, a Christian will consider it blasphemous.

It's funny when we debate this kind of thing, you know? You can never win...but it's fun.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#292538[/url] ]Why is comparing the Bible to another Holy Book blasphemous? What makes you so sure that the Bible is the only book that is the Holy inspired Word of God? You have nothing except the Bible to prove that the Bible is true...you have no outside sources, really. Correct me if I'm wrong.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#292549[/url] ]And, look, Carey, even if you do manage to get your hands on one, why does it matter? Even if circulating the Ka'bah was of pagan origins, it isn't now. Now it is used as a way to worship God. Jesus is a man of God, as are all other prophets. They should be sharing the same beliefs, because they all came from the same God, to spread God's message. Muslims believe they will spread Islam, Christians believe they will spread Christianity. And this is not surprising, of course people are going to believe that their religion is the one that is the correct one, the one that will have the victory in the end. However, we are merely people believing this and interpreting this from our respective Books. We don't know for sure what's really going to happen, only God does, so why do we spend so much energy tearing each other apart because we can't agree?

My philosophy:

Choose your religion, believe, and live. Let others do the same. If they are doing it peacefully and are hurting no one, let them do so. If they are promoting hate and murder, then act against them and bring them to justice. But don't generalize. You've only got one life to live, and it's just not worth nitpicking at things we really have no control or full knowledge over, no matter how much we like to believe that we do.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#294261[/url] ]He "knows his stuff"??????

I hardly agree with a lot of things you say, jgredline, but I always felt like you at least had a reasonable brain...

But if you think Carey "knows his stuff" which I take to mean he is well-informed and educated in his responses...

Well...

I feel sorry for you.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#294257[/url] ]Oh trust me, my friend.

I doubt anyone with a shred of brains on this board, or in this world for that matter, WANTS your help. It's like asking a person infected with the plague to cure you of a headache by rubbing his hands on your body.

Useless and stupid.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#294226[/url] ]Solo,

I read through your reply, and I don't have much against it.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... &start=135[/url] ]Solo,

You didn't answer my question. You just repeated what you usually say to anyone who questions your beliefs. Basically, I'm too blind or lost and haven't opened my heart to Jesus in order to see the light. In a way, you're superior to me because you know the "Truth" and I don't. You aren't making a very good case for yourself either, you just sound arrogant.

You said absolutely nothing pertaining to my question. If you have nothing pertaining specifically to this part of my previous post:

Why are you so adamant in believing that Islam is evil? What if you found out it wasn't? Would it leave you devastated? Disappointed? It seems you cannot even fathom the thought of Islam being a religion rooted in goodwill and tolerance and a beautiful relationship with God. You have not, in any post, said anything to the credit of Islam. (If you have, I haven't seen it and would appreciate links).

I mean, if I thought a religion or ideology was bad, and someone was showing me, through good resources and valid knowledge, that it was in fact, not what I thought...then I'd be very happy that there is one thing less in this world that is not so evil. Why do you want Islam to be evil so badly? Why?

Then say nothing. I don't need your little circular arguments that mean nothing at all to anyone with an ounce of brains. AHIMSA did an excellent job of answering...if you want to refute his/her post than by all means go ahead. But don't come back saying I'm blind or whatever--that is a futile and dead argument...you are defending nothing nor answering anything that I'm questioning.

Besides, you repeatedly miss a very crucial point. I am NOT saying Islam is the truth! I never, ever said that. I said that it is not what you think. I am saying that it is not necessarily better or more superior than Christianity, I am just saying it is not what you think. But you believe it is evil...why the determination to believe it is evil? Go ahead and continue to think that it is not The Way...but it doesn't have to be bad! So why do you insist on believing it is a murderous and horrible religion to partake in when it is not? This is my question!

So, either way, your above post holds no water. Either answer my question specifically or kindly be quiet. All you do is run around in circles, saying nothing new. I'd be more than happy to find you proving me wrong.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#295899[/url] ]Carey. I'm going to write this with the impression of one speaking slowly. I want to make sure you understand.

I...quoted...Oscar3.

When...I...quote...someone...it...means...my....reply...is...aimed...at...that...particular...someone.

Which...means...my...reply...was...aimed...at....Oscar3.

NOT YOU!

Understand?

Sheesh, I didn't even mention your name in my post--which you QUOTED!

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#296562[/url] ]Solo and Jgredline,

You haven't really said anything specific to refute Gendou's reasoning. It's true, we had NO control over our creation, and according to you, we were born sinful...which we also have no control over. So we are all doomed to Hell unless we recieve Jesus. What about those who haven't even heard of Him? Like those that live in the Amazon? Or those that live in countries of another religion and they have their own religion that they are very content with and think is a very good way and don't bother to research because they didn't know there COULD be another way?

Cases such as the ones I mentioned above are MANY. If these are all doomed to Hell because of their ignorance--which THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER...then this is a very cruel God we're speaking of. Convince me otherwise if you can. I'm open to it.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#296711[/url] ]I don't mean to sound ignorant...

But can you put in your own words along with the verses? First off, I find the verses a bit hard to follow, and I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

Look, God created us all, right? And, if I have it straight, we are all born sinful, right? That's why we have to find Jesus and be "born again" and thus we get the Holy Spirit and then follow Jesus, thus we are saved from Hell...right? If you are not "born again" you are doomed to Hell, no? Well, I still don't get how someone who has no idea who Jesus even is (like say someone who hunts and gathers in the Amazon) but leads a good and productive life finds himself in Hell. That is unbelievably cruel and I haven't found a good argument against that. Just be more specific, put in your own explanations in a way that would be easier to follow than one big Bible quotation.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#297527[/url] ]I believe that Carey and Solo think that only Christians pray for people's salvation, and only "true" Christians don't want to hurt anybody.

But if you're Muslim? You're a born killer, and if you don't want to hurt anybody, you're not a true Muslim...makes *so* much sense.

:roll:

Saudi Arabia is a horrible example of a Muslim country...they aren't really true Muslims to begin with--just extremists with their own twisted views on their own religion. Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say prowl the streets and yell at people who aren't covered right or whatever. They walk around like little yippy dogs...hardly examples of what Islam is.

I also can't believe the title of your thread to begin with...a couple of Muslim sites say something about a stupid soccer player and all of a sudden every Muslim on the planet is a filthy liar? Sheesh!

 

[Joudie]

Hm, you really did put a lot of time into this, eh? Hehe, thanks, really, for putting those up. It's interesting to read what I've written over the times.

You know...I'm not going to say anything. I'm probably the most biased one to speak to right now concerning this. You know what? I invite everyone, truly, to look over Solo's quotations of me, and tell me if you truly believe that I attack or bash Christianity. Or that I promote one religion over another. If you would like context for a particular quote, just ask. I'll be happy to give an honest answer.

No flaming though. Just a logical and honest opinion. I really do want to know how I, as a member for a substantial period of time, am percieved. Don't be shy, come out and tell me whatever you want! Atheists, non-Christians, lurkers, whatever...you all too! Come out and tell me what you think of this. I really, really want to know.

 

[AHIMSA]

All I see is Joudie disagreeing with Solo and other's harsh, radical fundamentalism. Nowhere is she trying to "seduce" others to any alternative faith or use any anti-Christian rhetoric.

Solo's reasoning here is well....absent.

 

[Rick W]

I would also appreciate a link or source (that you, Solo, are so fond of asking people to provide) of deep_thinking attacking Christianity or providing "anti-Christian rhetoric".

Just for clarification.
If there are any left then I haven't been doing my job. :
I've deleted pages of the stuff. Especially when he first got here.
He DID mellow out after a warning or three. One formal (from me) and several unofficial.