Marxist scientists and the Higgs Boson non-sense.

[Mike54321]

I think all Christians should be well aware, that the universities are absolutely FULL of marxist phonies, posing as scientists, many of them hold fake degrees, are the spreaders of the free-loving, fornicating ideals of Marxism. There are there to seduce young college girls and boys into Marxist atheism, as well as perverted sex.

First of all, understand that these experiments on the Higgs Boson, may have had 2000 scientists there, as tag-alongs, who are ready to cheer the findings as if they understand them. There are only a tiny handful of scientists, who actually get to observe the measurements of the machinery a the CERN facility.

Ok, here is the explanation of what the Higgs Boson particle is. A photon, decays into two particles, and the Higgs Boson particle pops out at the speed of light, and has 138 times the mass, of the Photon.

First of all, photons are a theoretical explanation of the mechanism of the propogation of light radiation. Nobody even knows if they are real or not, they are just made up, to make Einsteins theory, fit the measured data.

Lest you think, I am making this up, about how they make all this up, just read the wiki article, on what a 'virtual particle' is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_photons

If you aren't baffled by this, then you are most assuredly, a complete phony who doesn't even care what it says. You probabl didn't even bother to read it, but just wanted to jump on the side with the most haughty, arrogant dominating opinions.

Bosons are also imaginery particles, imagined and conjured up in Einstein's head, to explain how imaginary photons operate.

There is also, the Graviton, another made up particle, to explain gravity in terms of tiny particles of gravity. No I am not making this up, google 'graviton'.

yes, the entire field of subatomic physics is completely made up. You have all been duped, by fake Marxist scientists. How many fools have given up their faith in God, to follow these pseudo scientific rants of atheist Marxist homosexual pedophiles Satanists? How easily you are led astray, God does not want the foolish in his Kingdom.

 

[Grazer]

I am so lost for words that this is the only thing that sums up my reaction:

 

[Mike54321]

to try and sum it up very briefly, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, was created to explain why, we can never really measure anything, beyond a certain degree, simply because it is unmeasurable. Einsteinian physics is simply taking advantage of this loophole in real science, to create an entire new universe of made up fake science.

 

[Mike54321]

I am so lost for words that this is the only thing that sums up my reaction:

In other words, you have nothing to say, just a silly mocking reaction, you have no argument, no logic, no reason, just sneering wisecracks. Just as I expected from smart alec atheists.

For those who have never actually read the story of the Emperor's new clothes, I suggest you actually watch it on youtube.

Also, for all 40 IQ atheists, you should go and READ Darwin's book, the Origin of Species. Natural Selection, is only ONE of 4 major mechanisms of evolution, that Darwin explains. Sexual selection, as decribed by Darwin, IS intelligent design, it is conscious evolution.

You should also go READ the bible, not just comment on it.

 

[Grazer]

I am so lost for words that this is the only thing that sums up my reaction:

In other words, you have nothing to say, just a silly mocking reaction, you have no argument, no logic, just sneering wisecracks. Just as I expected from smart alec atheists.

But interestingly, I'm not an atheist and you haven't actually provided any evidence to support your claim. But it did amuse me so thank you

 

[Mike54321]

But interestingly, I'm not an atheist and you haven't actually provided any evidence to support your claim. But it did amuse me so thank you

My entire post was evidence to suppose my claim, you obviously didn't understand a word of it, just like you are incapable of understand a word of the article on 'virtual particles'. You are a typical atheist, you aren't really able to understand anything, so you just agree with the people who you identify with, in other words, mindless thugs and wicked conspirators

You think by 'debunking' or disagreeing with religious people, this makes you smarter, whether you are actually making any argument or not. Simply denying their statements, makes them feel like they have won, when they are really just disagreeable simpletons, with no knowledge of anything and no ability to reason.

 

[Grazer]

My entire post was evidence to suppose my claim, you obviously didn't understand a word of it, just like you are incapable of understand a word of the article on 'virtual particles'. You are a typical atheist, you aren't really able to understand anything, so you just agree with the people who you identify with.

So Wikipedia and your view is counted as evidence? Sorry, you need to do better than that. I'm sure there are some peer reviewed articles regarding this you could point to or at least a scientist or 2 who will support your claims.

Speaking of research, you might want to glance to the details under my username and you'll see that I am a Christian, not an atheist.

 

[Mike54321]

So Wikipedia and your view is counted as evidence? Sorry, you need to do better than that. I'm sure there are some peer reviewed articles regarding this you could point to or at least a scientist or 2 who will support your claims.

Speaking of research, you might want to glance to the details under my username and you'll see that I am a Christian, not an atheist.

wow, I guess that proves you're a christian.

Still, you have no logic, or reason to argue, only faith in what some high priest of Marxism tells you.

Blind stupid faith in Marxist atheism is known as 'science' to these evil bumpkins. They have money, and that is their ONLY means of judging ANYTHING, it is the ONLY thing they care about, that and their sex and drug addictions. They will DO ANYTHING, SAY ANYTHING, and believe anything, to get their drugs and pedophile sex, and their money. the money makes them feel like they aren't total wretches and despicable villains.

I can already predict, You will never once, form one sentence that shows you know anything about what the Higgs Boson particle really is, or is not. You don't even know what these liars pretend that it is.

You just enjoy pretending other people are the fools, when it's you who is the fool

 

[Mike54321]

A virtual particle is one that does not precisely obey the m2c4 = E2 − p2c2[3] relationship for a short time. In other words, its kinetic energy may not have the usual relationship to velocity–indeed, it can be negative. The probability amplitude for it to exist tends to be canceled out by destructive interference over longer distances and times. A virtual particle can be considered a manifestation of quantum tunnelling. The range of forces carried by virtual particles is limited by the uncertainty principle, which regards energy and time as conjugate variables; thus, virtual particles of larger mass have more limited range.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_photons

Here is one paragraph, AT RANDOM, from the wiki article on 'virtual particles'. Anyone who says they understand what this means is a lying demon decepticon. You can't understand what this means, because it is utter non-sense. It is just Satan puking on your brain, then laughing.

Einsteinian subatomic physics is non-sense, wrapped in idiocy, cloaked in chicanery.

 

[elizabethbraddock]

Why are you attacking Grazer and accusing him of being an atheist? He has already states that he is not an atheist.

You need to support your claim with evidence. Where are the studies that contradict quantum theory? Do you have scholarly, peer-reviewed articles written by scientists that contradict quantum theory?

It is not fake science. These particles are predicted mathematically, and then detected and observed when protons are collided, thus validating the predictions. They confirm a theory, which simply posits an explanation of observed phenomenon that is supported by data. A theory can always be invalidated by data that is contrary to it. So far, the observed phenomena validate the predictions of subatomic physics.

In fact, quantum mechanics is real enough to provide real-world applications. For example, the transistor was able to be developed because of the understanding of the dual wave/particle nature of electrons that allow them to tunnel through barriers; this understanding of the dual nature of electrons was necessary for scientists to learn how to control how current flowed through a transistor.

Lasers are also another practical application of quantum theory. Lasers rely on the stimulated release of photons to produce the observed amplified light. The electrons orbiting an atom are excited, causing them to go into a higher energy orbit; they return to their lower orbits, releasing a photon that then stimulates other surrounding atoms to release photons of the same energy level and direction, creating a steady stream of photons that we observe as a laser beam. The entire process is only possible because of the founding principle of quantum mechanics, which is that atomic energy levels are discrete rather than continuous. When atoms radiate energy, they do so in discrete packets called quanta.

These things can be observed, and have a solid enough foundation that we can use them in practical applications.

 

[reba]

Whoa guys any more and this thread will be closed for moderator review!

As it is i am submitting a request for review to the science moderator now. reba

 

[Grazer]

Elizabeth, my facepalm picture probably didn't help lol

 

[Mike54321]

children, do you think, that the demons of the anti-christ, would not return to you, posing as 'scientists', and use this false religion to seduce you into destruction?

But I cannot stop you from falling in love with Satan's lies, it is your free will, to feel what you feel, and thus, to think what you think.

It feels good, to play along with Satan, to play wicked make-believe, you all feel powerful and part of this wicked world system, which you obviously love dearly.

the fact is, God created every photon and makes it behave how it behaves, every electron is 'negative' charged, every proton is ' positive' charged, negative, positive, what is even the real meaning of these two forces, other than they are opposite forces? these forces have no mass, no spin, no quantifiable properties, they simply are, because God creates it. Matter only exists, as an illusion, as all religions say. You are hypnotized, by the evil of Maya, the illusion of this material world. it is playing tricks on you.

 

[Mike54321]

Why are you attacking Grazer and accusing him of being an atheist? He has already states that he is not an atheist.

You need to support your claim with evidence. Where are the studies that contradict quantum theory? Do you have scholarly, peer-reviewed articles written by scientists that contradict quantum theory?

It is not fake science. These particles are predicted mathematically, and then detected and observed when protons are collided, thus validating the predictions. They confirm a theory, which simply posits an explanation of observed phenomenon that is supported by data. A theory can always be invalidated by data that is contrary to it. So far, the observed phenomena validate the predictions of subatomic physics.

In fact, quantum mechanics is real enough to provide real-world applications. For example, the transistor was able to be developed because of the understanding of the dual wave/particle nature of electrons that allow them to tunnel through barriers; this understanding of the dual nature of electrons was necessary for scientists to learn how to control how current flowed through a transistor.

Lasers are also another practical application of quantum theory. Lasers rely on the stimulated release of photons to produce the observed amplified light. The electrons orbiting an atom are excited, causing them to go into a higher energy orbit; they return to their lower orbits, releasing a photon that then stimulates other surrounding atoms to release photons of the same energy level and direction, creating a steady stream of photons that we observe as a laser beam. The entire process is only possible because of the founding principle of quantum mechanics, which is that atomic energy levels are discrete rather than continuous. When atoms radiate energy, they do so in discrete packets called quanta.

These things can be observed, and have a solid enough foundation that we can use them in practical applications.

this is a very well thought out post, very reasonable.

anyone can see waves in the ocean, they are energy waves, traveling through an infinite number of water molecules. sound waves travel through the air, which is made up of a infinite number of air molecules. The waves themselves, are not particles, but the energy is transmitted, through the particles.

People have long wondered what the medium is, thorugh which electromagnetic radiation travels, they have called it the ether, of space, but there is nothing there. Maybe an infinite number of tiny particles, we can never measure, just as we can't see the individual water molecules, when we see ocean waves.

At some point, you have to just say, it is all really an illusion, there is nothing really there. God.

 

[Atothetheist]

And this... Well this is just something unheard of. There are many things I learn on This forum, and it is that Christians DO stand up for science! Nice job guys



(No sarcasm.)

 

[DarkHorseRising]

I think all Christians should be well aware, that the universities are absolutely FULL of marxist phonies, posing as scientists, many of them hold fake degrees, are the spreaders of the free-loving, fornicating ideals of Marxism.

Really? Because between the two departments I'm majoring in, there's probably ~80-100 faculty, and I have yet to meet anyone espousing marxism. What is your basis for this assertion, besides a dislike of scientists?

There are there to seduce young college girls and boys into Marxist atheism, as well as perverted sex.

My friend, I am sharing this with my lab group. They will all get a nice laugh out of it. Since nobody here is going to take such a statement seriously, there's little need to respond.

First of all, understand that these experiments on the Higgs Boson, may have had 2000 scientists there, as tag-alongs, who are ready to cheer the findings as if they understand them. There are only a tiny handful of scientists, who actually get to observe the measurements of the machinery a the CERN facility.

No and no. Science is a collaborative discipline, it's not done by some guy alone in his castle's tower at midnight. For such an endeavor, many hundreds of scientists are needed, for machine setup, calibration, experiment design, statistics, and countless other tasks.

And the measurements will be seen not just by everyone at CERN, but published in peer-previewed journals and discussed by scientists around the world.

Ok, here is the explanation of what the Higgs Boson particle is. A photon, decays into two particles, and the Higgs Boson particle pops out at the speed of light, and has 138 times the mass, of the Photon.

No... just, no... that's not an explanation of anything.

First of all, photons are a theoretical explanation of the mechanism of the propogation of light radiation. Nobody even knows if they are real or not, they are just made up, to make Einsteins theory, fit the measured data.

Actually, we've had evidence of photons since the 20's. Max Plank and some other guy (don't remember him but he won a Nobel prize I believe) measured their charges empirically.

Lest you think, I am making this up, about how they make all this up, just read the wiki article, on what a 'virtual particle' is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_photons

No, I will not read a wikipedia article on anything. Wikipedia is edited by anyone. I get my information from scientific journals and other scholarly publications, and from the Bible.

If you aren't baffled by this, then you are most assuredly, a complete phony who doesn't even care what it says. You probabl didn't even bother to read it, but just wanted to jump on the side with the most haughty, arrogant dominating opinions.

Agreement with wikipedia is the litmus test for someone's authenticity and integrity? I know you stopped being serious long ago, but this is just silly.

Bosons are also imaginery particles, imagined and conjured up in Einstein's head, to explain how imaginary photons operate.

So how did these imaginary particles get measured by CERN? That's quite an accomplishment for a fictional entity.

There is also, the Graviton, another made up particle, to explain gravity in terms of tiny particles of gravity. No I am not making this up, google 'graviton'.

Graviton, unlike the other mentioned particles, is still theoretical as it has not yet been measured or accounted for. Out of curiosity, do you have an alternate hypothesis for how matter attracts itself to each other?

yes, the entire field of subatomic physics is completely made up. You have all been duped, by fake Marxist scientists. How many fools have given up their faith in God, to follow these pseudo scientific rants of atheist Marxist homosexual pedophiles Satanists? How easily you are led astray, God does not want the foolish in his Kingdom.

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[elizabethbraddock]

And this... Well this is just something unheard of. There are many things I learn on This forum, and it is that Christians DO stand up for science! Nice job guys



(No sarcasm.)

Thanks. Not all Christians are anti-science/anti-intellectual. I am a physician/scientist in training. Personally, I do not see any contradiction between Christianity and science. Both sides of the camp speak as if there were separate biological/physical evidences either for or against God, but really, there aren't separate sets of evidence. It is merely our interpretation of that evidence that differs. I think even the most hard-pressed skeptic would agree that one's pre-existing worldview will shape how they interpret the evidence. My worldview is based on Scripture and my belief in God, and as Louis Pasteur said, "The more I study nature, the more in awe I stand of the Creator."

 

[farouk]

Thanks. Not all Christians are anti-science/anti-intellectual. I am a physician/scientist in training. Personally, I do not see any contradiction between being a Christianity and science. Both sides of the camp speak as if there were separate biological/physical evidences either for or against God, but really, there aren't separate sets of evidence. It is merely our interpretation of that evidence that differs. I think even the most hard-pressed skeptic would agree that one's pre-existing worldview will shape how they interpret the evidence. My worldview is based on Scripture and my belief in God, and as Louis Pasteur said, "The more I study nature, the more in awe I stand of the Creator."

elizabethbraddock:

You are exactly right about Scripture being the bedrock of the believer's outlook.

Blessings.

 

[Mike54321]

And this... Well this is just something unheard of. There are many things I learn on This forum, and it is that Christians DO stand up for science! Nice job guys



(No sarcasm.)

Look, the devil is congratulating you, you must be so proud of yourselves.

Just replace the word 'science' with 'satan' and there you have the truth.

 

[Atothetheist]

Thanks. Not all Christians are anti-science/anti-intellectual. I am a physician/scientist in training. Personally, I do not see any contradiction between being a Christianity and science. Both sides of the camp speak as if there were separate biological/physical evidences either for or against God, but really, there aren't separate sets of evidence. It is merely our interpretation of that evidence that differs. I think even the most hard-pressed skeptic would agree that one's pre-existing worldview will shape how they interpret the evidence. My worldview is based on Scripture and my belief in God, and as Louis Pasteur said, "The more I study nature, the more in awe I stand of the Creator."

Well certainly. Everybody is prone to bias. I am quite glad you can, and do, stand up for science and intelligence. Though, I may not agree with you on a spiritual level, I can certainly agree with you on a logical level.

Atheists like me do not give you guys enough credit when you guys should, good job.