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Meaning of life, of humans.

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diviana

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I have a question that keeps bugging me for a while. We a have God, God almighty that knows everything. He knew before creating humans, that they will sin, and that they will go to hell. Now, my question is: why did God create humans even though He knew they will end up suffering and going to Hell? What's the meaning and purpose of humans?
 
diviana said:
I have a question that keeps bugging me for a while. We a have God, God almighty that knows everything. He knew before creating humans, that they will sin, and that they will go to hell. Now, my question is: why did God create humans even though He knew they will end up suffering and going to Hell? What's the meaning and purpose of humans?

Diviana,

You ask a valid question that likely a number of both believing and un-believing alike have asked at some point. In truth, I can only answer this way.

God wanted someone to love. Think....being all powerful...would it not get a little lonely? In a way, our relationship with God is very much like those we have from day to day with others. Without companionship, we tend to be rather discontent with things. Perhaps such could be possible for God, Himself?

Why did He make us knowing some of us would go to Hell? The only answer I can give here is this.

What love is there if it is not freely given rather than made to be so or forced? Can love truly be genuine if we were all made loving God? Simple truth is...No. We were each given free will so that we might come to choose to love Him as He first loved us.

I know this may not make much sense to you or I may very well sound like I am rambling. For that I apologize. I am but a babe in faith....a child who has much yet still to learn. This is however, what God has laid on my heart to share with you. Hope you get something out of it. If not, that perhaps someone else here might be able to give you the answers you seek.

May God Bless You

Danielle
 
diviana said:
I have a question that keeps bugging me for a while. We a have God, God almighty that knows everything. He knew before creating humans, that they will sin, and that they will go to hell. Now, my question is: why did God create humans even though He knew they will end up suffering and going to Hell? What's the meaning and purpose of humans?

MY COMMENTS: Some good questions, diviana, and, in my opinion traditional theology doesn't have the answer. According to the popular theology, Satan, though winding up in the lake of fire, seemingly gets the last laugh, for he has 'won' the great majority of mankind to his side.

But, that is not what I have learned and now believe by examining the literal (more true) meaning of the Scriptures.

Yes, God is sovereign, all powerful, all knowing and all loving.

Through Christ, all things were created by God: All spirit beings, whether good or evil; all humans; and all matter, energy, space and time.

I believe that God is using evil for his own purpose during the ages, for at the end of the ages good will triumph over evil, and there will be no more death or sin in the universe. And this will happen because God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son to pay the price for the sin of the world. And Christ's sacrifice not only has taken away the sin of the world, but also through him God is pleased to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, bring peace.

Please read Philippians 2:5-11 and Colossians 1:15-20.

As for the lost souls suffering eternally in 'hell', there is nothing like that in a more correct literal translation, such as Young's or Rotherham's.

If you have a complete concordance to the Bible you will find in the NT that "hell" is used for "geenna" 11 times in the Gospels. "Geenna"- Greek from "Gehenna"-Hebrew, was a site outside the walls of Jerusalem, where the city garbage and offal was thrown. It was kept burning to help purify the air and reduce the stench. Whatever wasn't burned up was eaten by maggots.
Our Lord warned his disciples and the multitudes about certain sins that, if convicted, one could be sentenced to the fires of geenna. This was the worst kind of sentence for a Jew, for after being stoned to death his body would be cast into geenna. I have heard they believed the body needed to be buried whole to be resurrected.

The Biblical meaning of "Hades" is literally, "unseen." Depending on the context it could be translated "unseen" or "the grave." But, it has nothing to do with a place of burning sulfur.
It occurs 9 places and is called "hell" primarily in the KJV. All the other versions I have seen use "death" or "unseen."

Another place the KJV uses "hell" is in 2 Pet. 2:4. The word is "Tartarus" in the Greek, which is a place of gloom and darkness; nothing to do with a burning fire.

"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] unto chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; "

All for now
 
diviana said:
I have a question that keeps bugging me for a while. We a have God, God almighty that knows everything. He knew before creating humans, that they will sin, and that they will go to hell. Now, my question is: why did God create humans even though He knew they will end up suffering and going to Hell? What's the meaning and purpose of humans?

Diviana. Where does scripture say ' . . . they will go to hell'?

Do you think a righteous, just and loving God would condemn a person to an eternity of suffering through no fault of their own?
 
Danielle,

You are 'closer' than you may think to that which we were MEANT to BE.

God created 'children'. Just as WE, created in His image, create our own. And how many out there do NOT 'love their children'?

We were created OUT OF LOVE. We have been offered the ulimate example of that love. But many choose not to SEE IT or LEARN of it.

I don't know if 'hell' was 'created' in the sense that many seem to label it AS 'a creation'. I believe that the PLACE that many consider to BE hell is a place that was created MORE by Satan than by God. ALL THINGS were MADE by God, but some 'things' are NOT 'material in nature' and therefore are results of creation rather than 'things' that were created.

Satan was 'cast out' and the PLACE that he was 'cast into' became what many choose to 'label'; hell.
But if we read The Word and place the word 'hell' in it's proper place, we find that hell is nothing other than 'the grave'. A place that we all 'sleep' before being 'risen again'.

But that 'place' that Satan resides, 'whatever it's name is', that was created, (I believe), by Satan himself. It is HIS kingdom that was brought about by HIS desires.

And Danielle, once again, you often show a wisdom and understanding that goes well beyond what MOST seem to grasp. While each of us is unable to come to a COMPLETE understanding of EVERYTHING, you have set yourself on a 'path' that IS leading to that 'perfect understanding' that we have been TOLD that we ARE able to obtain. That being; LOVE.

Blessings,

MEC
 
diviana said:
I have a question that keeps bugging me for a while. We a have God, God almighty that knows everything. He knew before creating humans, that they will sin, and that they will go to hell. Now, my question is: why did God create humans even though He knew they will end up suffering and going to Hell? What's the meaning and purpose of humans?


He did not create human race to die or suffer that is selfinflicted by ourselves for Adam (if he had not sinned he would never have died) down today:-

Deuteronomy 32:4-5
The Rock, perfect is his activity, For all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness, with whom there is no injustice; Righteous and upright is he.  5 They have acted ruinously on their own part; They are not his children, the defect is their own. A generation crooked and twisted!

Our Purpose is:-

Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the [true] God and keep his commandments. For this is the whole [obligation] of man. 14 For the [true] God himself will bring every sort of work into the judgment in relation to every hidden thing, as to whether it is good or bad.
 
mutzrein said:
diviana said:
I have a question that keeps bugging me for a while. We a have God, God almighty that knows everything. He knew before creating humans, that they will sin, and that they will go to hell. Now, my question is: why did God create humans even though He knew they will end up suffering and going to Hell? What's the meaning and purpose of humans?

Diviana. Where does scripture say ' . . . they will go to hell'?

Do you think a righteous, just and loving God would condemn a person to an eternity of suffering through no fault of their own?
Well that was my quetion, He knew that people will do mistakes and sins ...
 
To BICK:

What you said there has a good point. After posting this message, i kept meditating about Hell. I knew that the word hell is not specified in the Bible, not even in my language. So i did a little bit of an analogy implying some negative feelings humans have. For me, the most powerful negative feeling is remorse. Hell is a suffering place, because you are feeling the lack of God's presence. Something like what Jesus felt when He was on the cross with all sin upon him and feeling the emptiness, separation from God. Hell might be the feeling of remorse, that you didn't believe in God and now you cannot be with him. Or a total desperation and wanting to go back in time ... i guess everyone felt that at least one time in his lifetime. Hell might be that. We, on earth, do not feel the absence of God but if He weren't among us ... Hmmm ... and thought about why He created us ... All the answers here made me think and as the Bible says about God the Father, i actually thought about Him as a father. Then thought about me, a woman capable having children on my own on a certain point in my life. I would love to have children so i can share my joy of being with them, watching them, loving them, watch them grow up, and for instance, if i were to have two boys and one would be a good boy and one a bad boy, that causes only trouble, and knowing this in advance would I give them birth? Yes. I would love both the same. So it might have been with God.

Hmmm i came to the conclusion that i am too limited to understand Him so I stopped question Him.

Waiting for replies ... what do you think?
 
diviana said:
mutzrein said:
diviana said:
I have a question that keeps bugging me for a while. We a have God, God almighty that knows everything. He knew before creating humans, that they will sin, and that they will go to hell. Now, my question is: why did God create humans even though He knew they will end up suffering and going to Hell? What's the meaning and purpose of humans?

Diviana. Where does scripture say ' . . . they will go to hell'?

Do you think a righteous, just and loving God would condemn a person to an eternity of suffering through no fault of their own?
Well that was my quetion, He knew that people will do mistakes and sins ...

The premise of most of Christendom is that the good go to heaven and the bad go to hell. ie if you don't accept Christ as your saviour then you go to hell - irrespective of whether or not one has even heard of Christ.

Well, I don't. Everyone is born in sin. We are born 'dead'. Since it is the Spirit of God that affords man life, those who are given it, enter the kingdom of heaven - which is eternal life. However, I believe that those who are not given life, remain 'dead'. These don't inherit eternal life, but perish as scripture confirms. How can man live for ever in heaven (or hell) if he hasn't been given eternal life?
 
Hello diviana, your post title intrigued me. I am living and breathing the topic of meaning in life with my dissertation right now and just created a course on this topic. Be blessed.
 
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