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Knotical

Knotical

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This is for the more tech savvy of us. I am looking to upgrade the RAM in my laptop and need to figure out what the differences are between a couple of cards that I have found.

I have a HP Pavilion g6 laptop. I have looked up what memory is compatible for it and what the capacity is. I have determined I have room for one more card, and this is the description of what is compatible:

204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM

Based on this I have found two different cards that seem to be what I need, but there are differences that are basically written in another language. Here are the two cards I have found:

G.SKILL 4GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Laptop Memory Model F3-8500CL7S-4GBSQ
G.SKILL 4GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Laptop Memory Model F3-10600CL9S-4GBSQ

These, obviously look similar, but there are also obvious differences. Anyone know how to translate this and inform us less tech savvy individuals what this really means?
 
Thanks, thought that article is over 6 years old. Though some of the information is helpful as a foundation, things have progressed quite a bit since then. I am really trying to figure out the difference between 1066 and 1333, and whether it would be a good idea to just buy two new RAM cards or buy one and install it in the open slot.
 
Knotical said:
Thanks, thought that article is over 6 years old. Though some of the information is helpful as a foundation, things have progressed quite a bit since then. I am really trying to figure out the difference between 1066 and 1333, and whether it would be a good idea to just buy two new RAM cards or buy one and install it in the open slot.
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What does you MOBO specs say ? and what are you running a 64 bit or 32 bit ? Well I see that you have a 64 bit so you your model does support 8 GB's so 4 GB a slot, It should support up to 16 GB, but I have to look and see. And I was just trying to give you some basics with the articles.
 
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With the advent of DDR 2 the faster RAM, in this case the 1333 wóuld clock back to the same speed as the slower stick at 1066 mhz. Those numbers are the frequency speed they run at and the higher the number the better.

Ask at your local dealer, they will tell you the truth but I do not see the third generation of DDR RAM going backwards on a feature. And if I'm right the faster will clovk back but you will still be very impressed withg the speed increase by doubling your RAM. The only way you will know the difference is if you stop watch a start up with one 1066 on board with one 1333 and then place both 1333 sticks in and stop watch it again.

The short of it is it is going to go zzzzip! either way if they have not gone backwards with the new sticks.
 
taylor his machine can support DDR 3's

And the difference is the speed and or latency between the 1066 and the 1333 but the speed between them, you will not notice a thing. But do not mix them use one type for the dual slots, because if you mix them a few things could happen, I have seen machines not boot at all or the machine will slow down or keep crashing. Your 1333 mhz is the higher latency
 
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taylor his machine can support DDR 3's

And the difference is the speed and or latency between the 1066 and the 1333 but the speed between them, you will not notice a thing. But do not mix them use one type for the dual slots, because if you mix them a few things could happen, I have seen machines not boot at all or the machine will slow down or keep crashing. Your 1333 mhz is the higher latency
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Thank you, I have only played with one unit with third generation DDR and I have not researched the RAM at all since DDR 2. There is a lot of knowledge on this forum though and that is a good thing.
 
Yup, I am running Windows 8.1, which is 64bit. Currently, I am running what it came with, which is one 4gb RAM stick. So what I am gathering is I am better off buying two 4gb ram sticks, than run the risk of having two different sticks in there. Besides, newer is better, right?
 
If your one 4GB stick is okay get another one just like it.
 
Not sure if that is possible, as the one I have came with the laptop, and it is well over 2 years old. I will just have to open it up and check.
 
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Not sure if that is possible, as the one I have came with the laptop, and it is well over 2 years old. I will just have to open it up and check.
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You can get another one or you can just buy 2 more. But when you open that little RAM bay cover in the back you will see what the other one is and what company made it, and then you just get another one from online or at a store.
 
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Yup, I am running Windows 8.1, which is 64bit. Currently, I am running what it came with, which is one 4gb RAM stick. So what I am gathering is I am better off buying two 4gb ram sticks, than run the risk of having two different sticks in there. Besides, newer is better, right?
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If RAM is still holding the traits I am familiar with you should be able to purchase a matched set for the best performance. I have never, personally worried over such because the performance of two sticks of the same brand and type, not matched nor in a single package, perform very well when I do graphics or photo work. But I have had Photographers chastise me for not running the very best.

The unit I'm on right now is an HP 400-224 Slim Line that came with 6 gig of RAM and Windoze 8.1. I had experienced one major fault with another, it was a Toshiba Lap Top running 8.1 when I was doing some Graphics work for a friend to present to His employer where at about 90% finished, windoze dumped all of the work, even the saved portions.

Then My wife and daughter replaced my dying Desk Top with the HP that is a Lap Top in a Slim Line Box for the desk top. After loosing two photo jobs that were better than half finished, I, completely, dumped Win 8 and went to Ubuntu only.

I did read a white paper, somewhere on line, that MS published, I believe, that people with any version of 8 will be awarded, free, a copy of Win 10 when released. I seem to recall that win 7 owners can also upgrade free but I will hold my breath there.
 
No they don't have to be the same brand, they have to match mhz if you have a 1333 get another one, they don't have to be the same brand.
 
th1b.taylor said:
If RAM is still holding the traits I am familiar with you should be able to purchase a matched set for the best performance. I have never, personally worried over such because the performance of two sticks of the same brand and type, not matched nor in a single package, perform very well when I do graphics or photo work. But I have had Photographers chastise me for not running the very best.

The unit I'm on right now is an HP 400-224 Slim Line that came with 6 gig of RAM and Windoze 8.1. I had experienced one major fault with another, it was a Toshiba Lap Top running 8.1 when I was doing some Graphics work for a friend to present to His employer where at about 90% finished, windoze dumped all of the work, even the saved portions.

Then My wife and daughter replaced my dying Desk Top with the HP that is a Lap Top in a Slim Line Box for the desk top. After loosing two photo jobs that were better than half finished, I, completely, dumped Win 8 and went to Ubuntu only.

I did read a white paper, somewhere on line, that MS published, I believe, that people with any version of 8 will be awarded, free, a copy of Win 10 when released. I seem to recall that win 7 owners can also upgrade free but I will hold my breath there.
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Sounds like you fell victim to the problem of not saving your data on a separate drive than the one your OS was on. I usually partition all of my hard drives if I am going to save files on the same one the OS is on. Because you are able to still retrieve, more often than not, your files off of the partition you placed your files on, even if the partition that is housing the OS goes kaput.
 
Looks like I will be ordering a couple of RAM sticks, along with a new battery for my laptop. The battery finally gave it up. Now the machine will not even run if the power cord is not plugged in.

The challenges of aging electronics.
 
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Sounds like you fell victim to the problem of not saving your data on a separate drive than the one your OS was on. I usually partition all of my hard drives if I am going to save files on the same one the OS is on. Because you are able to still retrieve, more often than not, your files off of the partition you placed your files on, even if the partition that is housing the OS goes kaput.
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No, every five minutes it was saved, on both machines using an egg timer so as to not forget. That would be an amateur mistake and I have been doing computer graphics for about twenty years now. 8.1, on both machines dumped even the saved work without even crashing, just poof, gone. And when I researched it had happened to others in their recounts of 8 and 8.1... that does help or should help one to understand why MS is planning to upgrade from 8 and 8.1 to 10, free.

MS routinely produces junk and with 7 and with 8, they did really bad.
 
Taylor I would say that 7 is better than 8 it was more stable to me and countless others. But in a couple of months I am going to get a iMac
 
I received a refurbed T400 Thinkpad for Christmas with an OEM win 7 on it and I am dual booting it but it is my conclusion that when MS merged Vista and XP to replace the Longhorn project that was to be 7, they really did the pooch a number. Longhorn was testing great and they trashed it.
 
Knotical said:
Looks like I will be ordering a couple of RAM sticks, along with a new battery for my laptop. The battery finally gave it up. Now the machine will not even run if the power cord is not plugged in.

The challenges of aging electronics.
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Is your CMOS messing up ?
 
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