Missing The Mark (Sin) vs. Practice Sinning

[iLOVE]

What is the difference between "missing the mark" daily with sin and "practice sinning"?

Are some sins worse than others or are they equal?

What is a reprobate mind?

Should the Christian Believer confess and repent for their sins daily?

How does Grace help us from sinning less?

Please give examples.

 

[iLOVE]

"Missing the mark" - All Christian believer sin daily by either thought, word, and deed.

"Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; Acts 3:19. Remain obedient to the faith by remembering God’s promise to be merciful. This opens the door for God to fulfill the other “I wills…” that He promises in Hebrews 8. God is now able to do for you what you have been unable to do for yourself: conquer the sin in your life! What powerful grace!

Continue to remember that your sins have been purged. Let no condemnation or guilt prevent you from being obedient to this faith. Right believing will lead you to right living, and this allows God to keep showing up in your life, working all things for your good. Believer, from now and until you leave this earth, let your consciousness be sealed in knowing that you are the righteousness of God.

Warning: Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. (Galatians 6:7)
Example: A Christian believer married man backslides and commits adultery. His sin has consequences; divorce, sexual transmitted disease, child out of wedlock, child support, and abortion.

 

[Guest]

"Missing the mark" - All Christian believer sin daily by either thought, word, and deed.

"Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord

How do we repent every day. What is a good way to repent? Pray at night before bed? Is there any mental or physical changes that go along with repenting. How does repenting from sin work with a believer. How do we repent and make it sincere, blessings.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

His sin has consequences; divorce, sexual transmitted disease, child out of wedlock, child support, and abortion.

In that order?


(I want to post later when I have time)

 

[iLOVE]

"Missing the mark" - All Christian believer sin daily by either thought, word, and deed.

"Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord

How do we repent every day. What is a good way to repent? Pray at night before bed? Is there any mental or physical changes that go along with repenting. How does repenting from sin work with a believer. How do we repent and make it sincere, blessings.

Whoever conceals their sins does not prosper, but the one who confesses and renounces them finds mercy. Proverbs 28:13

If we don't repent you make the Cross of Christ ineffective. If we are are to fix any problems we must not void out the Cross. The only reason Jesus died was to take upon the sins of the world. He only died for sin(s). The Cross isn't there for no other reason but sin. To fix any problem that exist in your life you must understand the problem and locate the sin behind it.
Asking God to use his power to help you with anything without repenting is useless. God will never dishonor his Son Jesus to help you. If you are born again, you can be forgiven as often as you ask. Yes, at times you will make decisions that fall short of the standards God has set in His Word but don’t beat yourself up about it. Instead, exercise your right to be free from sin through repentance and forgiveness, and immediately begin renewing your mind so that you can make the right choices.

 

[dadof10]

What is the difference between "missing the mark" daily with sin and "practice sinning"?

Are some sins worse than others or are they equal?

"If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal." (1Jn. 5)

Not all sin is the same.

 

[iLOVE]

What is the difference between "missing the mark" daily with sin and "practice sinning"?

Are some sins worse than others or are they equal?

"If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal." (1Jn. 5)

Not all sin is the same.

Please give an example.

 

[dadof10]

What is the difference between "missing the mark" daily with sin and "practice sinning"?

Are some sins worse than others or are they equal?

"If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal." (1Jn. 5)

Not all sin is the same.

Please give an example.

An example of what, a mortal sin? Murder, adultery, coveting goods, bearing false witness, you know, the big ten. An example of non-mortal sin? I guess, cussing, hurtful language, anger, lack of charity, things not listed in the Ten Commandments.

Do you agree with John, that not all sin is mortal, or are you still on the fence?

 

[iLOVE]

What is the difference between "missing the mark" daily with sin and "practice sinning"?

Are some sins worse than others or are they equal?

"If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal." (1Jn. 5)

Not all sin is the same.

Please give an example.

An example of what, a mortal sin? Murder, adultery, coveting goods, bearing false witness, you know, the big ten. An example of non-mortal sin? I guess, cussing, hurtful language, anger, lack of charity, things not listed in the Ten Commandments.

Do you agree with John, that not all sin is mortal, or are you still on the fence?

There is different levels of sin for the un-saved. As for the born-again Christian all sins expect for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is forgiven and not remembered if you repent.

 

[dadof10]

Please give an example.

An example of what, a mortal sin? Murder, adultery, coveting goods, bearing false witness, you know, the big ten. An example of non-mortal sin? I guess, cussing, hurtful language, anger, lack of charity, things not listed in the Ten Commandments.

Do you agree with John, that not all sin is mortal, or are you still on the fence?

There is different levels of sin for the un-saved. As for the born-again Christian all sins expect for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is forgiven and not remembered if you repent.

Uhhh....No. Not according to John, anyway.

"I write this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life." (1Jn. 5:13)

John is writing to believers here. He goes on to say:

"If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin,..."

I don't think John was in the habit of calling "unbelievers", "brothers", do you?

 

[Deborah13]

There is sin which is mortal

1 John5 KJV
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

sin is singular, in the GK interlinear Bible I use online, in this verse so translated (a sin)

not saying for sure it's correct but would like to just quickly ask the wiser than me ones, what they believe this sin to be. Thanks
Hope that is OK iLove......I know I a little off topic...

 

[Deborah13]

mortal. There is sin which is mortal

Is this physical death...or spiritual death?

I think there are instances in the Scriptures where God took someone's physical life but they did not loose their salvation?

 

[gr8grace]

There is sin which is mortal

1 John5 KJV
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

sin is singular, in the GK interlinear Bible I use online, in this verse so translated (a sin)

not saying for sure it's correct but would like to just quickly ask the wiser than me ones, what they believe this sin to be. Thanks
Hope that is OK iLove......I know I a little off topic...

Hi Deb,
From my studies, the sin in question is living independently from God after salvation. It does not have to be some overt sin. Overt sins may be involved, but it is a habitual lifestyle of saying NO to Gods particular plan for the believer.

It is not anything that happens overnight. It is a constant habitual life of saying NO to Gods plan for ones life. IMO we would be shocked if it was revealed to us who are actually living this "sin"

We have a tendency to focus on the nasty overt sins that we can see. And we cannot "see" someone who is living a nice moral lifestyle, but is saying NO to Gods plan for their life.
The believers salvation is never in question though. Gods promise saves us, never the believers behavior. I know you know that one.

 

[Deborah13]

Hi Deb,
From my studies, the sin in question is living independently from God after salvation.

Thank you for the response. Can you help me with the "I do not say he shall pray for it"? Is this saying not to pray that the person die?

 

[gr8grace]

Hi Deb,
From my studies, the sin in question is living independently from God after salvation.

Thank you for the response. Can you help me with the "I do not say he shall pray for it"? Is this saying not to pray that the person die?

Yes, that is my take on it. That decision is the Lords only. It is not for us to decide(or to even think about), thank God!
It is the maximum divine discipline from God, for the believer.

That's why he begins this teaching with 1 john 5:13.

 

[dadof10]

There is sin which is mortal

1 John5 KJV
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

sin is singular, in the GK interlinear Bible I use online, in this verse so translated (a sin)

not saying for sure it's correct but would like to just quickly ask the wiser than me ones, what they believe this sin to be. Thanks
Hope that is OK iLove......I know I a little off topic...

The word used here (hamartia) is simply "sin", singular, not A sin. I looked it up in Thayers and it's translated 172 times as "sin" or "sins". Here are some other verses with the word "hamartia" (#266) used.

"The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin (hamartia) of the world!" (John 1:29)

"For sin (hamartia) will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace." (Rom. 6:14)

There are many more, in fact I can't find one of the 172 instances that translate it "a sin" except 1Jn. 5, although, I didn't look at all 172.

This one is interesting because it is translates as "sins" (plural) and then "sin" (singular) in the same sentence, in the same LETTER, 1John.

"You know that he appeared to take away sins (hamarita), and in him there is no sin (hamartia)." (1Jn. 3:5)

So, I really don't know if there is some small qualifying dot or something that makes Thayer's translate the word "a sin" ONLY in 1Jn. 5 or it's INTERPRETATION as opposed to translation. FWIW...

 

[dadof10]

There is sin which is mortal

1 John5 KJV
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

sin is singular, in the GK interlinear Bible I use online, in this verse so translated (a sin)

not saying for sure it's correct but would like to just quickly ask the wiser than me ones, what they believe this sin to be. Thanks
Hope that is OK iLove......I know I a little off topic...

Hi Deb,
From my studies, the sin in question is living independently from God after salvation.

Do you think John means only one specific sin instead of "sin" in general here?

It does not have to be some overt sin. Overt sins may be involved, but it is a habitual lifestyle of saying NO to Gods particular plan for the believer.

It is not anything that happens overnight. It is a constant habitual life of saying NO to Gods plan for ones life. IMO we would be shocked if it was revealed to us who are actually living this "sin"

We have a tendency to focus on the nasty overt sins that we can see. And we cannot "see" someone who is living a nice moral lifestyle, but is saying NO to Gods plan for their life.
The believers salvation is never in question though. Gods promise saves us, never the believers behavior. I know you know that one.

What do you think "mortal" or "deadly" means if it doesn't mean it will kill, or in some way negatively effect, salvation?

 

[Deborah13]

The word used here (hamartia) is simply "sin", singular, not A sin. I looked it up in Thayers and it's translated 172 times as "sin" or "sins". Here are some other verses with the word "hamartia" (#266) used.

I see what you are saying and agree. Frankly, I should have seen this. Thanks

So, I really don't know if there is some small qualifying dot or something that makes Thayer's translate the word "a sin" ONLY in 1Jn. 5 or it's INTERPRETATION as opposed to translation. FWIW...

"a sin" is the interpretation in KJV, haven't really looked in others. I didn't look in Thayer for it, it was in a Greek interlinear. Just to clarify.

So just by grammar we can't tell whether this verse is saying one sin or more than one. Unless I'm missing something.

 

[gr8grace]

Do you think John means only one specific sin instead of "sin" in general here?

It does not have to be some overt sin. Overt sins may be involved, but it is a habitual lifestyle of saying NO to Gods particular plan for the believer.

It is not anything that happens overnight. It is a constant habitual life of saying NO to Gods plan for ones life. IMO we would be shocked if it was revealed to us who are actually living this "sin"

We have a tendency to focus on the nasty overt sins that we can see. And we cannot "see" someone who is living a nice moral lifestyle, but is saying NO to Gods plan for their life.
The believers salvation is never in question though. Gods promise saves us, never the believers behavior. I know you know that one.

What do you think "mortal" or "deadly" means if it doesn't mean it will kill, or in some way negatively effect, salvation?

There is nothing that a creature can do to jeopardize his/her salvation. We can't save ourselves and we can't unsave ourselves.

The sin in focus is "I will" we can fill in the blank with human good(evil) or sins.

The death is physical death, the flesh. 1 Cor 5:5

 

[dadof10]

Do you think John means only one specific sin instead of "sin" in general here?

It does not have to be some overt sin. Overt sins may be involved, but it is a habitual lifestyle of saying NO to Gods particular plan for the believer.

It is not anything that happens overnight. It is a constant habitual life of saying NO to Gods plan for ones life. IMO we would be shocked if it was revealed to us who are actually living this "sin"

We have a tendency to focus on the nasty overt sins that we can see. And we cannot "see" someone who is living a nice moral lifestyle, but is saying NO to Gods plan for their life.
The believers salvation is never in question though. Gods promise saves us, never the believers behavior. I know you know that one.

What do you think "mortal" or "deadly" means if it doesn't mean it will kill, or in some way negatively effect, salvation?

There is nothing that a creature can do to jeopardize his/her salvation. We can't save ourselves and we can't unsave ourselves.

The sin in focus is "I will" we can fill in the blank with human good(evil) or sins.

The death is physical death, the flesh. 1 Cor 5:5

Hummm...So, the word "sin" in 1Jn. means "one specific sin"? This one sin is pride? And this one sin actually puts a person to physical death?

If this were so, none of us would be alive. ;)

All kidding aside, I don't know where Scripture teaches that one sin, (even the most grievous one, Pride) leads to physical death. 1Cor. 5:5 doesn't, as Paul wants this person "delivered" over to Satan for the sin of "living with his father's wife". Certainly this sin is not the one specific sin John is talking about in his letter, is it?

No, I think John means a spiritual "death" or "mortality" here.