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Thanks to the honesty of people like Simon Southerton, people will see the lies of mormonism for what they are (a religious docu-fantasy wrapped up as true history). That this book was written, is amazing since mormonism has so many cult re-enforcers; beliefs that make it hard to leave that church.
"Losing a Lost Tribe
Native Americans, DNA, and the Mormon Church
SIMON G. SOUTHERTON
Paperback. 216 Pages. / 1-56085-181-3/ $24.95
The Book of Mormon narrates voyages to the Americas by ancient Israelites. The descendants of these ancient seafarers are said to be the tribes of Native Americans who were on hand to greet Columbus, the Spanish Conquistadors, and the Pilgrims. Israelites are also said to be the ancestors of the Polynesians. “
copied from:
http://www.signaturebooks.com/Losing.htm
As a Mexican, I found the idea that Jewish exiles founded the great Mesoamerican civilizations, repugnant, a form of cultural imperialism. Throughout the conquest and colonization of the Western Hemisphere by Europeans, the Native Peoples were always degraded into less than-humans, making it easier to take their lands, lives and dignity. So that everyone but the Native Peoples themselves, were postulated as the originators of their impressive cultures and ruins; from space aliens, Hebrews, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Africans, Polynesians and Basques.
As a plant molecular geneticist, I think that he is in a very good position to administer the 'coup de grace' to the BoM on two levels, by researching or answering the following;
1)why the BoM never mentions the Mexican 'trinity'= maize, beans, squash; or the other memorable Mexican foods, like chilies & tomatoes
2)research on ancient pollens in the Western Hemisphere, should prove whether Old World crops where ever grown here during the pre-Columbian era as the BoM states.
I don't think that these are unreasonable questions to answer for him or anyone else, since it seems that once the two civilizations met, they also shared foods both ways in the Columbian Exchange:
“A lot of the food we take for granted wasn't even known to the Europeans until after the Columbian Exchange. When contact was made with the new world, a whole Cornucopia of new foods was introduced to the explorers, who would bring back these foods, and distribute them all over the world. “
copied from:
http://www.mnh.si.edu/garden/history/welcome.html
From my reading of history, it seems that many Mexican foods made it up to most parts of what became the US (as part of the agrarian revolution that accompanied settled life), maize (corn) was common throughout:
“CORN, the greatest of American cereals, is distinctively an American product. All evidence points to the fact that it was unknown in Europe until after the discovery of America. Its culture at an early period in this country is shown by the accounts of early explorers. Columbus, in writing to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella in 1498, mentions cornfields in America 18 miles in length. Cartier, in the account of his explorations, states that the village of Hochelega, which later (in 1535) became Montreal, was situated in the midst of large cornfields. De Soto found large fields in Florida in 1675, and five years later La Salle noted large supplies in what is now the State of Illinois. That it was grown rather extensively is also indicated by the fact that in 1685 1,200,000 acres of corn belonging to the Seneca Indians were destroyed by the English in New York. In 1696 Frontenac, who invaded the Onondaga country in New York State, spent three days in destroying growing fields. “
copied from:
http://www.earthlypursuits.com/Vegetabl ... 1918-1.htm
I am unsure if any of you have ever tried chilies, whether in their original Mexican glory or in its descendant forms in African, Caribbean, Southeast Asian &/or Indian meals. As a research project, I would ask you how would you describe your first bite of a fiery hot “chili de arbol†or its descendant, the Thai chili? Would that experience have made it to the BoM, as a bitter herb? On that answer hangs the BoM as a true or false document.
Cordially,
rhino4x4
"Losing a Lost Tribe
Native Americans, DNA, and the Mormon Church
SIMON G. SOUTHERTON
Paperback. 216 Pages. / 1-56085-181-3/ $24.95
The Book of Mormon narrates voyages to the Americas by ancient Israelites. The descendants of these ancient seafarers are said to be the tribes of Native Americans who were on hand to greet Columbus, the Spanish Conquistadors, and the Pilgrims. Israelites are also said to be the ancestors of the Polynesians. “
copied from:
http://www.signaturebooks.com/Losing.htm
As a Mexican, I found the idea that Jewish exiles founded the great Mesoamerican civilizations, repugnant, a form of cultural imperialism. Throughout the conquest and colonization of the Western Hemisphere by Europeans, the Native Peoples were always degraded into less than-humans, making it easier to take their lands, lives and dignity. So that everyone but the Native Peoples themselves, were postulated as the originators of their impressive cultures and ruins; from space aliens, Hebrews, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Africans, Polynesians and Basques.
As a plant molecular geneticist, I think that he is in a very good position to administer the 'coup de grace' to the BoM on two levels, by researching or answering the following;
1)why the BoM never mentions the Mexican 'trinity'= maize, beans, squash; or the other memorable Mexican foods, like chilies & tomatoes
2)research on ancient pollens in the Western Hemisphere, should prove whether Old World crops where ever grown here during the pre-Columbian era as the BoM states.
I don't think that these are unreasonable questions to answer for him or anyone else, since it seems that once the two civilizations met, they also shared foods both ways in the Columbian Exchange:
“A lot of the food we take for granted wasn't even known to the Europeans until after the Columbian Exchange. When contact was made with the new world, a whole Cornucopia of new foods was introduced to the explorers, who would bring back these foods, and distribute them all over the world. “
copied from:
http://www.mnh.si.edu/garden/history/welcome.html
From my reading of history, it seems that many Mexican foods made it up to most parts of what became the US (as part of the agrarian revolution that accompanied settled life), maize (corn) was common throughout:
“CORN, the greatest of American cereals, is distinctively an American product. All evidence points to the fact that it was unknown in Europe until after the discovery of America. Its culture at an early period in this country is shown by the accounts of early explorers. Columbus, in writing to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella in 1498, mentions cornfields in America 18 miles in length. Cartier, in the account of his explorations, states that the village of Hochelega, which later (in 1535) became Montreal, was situated in the midst of large cornfields. De Soto found large fields in Florida in 1675, and five years later La Salle noted large supplies in what is now the State of Illinois. That it was grown rather extensively is also indicated by the fact that in 1685 1,200,000 acres of corn belonging to the Seneca Indians were destroyed by the English in New York. In 1696 Frontenac, who invaded the Onondaga country in New York State, spent three days in destroying growing fields. “
copied from:
http://www.earthlypursuits.com/Vegetabl ... 1918-1.htm
I am unsure if any of you have ever tried chilies, whether in their original Mexican glory or in its descendant forms in African, Caribbean, Southeast Asian &/or Indian meals. As a research project, I would ask you how would you describe your first bite of a fiery hot “chili de arbol†or its descendant, the Thai chili? Would that experience have made it to the BoM, as a bitter herb? On that answer hangs the BoM as a true or false document.
Cordially,
rhino4x4