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Lyric's Dad
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Don't listen or ingest much of what is said around here by a couple of people.
It will always cause problems.
It will always cause problems.
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Gary
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Lyric's Dad said:
Very interesting, especially when it is now known that Lyric's Dad is a Mormon!
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Kefka
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Gary said:Very interesting, especially when it is now known that Lyric's Dad is a Mormon!
Not necessarily, I thought he had been a morman at one point. Could be wrong, and it doesn't necessarily mean that you should just disregard what he says, just that as a christian you should be cautious. Personally I'm impressed by his "bible education."
To keep from backsliding? I don't, I always backslide... but I rely on God to help pull me forward. I pray frequently every day, and the one thing I've learned is not to rely on man to help pull you forward, in man you will find consolation... in God you will find healing.
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How sharp can one make an axe?Gary said:Lyric's Dad said:
Very interesting, especially when it is now known that Lyric's Dad is a Mormon!
Just ask gary.
And just for the record, you are not quite correct. I used to be LDS but I was duped into giving that up. I am now on my way back in but not officially a member yet. That will not be official until this Sunday when I am baptized and confirmed. So until then I am nothing more then little ol' Lyric's Dad.
Kefka,
I appreciate your kind remarks. Some would think because someone does not see things their way that their entire point would therefore be made null and void. That is a very shallow method of finding truth for sure. Funny but as a believer in the LDS faith, I still find much good in the teachings of many evangelical Christians. I see them as brothers and sisters in the Lord and learn from them all the time.
The leaders of the Church are always quoting such noted Evangelicals as Moody and C.S. Lewis and teach about the reformation as being a God given beginning to the Restoration.
But what would they know??? :roll:
Anyway, kind regards Kefka and God bless.
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Khristeeanos
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Kefka said:Gary said:Very interesting, especially when it is now known that Lyric's Dad is a Mormon!
Not necessarily, I thought he had been a morman at one point. Could be wrong, and it doesn't necessarily mean that you should just disregard what he says, just that as a christian you should be cautious. Personally I'm impressed by his "bible education."
To keep from backsliding? I don't, I always backslide... but I rely on God to help pull me forward. I pray frequently every day, and the one thing I've learned is not to rely on man to help pull you forward, in man you will find consolation... in God you will find healing.
Do a search on LD's siggie:
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Lyric's Dad
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Khristeeanos said:No need to do a search. You can just pm me and ask me about it. I have nothing to hide.Kefka said:Gary said:Very interesting, especially when it is now known that Lyric's Dad is a Mormon!
Not necessarily, I thought he had been a morman at one point. Could be wrong, and it doesn't necessarily mean that you should just disregard what he says, just that as a christian you should be cautious. Personally I'm impressed by his "bible education."
To keep from backsliding? I don't, I always backslide... but I rely on God to help pull me forward. I pray frequently every day, and the one thing I've learned is not to rely on man to help pull you forward, in man you will find consolation... in God you will find healing.
Do a search on LD's siggie:
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Gary
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Lyric's Dad said:
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Gary
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... besides, the rules of this particular section of the forum state:
Are Mormons now "Christians"? Do they agree with the "Statement of Faith" for this board?
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=11740
If not, why is Lyric's Dad posting in this section?
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Are Mormons now "Christians"? Do they agree with the "Statement of Faith" for this board?
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=11740
If not, why is Lyric's Dad posting in this section?
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Lyric's Dad
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Well Gary, you may agree with the statement of faith of this board but you display anything but Christian actions. So, why are you posting here?Gary said:
Many in that day will say they did great things in the name of the Lord but He will tell them He knew them not. Yes Gary, you give great lip service but your walk sure does not meet it.
Yep, I had things to say against the LDS faith of which I have repented. Do you know what repentance is Gary?
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Lyric's Dad said:
Lyric's Dad said:
So are you now saying that what you told us about LDS/Mormons were actually lies? Were ALL the statements above (1) to (5) all lies?
Wow!
Read this: -LDS Leaders, Their Ethics and Lying for the Lord-
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Soma-Sight
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Gary,
If I lived in Utah....
Being a Mormon would broaden my horizens in that practically everyone there is one!
The Mormons are known for supporting the members of the Church to a great extent....
Of course that is a poor reason to join a religion... but its better than nothing.
If I lived in Utah....
Being a Mormon would broaden my horizens in that practically everyone there is one!
The Mormons are known for supporting the members of the Church to a great extent....
Of course that is a poor reason to join a religion... but its better than nothing.
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Gary
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Soma-Sight said:Gary,
If I lived in Utah....
Being a Mormon would broaden my horizens in that practically everyone there is one!
The Mormons are known for supporting the members of the Church to a great extent....
Of course that is a poor reason to join a religion... but its better than nothing.
You could even go onto the Internet and PRETEND you are no longer a Mormon. Best of both worlds.
I know another religion which accepts that you may lie to deceive "non-believers"..... guess which it is? Yes, you are right! Islam.
- Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." .....
stovebolts
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Lyric’s Dad,
Know that I respect you and I am not speaking to you in a condemning manner. True, I can be a bit brash on occasion so I’ll apologize right now if I come off the wrong way.
What in the world are you doing? Your bible knowledge is fantastic, how can you now take one step back after coming so far forward? And what is this ‘Re-Baptism’ stuff anyway? LD, there is only ONE baptism and that is from our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ and through His death, burial and resurrection, you will be comforted because He has promised you a comforter if you will be baptized into His death, burial and resurrection and not the baptism that pleases men and causes your heart to flutter. LD, don’t put your faith in a church, put it in Christ Jesus and become part of the Church that is based on the grace of God, and not of men and twisted doctrines. To be honest, I thought you were given to Universal Reconciliation but now that I know that Mormons baptize for the dead and you were speaking Mormon doctrine, it all makes better since to me. BTW, I was baptized Mormon when I was in the 7th grade at the Mormon church in Spokane Washington. I could have told you then, and I can tell you now that getting dunked in that tank of water had nothing to do with my salvation. Several years later while in Juvenile I accepted Christ into my heart and was baptized; through that baptism, there was without a shadow of a doubt that I was both forgiven of my sins and saved from my own destruction. LD, you know, and I could quote scripture to no end that being saved is a one for one deal. In other words, we live once and then we die. In our lives, it is God’s grace that saves and all he requires is our faith and repentant hearts. To think that through me being baptized would have anything to do with my daughter, brother or mother being saved is simply not biblical. True, it tickles the ears, but sadly, it is not found in scripture. This LD, you know is true.
Yes LD, the temple is an awesome piece of work there in SLC. For the workmanship, I have nothing but respect for such a magnificent building. On that same note, I have some very fond memories of a few of the RCC churches in Detroit and when I visited a few Orthodox churches I was utterly amazed and was filled with awe and utter respect. For me, all I can say is breath taking… and I have to ask how somebody couldn’t worship in such a place or how somebody could look upon such a glorious and beautiful building dedicated to honoring our Lord Jesus and despise such an expression of Christ. And then one day, I realized it wasn’t the temple that God dwelt in, for God, in all His glory will dwell within us, for we are the true temples… we are the tabernacle…. The six candlesticks with the wick that holds the oil that surround the one great candlestick and our quest is to enter the most holy place. But to do so, we need to enter into the tabernacle through the gates, and I believe you have done this, but now is the time for you to be anointed with oil and to be set apart as holy. To do this, you need the holy spirit and that LD, is not expressed in a structure built by human hands or regulated by human doctrine, but is expressed through Christ dwelling within us because it is this expression of Christ where true baptism occurs and that LD, is what makes up the Church of Jesus Christ and has NOTHING to do with any Later Day saints.
I have enjoyed reading many of your posts in the past. Yes, it is true that I have responded very little to many of the threads you have written in, but none the less I have enjoyed and have gotten much from many of your posts. Truly, I am saddened (not that it matters much to you, for you will do what you are urged to do) at the realization that you would try to find what ever you are seeking in the Mormon church. LD, you are smarter than that and you know your heart tugs away from where your flesh is leading you, yet the flesh is strong and it’s the guise that seeks but in reality, it deceives.
This weekend, you may be dunked in an ornate tank of water and many people will more than likely be there cheering you on and who ever has been nagging you to come back to the Mormon church will be there feeling bolstered in their esteem thinking that they themselves brought you back to their fold. Friend, when that moment comes, ask the one who drug you back into the mire how HE feels and watch him bolster of himself from within himself for in his actions, Christ will not be found because the greater attention will not be on Christ, but on you… and the church.
Maybe what has been said will anger you; maybe it will give you food for thought. It is my hope that whatever your response, these words will be remembered and that they came from me, to you in brotherly love. God Bless you Lyrics Dad.
Jeff
Know that I respect you and I am not speaking to you in a condemning manner. True, I can be a bit brash on occasion so I’ll apologize right now if I come off the wrong way.
What in the world are you doing? Your bible knowledge is fantastic, how can you now take one step back after coming so far forward? And what is this ‘Re-Baptism’ stuff anyway? LD, there is only ONE baptism and that is from our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ and through His death, burial and resurrection, you will be comforted because He has promised you a comforter if you will be baptized into His death, burial and resurrection and not the baptism that pleases men and causes your heart to flutter. LD, don’t put your faith in a church, put it in Christ Jesus and become part of the Church that is based on the grace of God, and not of men and twisted doctrines. To be honest, I thought you were given to Universal Reconciliation but now that I know that Mormons baptize for the dead and you were speaking Mormon doctrine, it all makes better since to me. BTW, I was baptized Mormon when I was in the 7th grade at the Mormon church in Spokane Washington. I could have told you then, and I can tell you now that getting dunked in that tank of water had nothing to do with my salvation. Several years later while in Juvenile I accepted Christ into my heart and was baptized; through that baptism, there was without a shadow of a doubt that I was both forgiven of my sins and saved from my own destruction. LD, you know, and I could quote scripture to no end that being saved is a one for one deal. In other words, we live once and then we die. In our lives, it is God’s grace that saves and all he requires is our faith and repentant hearts. To think that through me being baptized would have anything to do with my daughter, brother or mother being saved is simply not biblical. True, it tickles the ears, but sadly, it is not found in scripture. This LD, you know is true.
Yes LD, the temple is an awesome piece of work there in SLC. For the workmanship, I have nothing but respect for such a magnificent building. On that same note, I have some very fond memories of a few of the RCC churches in Detroit and when I visited a few Orthodox churches I was utterly amazed and was filled with awe and utter respect. For me, all I can say is breath taking… and I have to ask how somebody couldn’t worship in such a place or how somebody could look upon such a glorious and beautiful building dedicated to honoring our Lord Jesus and despise such an expression of Christ. And then one day, I realized it wasn’t the temple that God dwelt in, for God, in all His glory will dwell within us, for we are the true temples… we are the tabernacle…. The six candlesticks with the wick that holds the oil that surround the one great candlestick and our quest is to enter the most holy place. But to do so, we need to enter into the tabernacle through the gates, and I believe you have done this, but now is the time for you to be anointed with oil and to be set apart as holy. To do this, you need the holy spirit and that LD, is not expressed in a structure built by human hands or regulated by human doctrine, but is expressed through Christ dwelling within us because it is this expression of Christ where true baptism occurs and that LD, is what makes up the Church of Jesus Christ and has NOTHING to do with any Later Day saints.
I have enjoyed reading many of your posts in the past. Yes, it is true that I have responded very little to many of the threads you have written in, but none the less I have enjoyed and have gotten much from many of your posts. Truly, I am saddened (not that it matters much to you, for you will do what you are urged to do) at the realization that you would try to find what ever you are seeking in the Mormon church. LD, you are smarter than that and you know your heart tugs away from where your flesh is leading you, yet the flesh is strong and it’s the guise that seeks but in reality, it deceives.
This weekend, you may be dunked in an ornate tank of water and many people will more than likely be there cheering you on and who ever has been nagging you to come back to the Mormon church will be there feeling bolstered in their esteem thinking that they themselves brought you back to their fold. Friend, when that moment comes, ask the one who drug you back into the mire how HE feels and watch him bolster of himself from within himself for in his actions, Christ will not be found because the greater attention will not be on Christ, but on you… and the church.
Maybe what has been said will anger you; maybe it will give you food for thought. It is my hope that whatever your response, these words will be remembered and that they came from me, to you in brotherly love. God Bless you Lyrics Dad.
Jeff
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Kefka
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Wait a minute... I do NOT remember posting here.
Anyway... what is the point of this thread? There is no possible way that someone could post something constructive that relates to the topic. But... uh,
Christianity wins?
P.S.
Scott is the worst? I thought it would've been Gary (I mean for LD).
Anyway... what is the point of this thread? There is no possible way that someone could post something constructive that relates to the topic. But... uh,
Christianity wins?
P.S.
Scott is the worst? I thought it would've been Gary (I mean for LD).
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Khristeeanos
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Kefka said:
This thread is a split from another topic.
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Gary
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"Is Mormonism Christian?" is a very important question. The answer is equally important and simple. No. Mormonism is not Christian.
http://www.carm.org/lds/lds_christian.htm
Note: Lyric's Dad admitted that the site I have quoted is very good!!!
Here is the exchange:
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:23 pm
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 518#198518
.....and his response.....
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:06 am
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 558#198558
:-D
Known as "shooting yourself in the foot"....
Read on: http://www.carm.org/mormon.htm
http://www.carm.org/lds/lds_christian.htm
Note: Lyric's Dad admitted that the site I have quoted is very good!!!
Here is the exchange:
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:23 pm
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 518#198518
Gary said:
.....and his response.....
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:06 am
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 558#198558
Lyric's Dad said:
:-D Known as "shooting yourself in the foot"....
Read on: http://www.carm.org/mormon.htm
:wink:
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Solo
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13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16 Do not err, my beloved brethren. 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. 18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. James 1:13-18
Gary,
First let me say I understand why you post the thing you do. That being said it saddens me no end as to the methodology that you consistently use. It serves no purpose to attack people with such venom as you do. It certainly does nothing to glorify God or edify others. Does this mean you can't tell the truth? Certainly not but we should at least be able to see the love of Christ showing through your words to help correct a person we believe to be wrong. Does this mean we can't rebuke someone we believe to be in error? Certainly not. I would suggest however that you look to Gods word as to how we are to rebuke someone. While your at it please spend some time researching how we are to lead people who have wandered from the truth back to God.
LD,
First let me say based on our conversations I consider you a friend and as such will keep you in my prayers. I must say, based on those same conversations, that I am surprised at the decision you are making. The information you provide me about the LDS and verified as factual were presented without any discernable malice towards the LDS on your part. The rituals you said the LDS performs cannot be found anywhere in the Bible. That in itself sends up a red flag for me and many others.
If it is truly Gods will (which I must say I am suspect of) then I am sure you will be used to his glory. My only request is that you truly take some time and pray about this. As hard as it may be, ignore the outside influences from the LDS, Evangelicals or any other groups or people including myself and seek Gods perfect will. Spend time talking with him and time in his word. Ask him to show you his truth and to help you ignore the influences of men.
I would also like to echo what StoveBolts said.
I pray that God grants you the vision to see only his truth and the strength to follow that truth.
May the peace of God be with you my friend,
Norm
First let me say I understand why you post the thing you do. That being said it saddens me no end as to the methodology that you consistently use. It serves no purpose to attack people with such venom as you do. It certainly does nothing to glorify God or edify others. Does this mean you can't tell the truth? Certainly not but we should at least be able to see the love of Christ showing through your words to help correct a person we believe to be wrong. Does this mean we can't rebuke someone we believe to be in error? Certainly not. I would suggest however that you look to Gods word as to how we are to rebuke someone. While your at it please spend some time researching how we are to lead people who have wandered from the truth back to God.
LD,
First let me say based on our conversations I consider you a friend and as such will keep you in my prayers. I must say, based on those same conversations, that I am surprised at the decision you are making. The information you provide me about the LDS and verified as factual were presented without any discernable malice towards the LDS on your part. The rituals you said the LDS performs cannot be found anywhere in the Bible. That in itself sends up a red flag for me and many others.
If it is truly Gods will (which I must say I am suspect of) then I am sure you will be used to his glory. My only request is that you truly take some time and pray about this. As hard as it may be, ignore the outside influences from the LDS, Evangelicals or any other groups or people including myself and seek Gods perfect will. Spend time talking with him and time in his word. Ask him to show you his truth and to help you ignore the influences of men.
I would also like to echo what StoveBolts said.
I pray that God grants you the vision to see only his truth and the strength to follow that truth.
May the peace of God be with you my friend,
Norm
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Gary
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NRoof said:
This was not about error... this was about deception and abuse of power (when he was a Moderator). So while you are at it, why not do some research (using the Bible) about what is said about false teachers, those in power (leaders) and "wolves in sheep's clothing"?
P.S. If you intended "rebuking" me, why did you not first follow the Biblical model and approach me directly, in private (via PM) as the Bible would suggest?
Feel free to contact me via PM.
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