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Mainline Lutheran assembly urges bishops not to discipline gay ministers.
Lisa Parro


A resolution against disciplining pastors in "a mutual, chaste and faithful, committed, same-gender relationship" is drawing criticism from some within the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA)...


http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... /4.17.html

See also

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... ml#related

& http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/features/poll.html


& Romans 1:18-32 @ http://www.BibleGateway.org

Ian
 
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Romans 1:18-32 (New International Version)


God's Wrath Against Mankind

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,

19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualitiesâ€â€his eternal power and divine natureâ€â€have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creatorâ€â€who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.

27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,

30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
 
Homosexuals have literally taken over our Churches, what are we to do?
 
katsa said:
Homosexuals have literally taken over our Churches, what are we to do?

Hi Katsa!

I take it you are in a 'mainline' church?

As Jesus said, "If they refuse to accept your message....."

Click churches at http://www.ag.org & http://www.elim.org.uk etc

http://ag.org/top/church_directory/

http://www.elim.org.uk/evangelism/artic ... D=ART00891

I hope that last link is right, as this public PC can't open it



Yahoo Pentecostal churches (name of your town)

Merseyside readers needing a good church find 'em linked at http://www.tfh.org.uk

http://www.tfh.org.uk/churches.htm

Here's mine:-

http://www.yourelookinggreat.co.uk/

http://www.yourelookinggreat.co.uk/hope ... ember.aspx


Must go

Ian
 
An Older, Wiser Ex-Gay Movement

The 30-year-old ministry now offers realistic hope for homosexuals.
Tim Stafford


Since its beginnings in the 1970s, the ex-gay movement has engaged gay advocates in a battle of testimonies. Transformed ex-gay leaders are the best argument for their movement. Likewise, those who've left the ex-gay movement in despair and disgust are the best counterargument.

The debate continued this June, when Exodus International held its 32nd annual conference in Irvine, California, featuring dozens of speakers and seminar leaders who have quit homosexuality. Down the road outside the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center, a news conference featured three former Exodus leaders saying "ex-gay" is a delusion.

New research may change the terms of debate.

Psychologists Stanton Jones of Wheaton College and Mark Yarhouse of Regent University released today a book detailing their findings from the first three years of an ongoing study. They are investigating participants in 16 different ex-gay programs associated with Exodus, the largest ex-gay ministry group.

The results show that some participants experienced significant change, though the change was usually partial, not complete. Furthermore, participants showed no additional mental or spiritual distress as a result of their involvement in the ex-gay program.

This study is the first to use multiple interviews and questionnaires over a period of years, assessing participants from near the beginning of their involvement in an ex-gay program.

Jones and Yarhouse launched the study to try to resolve differences between their professional community, which warns that "reparative therapy" for homosexuals is both impossible and dangerous, and testimonies they have heard from those involved in ex-gay movements.

Though critics of ex-gay movements sometimes cite research findings in warning against reparative therapy, Jones and Yarhouse found that published research did not actually bear out their claims. The existing research about homosexual change, though mostly dated, indicated some possibility of change. New research meeting contemporary research standards was needed.

Some of Jones and Yarhouse's key findings:

By most measures, the average participant experienced statistically significant change in his or her sexual identity and sexual attractions.

Such changes were generally modest, though, with decreasing homosexual attraction more significant than increasing heterosexual attraction.

Exodus can describe 38 percent of its programs' participants as successes, changing to either a "meaningful but complicated" heterosexuality (15 percent) or a stable chastity (23 percent).

Surprisingly, a "truly gay" subpopulation showed the clearest changes in sexual identity and attraction.

No evidence of increased mental distress was found.

Jones and Yarhouse take pains to emphasize that their study does not clarify the likelihood of successful change for any particular individual. Participants were self-selectedâ€â€a highly motivated, highly religious group working with Exodus. (For a more complete review of this research, see "The Best Research Yet.") Still, the study marks a crucial point in the ongoing maturation of the ex-gay movement. Once a small experiment, the movement has endured growing pains, learned from setbacks, and achieved a stable pattern of ministry...


http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... /6.48.html

See also

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... ml#related

Ian
 

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