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If you don't know, there are many Muslims that claim that Isaiah 29:12 prove that there is a prophecy of Muhammad in the Bible like Sura 7:157 says.
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the (Point 1)Torah and the Gospel"
Basically, this is saying that the messenger of the "God" of Islam, Muhammad, "the unlettered prophet", is mentioned in the Torah (Gen., Exo., Levi., Num., and Deut.) and the Gospel (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John).
So, a verse they use to say that it is in the Torah is Isaiah 29:12, which says, "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
While that does sound like a prophecy of Muhammad, the verse is ripped right out of its context. Here's what verse 10 through 14 say:
"10 For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you (Point 2)as the words of a book that is sealed, (Point 3)which men deliver (Point 4)to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
13 Wherefore the Lord said, (Point 5)Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid."
As you probably noticed, I've put stuff like "Point 1", "Point 2", "Point 3", etc. I put those there, because those show why it is not Muhammad mentioned in Isaiah 29:12.
Point 1: The Book of Isaiah isn't even in the Torah like Sura 7:157 said Muhammad would be mentioned in.
Point 1: It's AS the words of a book that is sealed. It's an example, not a literal book.
Point 2: Men deliver the book. In Islam's story, the Angel Gabriel gives the Qur'an to Muhammad, not a man.
Point 3: The book is not delivered to just an unlearned man, but also a learned man. That contradicts Islam's story, where only Muhammad is given the Qur'an (And Muhammad is the only witness).
Point 4: The reason the people cannot read the book in the example is because they honor God with their mouths, but they are truly wicked. If a Muslim were to say this is Muhammad (And it isn't), they are saying that Muhammad couldn't read the book because his heart was far from God.
Edit: Credit to Texas75023's video for helping me see the error.
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the (Point 1)Torah and the Gospel"
Basically, this is saying that the messenger of the "God" of Islam, Muhammad, "the unlettered prophet", is mentioned in the Torah (Gen., Exo., Levi., Num., and Deut.) and the Gospel (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John).
So, a verse they use to say that it is in the Torah is Isaiah 29:12, which says, "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
While that does sound like a prophecy of Muhammad, the verse is ripped right out of its context. Here's what verse 10 through 14 say:
"10 For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you (Point 2)as the words of a book that is sealed, (Point 3)which men deliver (Point 4)to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
13 Wherefore the Lord said, (Point 5)Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid."
As you probably noticed, I've put stuff like "Point 1", "Point 2", "Point 3", etc. I put those there, because those show why it is not Muhammad mentioned in Isaiah 29:12.
Point 1: The Book of Isaiah isn't even in the Torah like Sura 7:157 said Muhammad would be mentioned in.
Point 1: It's AS the words of a book that is sealed. It's an example, not a literal book.
Point 2: Men deliver the book. In Islam's story, the Angel Gabriel gives the Qur'an to Muhammad, not a man.
Point 3: The book is not delivered to just an unlearned man, but also a learned man. That contradicts Islam's story, where only Muhammad is given the Qur'an (And Muhammad is the only witness).
Point 4: The reason the people cannot read the book in the example is because they honor God with their mouths, but they are truly wicked. If a Muslim were to say this is Muhammad (And it isn't), they are saying that Muhammad couldn't read the book because his heart was far from God.
Edit: Credit to Texas75023's video for helping me see the error.
