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Muhammad the "Comforter" -- another Muslim lie

Why do Muslim lie like this?

  • Islam allows them to lie

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  • They have to try and prove the Quran somehow... even by deception

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  • This is no lie. It is all true. Muhammad IS in the Bible!

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Muhammad the "Comforter" -- another Muslim lie

Whenever Muslims seek to prove that Muhammad is foretold in the New Testament, they immediately appeal to the promise of Jesus that the "Comforter" would follow him and claim that this Comforter was Muhammad (particularly as in the Qur'an, Jesus is alleged to have foretold the coming of Muhammad in Surah 61.6 in similar language)

It is generally alleged by Muslims that the Greek word "paracletos" (meaning Comforter, Counsellor, Advocate, etc., in effect, one who unites men to God) is not the original word but that Jesus in fact foretold the coming of Muhammad by name and that the translation of his name into Greek (or at least the meaning of his name in Greek) is "periklutos", that is, the "praised one".

There is not a shred of evidence in favour of the assertion that the original word was "periklutos". We have thousands of New Testament manuscripts pre-dating Islam and not one of these contains the word "periklutos". In view of the fact that Muslims are prone to levelling false allegations that Christians are regularly changing the Bible, it is rather intriguing to find that they have no scruples about doing this themselves when it suits them to do so.

Read more:

The question has to be asked...... why do Muslim lie like this?

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how do you know its a lie??

your faith may be wrong, theirs may be wrong.

All these religions stemmed from teh same thing, it just happens that the game of telephone screwed up some more than others..
 
Challenge to the Muslim

CHALLENGE TO THE MUSLIM

The Islamic claims that Muhammad is the Comforter have been put to the acid test and they dissolved. These claims were weak and failed for several reasons:
  • 1) the Muslim writers offered no textual proof to substantiate their assertions

    2) they were unable to provide in-depth references as support

    3) they avoided providing the reader with analysis of the texts because any analysis would show the weakness in their argument
In other words, the Muslims who wrote these articles knew deep down that they had no case. But, in order to save face for Muhammad they had to make an attempt to keep him from looking false.

Don’t you, the Muslim reader, deserve better than the deceptive ideas Muslim writers have fed you? I’ve addressed the assertions, claims, and questions of these prominent Muslim apologists and polemicists. And I have shown that their work is deficient. Instead of presenting a thorough study of “The Comforter†they opted to present a weak, inaccurate, and deceptive account, hoping that you, the Muslim reader, would not think for yourself. They have been exposed! Shame on them!

Your eternal destiny is at stake: paradise, or hell. So, why settle for such meager fare from these Muslim writers who have not presented you the whole truth? They have not researched the subject, and they did not present to you the facts that were easily accessible at their own hands. Don’t you deserve better? Your eternal destiny depends on whether or not you follow Jesus. If Muhammad was a false prophet wouldn’t you want to know all the facts before you trust Islam to save your soul?

Source: http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/comforter.htm

:o
 
Gary, your god sends people to an eternity of pain and suffering for simply not believing in him, then claims to be a kind and merciful god. Hitler had a more legitimate reason to burn people other than "They didnt like me". Why dont you go and post something like this on an Islamic site? Why dont you go to an Islamic temple and challenge them directly?

Their faith is very different from yours. Theirs could be right and yours could be wrong. Yours could be right while theirs is wrong. Both of your faiths could be wrong and there is no god and when you die your soul is reborn in another dimension or something. You will have no idea until you are dead, and even then I highly doubt youll be able to rise out of your grave, dust yourself off and come back to muslims and say "I told ya so!!!".
 
Jesus said; "because you are unable to understand what I say, your father is the devil, the father of lies. He was a murderer from the beginning and you want to carry out your father's desires." Mohammed sure showed that to be true! He did exactly what the devil loves, murder. "A man is a slave to whatever masters him." Someone who is a slave to the devil carries out the devil's desires. One who is a slave to God carries out God's desires. The devil is what made Mohammed do what he did & makes Mohammed's followers believe him. satan is once again, the great deceiver. The Muslims have a hard time distinguishing God from the devil because their god does the same thing as the devil. A muderer a comforter? By that reasoning, then i would be safe in the hands of a hit man! Sorry, but I would be much safer in the hands of a man who gave up his life for me even though I've done nothing to deserve it than a man who would take my life if he didn't like me. But sadly, the Muslims can't discern who is their enemy & who is their friend. But I guarantee that they will find out which is which when they die. Some people simply have to learn the hard way, I guess.
 
Everyday Person said:
Gary, your god sends people to an eternity of pain and suffering for simply not believing in him, then claims to be a kind and merciful god. Hitler had a more legitimate reason to burn people other than "They didnt like me".
Of course hell is contrary to the God of love. That is its very essence. But its existence does not refute God’s existence. For love wants the beloved to be free, like itself. Love created freedom, love appeals to freedom, love respects freedom. It is this freedom that chooses hell.
(Peter Kreeft - Handbook of Christian Apologetics)

Everyday Person said:
Why dont you go and post something like this on an Islamic site?
We have, many times. If you read the post, you will see that many of the articles come from http://www.answering-islam.org

I know several of the authors there; they come from all walks of life and are spread out across the world. Many of them are under death threats from Muslims who follow Muhammad's example... murder those who oppose you or expose you.

Everyday Person said:
Why dont you go to an Islamic temple and challenge them directly?
Many of us witness directly to Muslims, face to face. I doubt anyone would go to a mosque (where Muslims pray) to "challenge" Muslims. However, many of the leading Christian apologists have openly debated Muslims... often incurring the insults and physical threats that go along with those debates.

See these:
... and some people still think that Islam is a "peaceful religion"!!!

Everyday Person said:
Their faith is very different from yours.
I understand that very well. However, I will continue to challenge Muslims who misuse and abuse the Bible to try and claim things for Islam which are NOT in the Bible. As the articles above show, most of that so-called "exegesis" is outright deception and lies. Jesus taught us to expose false prophets. He said we would "know them by their fruits." The fruits of Islam and Muhammad are rotten.

Everyday Person said:
Theirs could be right and yours could be wrong. Yours could be right while theirs is wrong. Both of your faiths could be wrong and there is no god and when you die your soul is reborn in another dimension or something.
Yes, the faiths are mutually exclusive. Only one of them can be right.... or, as you correctly point out, both could be wrong. That is why I study both faiths. As I have done that, I have become more and more convinced of the validity of Christianity. I also study Judaism and that gives me further insight... and again shows me that Muhammad understood little about either Christianity or Judaism. Hence his rather simple "strawman" effort of building a Christianity which he can then reject! Remember, the Jews of Arabia saw through Muhammad very early on. They rejected him as a prophet. Hence his dislike and eventual murder and slaughter of the Jews.

I was also an atheist for over 30 years. So I know the atheist arguments against Christianity. Since coming to saving faith in the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, I look back an see how futile my fight against the obvious was. It is pride that stops most atheists believing.

Everyday Person said:
You will have no idea until you are dead, and even then I highly doubt youll be able to rise out of your grave, dust yourself off and come back to muslims and say "I told ya so!!!".
I have a very good idea before I am dead. I have experienced the saving grace and the love of my Lord Jesus Christ. I have studied the Bible and I trust that Jesus has risen. I trust God's Word. It is this assurance that gives me wonderful peace and joy (which passes all understanding). Philippians 4:7

I do not intend '"coming back" ... hence our Great Commission BEFORE we die... Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus said and Matthew said:
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age. Matthew 28:19-20
 
objections

As to the comforter and the explanations they use to deny something else here are the problems with it.
"And I will pray the Father, and he will give you another Comforter, to be with you for ever, even the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him; you know him, for he dwells with you, and will be in you".
John 14.16-17.
Another comforter? Clearly something that is not there as of yet.


"But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you".
John 14.26
The holy spirit had already been making its rounds if you check your bible. This cannot be what is referred to.


"But when the Comforter comes, whom I shall send you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me".
John 15.26
This is again something that is not there at the time and is to come in the future. This does not refer to the holy spirit.

"Nevertheless I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you".
John 16.7
Again a future prophecy of someone or something to come before Jesus return.(assuming you believe that) The holy spirit was already here and cannot be the answer to the question of the comforter.
 
The reason God allows people to go to hell is that it is impossible for someone to receive love from someone they deny exits! Absolutely impossible.
 
Of course hell is contrary to the God of love. That is its very essence. But its existence does not refute God’s existence. For love wants the beloved to be free, like itself. Love created freedom, love appeals to freedom, love respects freedom. It is this freedom that chooses hell.
(Peter Kreeft - Handbook of Christian Apologetics)

Everyday Person wrote:
Why dont you go and post something like this on an Islamic site?

We have, many times. If you read the post, you will see that many of the articles come from http://www.answering-islam.org

I know several of the authors there; they come from all walks of life and are spread out across the world. Many of them are under death threats from Muslims who follow Muhammad's example... murder those who oppose you or expose you.

Everyday Person wrote:
Why dont you go to an Islamic temple and challenge them directly?

Many of us witness directly to Muslims, face to face. I doubt anyone would go to a mosque (where Muslims pray) to "challenge" Muslims. However, many of the leading Christian apologists have openly debated Muslims... often incurring the insults and physical threats that go along with those debates.

See these:

(1) Death threat from "Jealous Muslim Group"
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/search
(2) Murdering Islam's Critics: The Female Slaves and Theo Van Gogh
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/theo_van_gogh.htm
(3) Death Threat For the Author of the Prophet of Doom
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/501040150.htm
... and some people still think that Islam is a "peaceful religion"!!!

Everyday Person wrote:
Their faith is very different from yours.

I understand that very well. However, I will continue to challenge Muslims who misuse and abuse the Bible to try and claim things for Islam which are NOT in the Bible. As the articles above show, most of that so-called "exegesis" is outright deception and lies. Jesus taught us to expose false prophets. He said we would "know them by their fruits." The fruits of Islam and Muhammad are rotten.

Everyday Person wrote:
Theirs could be right and yours could be wrong. Yours could be right while theirs is wrong. Both of your faiths could be wrong and there is no god and when you die your soul is reborn in another dimension or something.

Yes, the faiths are mutually exclusive. Only one of them can be right.... or, as you correctly point out, both could be wrong. That is why I study both faiths. As I have done that, I have become more and more convinced of the validity of Christianity. I also study Judaism and that gives me further insight... and again shows me that Muhammad understood little about either Christianity or Judaism. Hence his rather simple "strawman" effort of building a Christianity which he can then reject! Remember, the Jews of Arabia saw through Muhammad very early on. They rejected him as a prophet. Hence his dislike and eventual murder and slaughter of the Jews.

I was also an atheist for over 30 years. So I know the atheist arguments against Christianity. Since coming to saving faith in the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, I look back an see how futile my fight against the obvious was. It is pride that stops most atheists believing.

Everyday Person wrote:
You will have no idea until you are dead, and even then I highly doubt youll be able to rise out of your grave, dust yourself off and come back to muslims and say "I told ya so!!!".

I have a very good idea before I am dead. I have experienced the saving grace and the love of my Lord Jesus Christ. I have studied the Bible and I trust that Jesus has risen. I trust God's Word. It is this assurance that gives me wonderful peace and joy (which passes all understanding). Philippians 4:7

I do not intend '"coming back" ... hence our Great Commission BEFORE we die... Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus said and Matthew wrote:
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age. Matthew 28:19-20


Anything to justify your spiteful intents gary :wink:

The reason God allows people to go to hell is that it is impossible for someone to receive love from someone they deny exits! Absolutely impossible.

But if they are confronted by him during their "judgement" after they die, then even the most stubborn athiest would accept his existance, and, if what preachers say is true, his "love".

Bit extreme sending them to an eternity of pain and suffering. Why not just send them back here for another life time until they wise up? Life in itself is no easy and 100% pleasurable experiance. If I was a "loving, merciful and forgiving" god, thats what Id do, as opposed to saying "Suck it up, you blew your chance and you dont love me, now burn for it"
 
Condemnation already hangs over people's heads BEFORE they die!

They that refuse to receive the Son of God in this life remain under condemnation.

It is to God's grace and mercy that anyone will be saved!

Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

God's judgement is just.
 
God's judgement is just.



No it isnt. Its just him throwing a tantrum that people dont believe in him. He sends people to an eternity of pain and suffering. An eternity! Thats forever spent in pain, burning and brimstone. The amount of time youve had on this planet is nothing compared to forever. All this for not liking a foul tempered entity that claims to be loving, caring, merciful and forgiving. It isnt just at all.
 
This was a double post.I had to delete one of them. Lately, I've been having problems with my messages double posting for some odd reason. sorry about that.
 
Gary,

I noticed that most of the people that dispute your messages here in this "Christian forum", are the ones who are either atheists, or agnostics, or of some other religion other than Christian, or they are not believers of the bible, it being understood from a true Christians perspective.
They are mostly people that have not studies the bible long or hard enough to have gotten the true message of the Gospel, The Good News of Jesus Christ. They either have have no idea of what the message Jesus taught is really about, or they are choosing to ignore it. :-?

Ironic isn't it? 8-)

My recommendation to them... Go re-read the bible all over again. Start with the New Testament. Nothing like being-Born again and saved by the all forgiving Mercy and Grace of Jesus when you finally get the message that is IN the pages of that book.

Where is there any Mercy in handing out death threats to people Just for the simple reason of speaking up about topic they disagree on?


Check out this TRUE story!
There was a girl in my neighborhood that was killed, Murdered, by her cousins because her father told them to kill her. All for the simple reason that she was thought to be flirting with some boys. So one night, after she got out of school, she was shot to death, by her cousin, right there in the street, as she was getting out of her car. They left her for dead. and they were found out by the police after some investigation. They were found guilty of premeditated murder, along with her father. They are serving their sentences in the United states and will be deported in the event they get early parole! I pray they never get out of jail! Because those types would never hesitate to kill anyone. Even if it is because of a rumour! According to investigation by police, upon talking to her friends and class mates, teachers and all the people around her, that girl was not even dating anyone nor was she flirting with anyone, and she was innocent! She was only 19 years old! How very sad to take a life just because of a rumour that was a lie.

According to that family, as told to police by the women of that family, is all that any person has to do is start a rumour about one of the women in the family and they are doomed to death! Even if the rumour isn't true!

Now I ask you this...What kind of living by Grace Mercy and forgivenesses that?

How can some of these people who dispute your messages even dare come up with saying you don't know if their religion is the right one or not?

Shocking, just absolutely shocking that they are so lacking in information about the Muslim religion and the extremists who abide by it to the max.

Yes, there are some Muslims that claim they don't follow through on all of laws in their Qur'an, but what kind of truth is that to live by if they deliberately ignore their bible because they say they don't do believe that part or they are not like those particular Muslims? :-?
I say it just is not! It's living by deception to the absolute truth of a "LOVING" GOD.





God Bless you Gary. The way in which you reach out to others in your work in your ministry is wonderful and much appreciated.

You have been blessed with much knowledge and wisdom . I appreciate your hard work and sincere love for others in wanting to helping them see the Good News that the New Testament brings to us through the Loving Mercy and Grace and total forgiveness through Christ our Lord Jesus Christ !

:)
 
Relic said:
Gary,

I noticed that most of the people that dispute your messages here in this "Christian forum", are the ones who are either atheists, or agnostics, or of some other religion other than Christian, or they are not believers of the bible, it being understood from a true Christians perspective.
They are mostly people that have not studies the bible long or hard enough to have gotten the true message of the Gospel, The Good News of Jesus Christ. They either have have no idea of what the message Jesus taught is really about, or they are choosing to ignore it. :-?

Ironic isn't it? 8-)
Hi Relic. I agree. I think most are too afraid to really consider the implications of Jesus' message.

Relic said:
My recommendation to them... Go re-read the bible all over again. Start with the New Testament. Nothing like being-Born again and saved by the all forgiving Mercy and Grace of Jesus when you finally get the message that is IN the pages of that book.
Good advise. Many of the atheists on these boards admit that they have not even read or studied the Bible!

Relic said:
Where is there any Mercy in handing out death threats to people Just for the simple reason of speaking up about topic they disagree on?
Muhammad did it. He handed out death threats and he carried them out. However, we know that truth is a very sharp sword. Hebrews 4:12-13
  • For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Relic said:
How can some of these people who dispute your messages even dare come up with saying you don't know if their religion is the right one or not?

Shocking, just absolutely shocking that they are so lacking in information about the Muslim religion and the extremists who abide by it to the max.
All we must continue to do is (a) expose the real Islam (b) share the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Relic said:
Yes, there are some Muslims that claim they don't follow through on all of laws in their Qur'an, but what kind of truth is that to live by if they deliberately ignore their bible because they say they don't do believe that part or they are not like those particular Muslims? :-?
I say it just is not! It's living by deception to the absolute truth of a "LOVING" GOD.
Unfortunately, we are all so easily fooled. Why not study Islam from its source documents (the Quran and the Hadith) and then study Muhammad's life... once you have done that, you can NEVER be fooled into believing that Islam is a religion of peace.

Relic said:
God Bless you Gary. The way in which you reach out to others in your work in your ministry is wonderful and much appreciated.

You have been blessed with much knowledge and wisdom . I appreciate your hard work and sincere love for others in wanting to helping them see the Good News that the New Testament brings to us through the Loving Mercy and Grace and total forgiveness through Christ our Lord Jesus Christ !
:)
Thanks again relic and thank you for your kind words and blessings. May you continue in your own search and understanding of our Lord Jesus Christ's work and may you and your loved ones be blessed.

Gary
 
The real story about Muhammad...

http://www.prophetofdoom.net

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Once you read that, you will understand what the battles today are really about.

Here is the whole book online:
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/toc.html

:o
 
Check out this TRUE story!
There was a girl in my neighborhood that was killed, Murdered, by her cousins because her father told them to kill her. All for the simple reason that she was thought to be flirting with some boys. So one night, after she got out of school, she was shot to death, by her cousin, right there in the street, as she was getting out of her car. They left her for dead. and they were found out by the police after some investigation. They were found guilty of premeditated murder, along with her father. They are serving their sentences in the United states and will be deported in the event they get early parole! I pray they never get out of jail! Because those types would never hesitate to kill anyone. Even if it is because of a rumour! According to investigation by police, upon talking to her friends and class mates, teachers and all the people around her, that girl was not even dating anyone nor was she flirting with anyone, and she was innocent! She was only 19 years old! How very sad to take a life just because of a rumour that was a lie.

According to that family, as told to police by the women of that family, is all that any person has to do is start a rumour about one of the women in the family and they are doomed to death! Even if the rumour isn't true!

Now I ask you this...What kind of living by Grace Mercy and forgivenesses that?

How can some of these people who dispute your messages even dare come up with saying you don't know if their religion is the right one or not?

Shocking, just absolutely shocking that they are so lacking in information about the Muslim religion and the extremists who abide by it to the max.

Yes, there are some Muslims that claim they don't follow through on all of laws in their Curran, but what kind of truth is that to live by if they deliberately ignore their bible because they say they don't do believe that part or they are not like those particular Muslims? :-?
I say it just is not! It's living by deception to the absolute truth of a "LOVING" GOD.

And here is another true story a couple of days ago a man from Iran shot his 2 children in cold blood and why his wife was about to divorce him and his message to the muslim women in Denmark is that you better stay with your husband or else you loose you children and he hid the children for 36 hours in the apartment before calling the police we have had honor killing here and in sweden one man killed his wife with a hammer in front of their children and why she wanted to divorce him be hit her so hard that the hammer was bend out of sharpe and guess what he wanted clemency because according to his custom and the Curran he was not guilty of any crime it was kind of his duty as a man, and one woman was halal slaughtered on the beach buried in the sand with only her head free and then her veins in her neck was cut with a knife and she was left along to bleed to death, and just the other day it also happen in Berlin what a religion that promot honor killing and child exploitation.
And it is so sad to se all this and nothing we can do about it but only the
HOLY SPIRIT can convince people of the truth we can only point to it namely YESHUA I have meet a man from Iran who had a visitation from YESHUA while he was in jail his cell light up like is had a 280 wat bulb and he called the jailer and ask for the New Testament and all by himself he
got saved and he started to evangelize in the jail both to muslims and rockers, he said that the muslims wanted to kill him but they couldn't get to him because he was protected. Women have been thrown out of windows because they did not want to marry the man their family said they should marry, even a man threw his pregnant wife out the window because he was angry with her
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA coming soon
chana
 
Gary_Bee said:
Many of us witness directly to Muslims, face to face. I doubt anyone would go to a mosque (where Muslims pray) to "challenge" Muslims. However, many of the leading Christian apologists have openly debated Muslims... often incurring the insults and physical threats that go along with those debates.

... and some people still think that Islam is a "peaceful religion"!!!

I think the west have not been told what recently happend to a group of Christains in Egypt who decided to embrace Islam.They were threatenend by Christians , they were even taken and locked up in churches and beaten by Christians for renouncing their faith. So much for those who claim death threats come from Islam and Hide whatever comes from theirs, they will not let you hear or read these truths.They try to portray theirs as better than Islam.They themselves they are not proper christians because they only pay Lip service to Christianity Look what the Bibles says to these people:
Matthew7:
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

Mt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Yes together with your lip service Jesus will tell you to go forth and Multiply,I don't know you. So insult Mohammed as much as you wish now.


Talking of peaceful religion check this out:

Lu 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
and why did jesus tell his disciples to buy swords? to play cops and robbers.?600 soldiers came to arrest him and his followers were to play hide and seek.Get real,he told them to arm themselves ready for the Big Jihad:

Lu 22:36 (AVRLE) Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
These truths are hidden from the people.

Gary_Bee said:
I understand that very well. However, I will continue to challenge Muslims who misuse and abuse the Bible to try and claim things for Islam which are NOT in the Bible. As the articles above show, most of that so-called "exegesis" is outright deception and lies. Jesus taught us to expose false prophets. He said we would "know them by their fruits." The fruits of Islam and Muhammad are rotten.

Yes, the faiths are mutually exclusive. Only one of them can be right.... or, as you correctly point out, both could be wrong. That is why I study both faiths. As I have done that, I have become more and more convinced of the validity of Christianity. I also study Judaism and that gives me further insight... and again shows me that Muhammad understood little about either Christianity or Judaism. Hence his rather simple "strawman" effort of building a Christianity which he can then reject! Remember, the Jews of Arabia saw through Muhammad very early on. They rejected him as a prophet. Hence his dislike and eventual murder and slaughter of the Jews.

Jesusand Moses too had warned their people of the evil of the Jews, Jesus knew them like the back of his hands he was sent to them, the Bible has loads of warnings against and to the Jews why hide them and say only what Mohamed said,The Bible is full of them, let the Bible Speak:

Deutronomy 9: 23 Likewise when the LORD sent you from Kadeshbarnea, saying, Go up and possess the land which I have given you; then ye rebelled against the commandment of the LORD your God, and ye believed him not, nor hearkened to his voice.
24 Ye have been rebellious against the LORD from the day that I knew you.


Are these compliments from Moses
Deut 31:27 For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death?

Very praiseworthy people.

Mt 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign;

Mt 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign;

Mr 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation;

mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Who was jesus referring to?
Mohamed only came and Endorsed what Jesus and Moses said.

So Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
And for those who like to slander the prophet Mohamed check out this link.
http://www.mind.net/dlmark/hundred.htm
it rates Prophet mohammed first about Jesus and above dear saint Paul, I wonder why?
Mohamed Number 1 above all other humans whether you like it or not :-D

Peace
:angel:
 
warner said:
Mohamed Number 1 above all other humans whether you like it or not ...

Really?? The Quran and the Hadith prove that Muhammad sinned. The Quran and the Bible prove that Jesus was sinless.

Muhammad was a licentious man, a murderer, barbaric and unethical, a liar and a hypocrite. He was deceitful, inconsistent, immoral, lustful, a polygamist, an adulterer. He had slaves and concubines, a low regard for women. He encouraged wife beating.

Muhammad had little regard for the value of human life, especially those who opposed or exposed him. He instituted Jihad and called for the death of all who opposed him or Islam. Muhammad sent his men to kill his opponents in the middle of the night using deceit and lies. He was an assassin.

He showed signs of physical, spiritual and mental derangement. He was delusional and even attempted suicide. His wife reported that he was bewitched.

Muhammad massacred his prisoners of war indiscriminately. He was a criminal and a mass murderer. Muhammad raided merchant caravans and stole their goods. He was a highway robber. Muhammad made and then broke treaties. He was dishonest.

Muhammad cursed people and preached hatred towards other human beings.

Muhammad captured human beings and sold them or asked for a payment of a ransom to release them. He was a slave merchant and a terrorist.

Muhammad was sex-mad. Muhammad, at the age of 53, became aroused by a 9-year-old child. He was a paedophile. Muhammad forced himself on a captured woman on the same day that he killed her father, husband and many of her relatives. He was a rapist.

Want proof? Read on... CLICK HERE: Who was Muhammad?

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