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NBC Has Announced That Jesus Christ Superstar Will Be Televised On Easter Sunday

HeIsRisen2018

HeIsRisen2018

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I just wanted to make this announcement for anybody who wasn't already aware of this news yet and hadn't seen it on my Easter thread. What does everybody think about this show? I personally love it and it's one of my favorite musicals and I really don't understand the controversy among Christians. All it does is show the human side of Jesus more. I mean, if you really thought that Jesus was always very eager to die on the cross for our sins then you are very much mistaken. He was just like any other human being. He didn't want to die, He only did it because it was God's plan for us and He loved us. He even mentions something about a cup being taken away from Him.



https://www.nbc.com/jesus-christ-superstar?nbc=1
 
I'm a trumpet player, so of course I'm biased in favor of this show. Just listen to those trumpet parts! So much fun to play, for those of us that can. And for those trumpet players that can't, it's something great to aspire to.

The controversy surrounding this show is that there is no resurrection.

Yeah, let that sink in. Just so you know.

This contributes greatly to what you've encountered here, fellow Christians down on Hollywood productions. For those not solid in their Faith, not yet familiar with the Creeds, seeing this might mess up their Faith; it's just not a source of good theology.

For those who've suffered a while and been strengthened, established in our Faith and settled by the process consistent with 1Peter 5:10, something like this isn't about to throw us off but we might find it distasteful.

Theater is great for bringing the humanity of it all into a clearer focus than you might get from reading! Here's a really interesting point for you, that might increase your understanding and help you conquer doubts:

most likely the 4 Gospels were 'performance pieces,' for decades before they were ever written down. What this means is nearly everyone in the congregation got involved. You'd have speaking roles sort of like a play. Places where our story has the crowd chanting, the congregation would join in. "Crucify Him," for example.

I even think it's likely that the differences in the Gospels are due to who was in charge, directing the 'performance piece.' One person would get burned out, they'd have to rotate; 3 months is long enough, so 4 Gospels get you through a year and you start the cycle over. Each director probably changed the cast of characters as well as which parts of the story he wanted to bring out, based on what was most important to him.

This isn't just my speculation, a lot of good scholarship has gone into trying to cipher the Gospels, and this view explains things best to many. This is NOT known as fact, nor is their unanimous agreement.

The important thing for you to know, for your own Faith, is that original Church in Jerusalem all KNEW the Gospel! They knew Jesus personally, He grew up and lived in their midst. So by the time the Gospel was written down 20+ years later it had to meet ALL of their approval. They weren't about to let mistakes slide by!!

Why the Gospels got written down in a format more like we have today is something I'd like to rattle on about, but I've given you a lot to chew on here already.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
Granted, I'm not a huge fan of Alice Cooper though. He's a little too strange for me.
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School's. Out. For. Summer!

Classic teen angst and rebellion. Coupled with ghoulish theatrics.

In his old age his career has morphed into having a radio show. He gives all sorts of interesting background to a wide variety of songs he then broadcasts. It's a refreshing change from most radio that always plays the same old stuff.

If you have conviction to only listen to Christian music, you're definitely better off sticking with that! And the music from Jesus Christ Superstar definitely counts as being Christian in nature.
 
No, I don't have conviction to only listen to Christian music. I listen to all different kinds of music. I do like that song of his that you just mentioned I just don't like the kind of person he is. Rather strange. I sort of have the same views of him as I did with Michael Jackson. As for the Jesus Christ Superstar musical, yeah I realize that it didn't have the resurrection and it was a bit unrealistic in some parts, but it was still an awesome musical and it captured more of the human side of Jesus. I still think it along with the School's Out song rocks!! :rocking






 
Here's the thing about the theme song for JCS: it asks some PROFOUND questions. We can use them as a topic for Holy meditation, which can lead to fervent prayer.
Unbelievers can use it to not only feed their doubts, but to make vicious attacks.

Choose this day whom you will serve!
 
Razeontherock said:
Here's the thing about the theme song for JCS: it asks some PROFOUND questions. We can use them as a topic for Holy meditation, which can lead to fervent prayer.
Unbelievers can use it to not only feed their doubts, but to make vicious attacks.

Choose this day whom you will serve!
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So I'm just wondering, do you support this musical or not because I really don't think that I quite understand what you're getting at. :confused
 
And just for the record, that was the worst version of Gethsemane I ever heard in my life! John Legend might be a good singer, but he couldn't hit the proper notes like Ted Neeley could.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
So I'm just wondering, do you support this musical or not because I really don't think that I quite understand what you're getting at. :confused
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Correct. Listen to "Gethsemane." Now THAT is a fun song to sing, and yes I can do it. (He doesn't sound as good as John Schlitt in Petra, but who does?)

That Jesus is entirely carnal. His motives are entirely carnal. Jesus did ask for our Father to take the cup from Him, and He did struggle over this. Medical science can explain literally sweating blood! It was stressful beyond our imagination, the beginning of His suffering, and I believe it was also the beginning of His descent into hell, in a spiritual sense. There's really not a good way to convey that onstage or film. They tried.

Look at Hosannah. They have Jesus not only singing it to Himself, but He has the lead and is louder than the crowd. This is NOT our Savior! It was the original body surfing though, lol.

It's a play. It's not a good source of theology. You can get wrong impressions from it. You can also reach out to God, being stirred by it.

It is human and like us is flawed, frail and in need of a Savior. He has not forsaken us; even though He was forsaken, He will not forsake us.

If the play turns you or anyone else to Scripture, GREAT. Just be sure to get your ideas from Scripture and not from this movie, or the play, or whatever they did tonight.

Godspell? It's not perfect either, but it's a little less controversial.
 
Razeontherock said:
Correct. Listen to "Gethsemane." Now THAT is a fun song to sing, and yes I can do it. (He doesn't sound as good as John Schlitt in Petra, but who does?)

That Jesus is entirely carnal. His motives are entirely carnal. Jesus did ask for our Father to take the cup from Him, and He did struggle over this. Medical science can explain literally sweating blood! It was stressful beyond our imagination, the beginning of His suffering, and I believe it was also the beginning of His descent into hell, in a spiritual sense. There's really not a good way to convey that onstage or film. They tried.

Look at Hosannah. They have Jesus not only singing it to Himself, but He has the lead and is louder than the crowd. This is NOT our Savior! It was the original body surfing though, lol.

It's a play. It's not a good source of theology. You can get wrong impressions from it. You can also reach out to God, being stirred by it.

It is human and like us is flawed, frail and in need of a Savior. He has not forsaken us; even though He was forsaken, He will not forsake us.

If the play turns you or anyone else to Scripture, GREAT. Just be sure to get your ideas from Scripture and not from this movie, or the play, or whatever they did tonight.

Godspell? It's not perfect either, but it's a little less controversial.
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Although I agree with you that Superstar is definitely flawed, you hit the nail right on the head. It's only a play and in terms of music, I think that it is a real good one. However, if you prefer accuracy you better skip it altogether and either watch The Passion or just read the Bible instead. I must say that I never even heard of Godspell before though.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
Although I agree with you that Superstar is definitely flawed, you hit the nail right on the head. It's only a play and in terms of music, I think that it is a real good one. However, if you prefer accuracy you better skip it altogether and either watch The Passion or just read the Bible instead. I must say that I never even heard of Godspell before though.
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My wife and I once ushered for an off-broadway production of Godspell,
 
Well there ya go! When you get a round tuit, look up Godspell on YouTube. It shaped part of a generation. I won't say it's a great source of theology, nor will I say the screaming high male rock vocals are as impressive or fun; but I do think it's also good, wholesome and fun music, with better theology.
 
This was a man, Lonnie Frisbee, who helped to establish my denomination.
 
That is the beautiful thing God gave us. Intellect. And the opportunity to exercise free choice. NBC broadcast it. People can choose not to watch.
Very often the issue people have with the faith is that it appears we who are in Christ think the whole world must turn according to our beliefs as to how it should go and according to our faith. That's not what God intended. The world is a backdrop for those in Christ to see how being in The Word and navigating the world with that armor on works. It puts a whole new perspective on how the world turns and how we live within it without being party to what is its trouble.

And how we live the example of being one's in Christ is what delivers the testimony to those of the world so that they then can witness our witnessing as those alive in Christ. And if any one of the worldly feel Christ calling them to his bosom and salvation we have done our part in bringing the everlasting covenant home to another.

NBC is. It does not mean anything.
 
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