Never Mock God

[Lewis]

God either allows a swift kick in the behind, or he does it himself. He is the supreme judge of all, and will allow or handle all that happens to his creation.

Solo mu good brother, I agree to the maximum.

 

[antitox]

Or perhaps we should refrain from arrogance and blasphemy simply because they're wrong in and of themselves?

Good idea. :smt023

Is it really necessary to demonstrate that God rewards mockery with a swift kick in the bum in order to assert that mocking him is wrong and unwise?

Sure. As a matter of fact, the bible records many examples of this. And I'm sure you could cite many examples if you wanted.

 

[Kefka]

If gambling were not a sin, I'd bet anything that this chain mail started out as a joke mail. But on another note, God does deal out punishment, just because you refuse to believe it doesn't make it so. It's stated in the bible, he's in charge... if he feels it to be necessary, he'll punish us. Also, those statements could've arguably been blasphemy against the holy spirit... and as we all know, God doesn't like that.

 

[antitox]

If gambling were not a sin, I'd bet anything that this chain mail started out as a joke mail. But on another note, God does deal out punishment, just because you refuse to believe it doesn't make it so. It's stated in the bible, he's in charge... if he feels it to be necessary, he'll punish us. Also, those statements could've arguably been blasphemy against the holy spirit... and as we all know, God doesn't like that.

Exactly, which is why I stated early on that only God knows what's going on in the heart of a person. Only He knows the true intent of their remarks.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

If gambling were not a sin, I'd bet anything that this chain mail started out as a joke mail. But on another note, God does deal out punishment, just because you refuse to believe it doesn't make it so. It's stated in the bible, he's in charge... if he feels it to be necessary, he'll punish us. Also, those statements could've arguably been blasphemy against the holy spirit... and as we all know, God doesn't like that.

Where does the Bible identify gambling as a sin?

Hint......... it doesn't.

 

[Lewis]

Where does the Bible identify gambling as a sin?

Hint......... it doesn't.

The sin is that it is, addictive therefore controlling you, in which you allowed therefore becoming sin. After a while it becomes your god, and it consumes you. And God said that He is a jealous God.

 

[Lewis]

Where does the Bible identify gambling as a sin?

Hint......... it doesn't.

The sin is that it is, addictive therefore controlling you, in which you allowed therefore becoming sin. After a while it becomes your god, and it consumes you. And God said that He is a jealous God.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

Where does the Bible identify gambling as a sin?

Hint......... it doesn't.

The sin is that it is, addictive therefore controlling you, in which you allowed therefore becoming sin. After a while it becomes your god, and it consumes you. And God said that He is a jealous God.

Many are addicted to food. Is eating a sin?

Many are addicted to cross stitch and spend lots of time on it. Is cross stitchin a sin?

Many are addicted to sex. Is sex a sin?

Etc etc etc....


Gambling is not a sin just because it can be addictive. Allowing anything to control you and be more important then God is a sin.

 

[Lewis]

If what you do consumes you, in which you allowed yeah it's a sin Lyric, and yes it could be even food.

 

[antitox]

ANYTHING can be sin-related if it is allowed to control you or drive you to excess.

 

[Heidi]

so your sayign that god inspired soemoen to murder john lennon>?

are you saying, that, just to spite the designer of the titanic, he murdered all of those people?


wow, I mean, God loves his creation right?

http://www.abcopad.org/abcopad/home.nsf ... enDocument

Had the ecclesiastics of the Church of San Nazaro in Brecia given in to repeated urgings to install a lightning rod, they might have averted a terrible catastrophe. The Republic of Venice had stored in the vaults of this church several thousand pounds of gunpowder. In 1767, 17 years after Franklin's discovery, no rod having been placed on the church, it was struck by lightning and the gunpowder exploded. One-sixth of the city was destroyed and over 3,000 lives were lost because the priests refused to install the "heretical rod."

In Ottumwa, lightning struck a church steeple, knocking it down and causing about $5,000 in damage.

http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_lls/incidents.html


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 209223.stm
look, Gibsons actors get struck by lighting.


Christian priest murdered in Laos
From correspondents in Hanoi
January 02, 2006

AN evangelical Protestant pastor was killed in Laos late last month, an official spokesman in Vientiane said Monday, confirming an exiled group's report.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/co ... 09,00.html



Brazilian priest murdered in Rio
Map of Rio de Janeiro state, Brazil
A Brazilian priest who campaigned for the families of 29 people allegedly killed by rogue police officers has been shot dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4716363.stm


Cleveland priest shot to death, then burned beyond recognition in his office
Cleveland police announced this morning that they had arrested a suspect for the murder of William Gulas, pastor of St. Stanislaus Church. But as Weblog filed this morning's report, they still hadn't named a motive.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/148/12.0.html

so, it seems to show that christians, that speak the word of god, Feel gods wrath just as often, if not more than atheists ehh?

How can someone receive love from someone he denies exists? :o It's impossible. God's love is still there for all who accept it. But those who mock him for it, can never receive it. All animals understand why they shouldn't bite the hand that feeds them. You have a lot to learn from those animals.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

If what you do consumes you, in which you allowed yeah it's a sin Lyric, and yes it could be even food.

But you specifically identified sin as being a sin. No qualifiers. Just outright sin. Now, maybe it is for you but I do not have an issue with it and when I pass through Vegas, I will drop a few nickles in the slot or play a round of blackjack. I can take it or leave it.

I just think we should watch what we condemn. Someone weaker in the faith could be shaken.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

How can someone receive love from someone he denies exists? :o It's impossible. God's love is still there for all who accept it. But those who mock him for it, can never receive it. All animals understand why they shouldn't bite the hand that feeds them. You have a lot to learn from those animals.

So your god is not really loving at all then.

Sorry, my God IS love and loves unconditionally. He sent His only begotten Son to die and become the Savior of the WORLD which is filled with those who hated Him.

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Do you see that? We were in rebellion and He still commended His love toward us.

What a petty god that would say "I won't love you unless you love me first."

No, He is the One who pours out His love.

 

[antitox]

How can someone receive love from someone he denies exists? :o It's impossible. God's love is still there for all who accept it. But those who mock him for it, can never receive it. All animals understand why they shouldn't bite the hand that feeds them. You have a lot to learn from those animals.

So your god is not really loving at all then.

Sorry, my God IS love and loves unconditionally. He sent His only begotten Son to die and become the Savior of the WORLD which is filled with those who hated Him.

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Do you see that? We were in rebellion and He still commended His love toward us.

What a petty god that would say "I won't love you unless you love me first."

No, He is the One who pours out His love.

So it's love with no accountability, right Lyric? Is that how parents should raise their children?

 

[Lyric's Dad]

How can someone receive love from someone he denies exists? :o It's impossible. God's love is still there for all who accept it. But those who mock him for it, can never receive it. All animals understand why they shouldn't bite the hand that feeds them. You have a lot to learn from those animals.

So your god is not really loving at all then.

Sorry, my God IS love and loves unconditionally. He sent His only begotten Son to die and become the Savior of the WORLD which is filled with those who hated Him.

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Do you see that? We were in rebellion and He still commended His love toward us.

What a petty god that would say "I won't love you unless you love me first."

No, He is the One who pours out His love.

So it's love with no accountability, right Lyric? Is that how parents should raise their children?

Who said that?

So, did you wait for your child to love you so you could love back?

Does holding a child accountable mean there is not love?

Does a loving parent hold their child in the fire for eternity?

And how is burning someone forever holding them accountable? It is just merely being a monster. Yes, I believe there is punishment to be meted out but it is for the purpose of bringing that one back, not just to cause them suffering and unending at that. That kind of non-sense would serve no purpose at all.

No, there is accountability but it is present BECAUSE God loves us, not in spite of it.

 

[antitox]

So it's love with no accountability, right Lyric? Is that how parents should raise their children?

Who said that?

So, did you wait for your child to love you so you could love back?

Does holding a child accountable mean there is not love?

Does a loving parent hold their child in the fire for eternity?

And how is burning someone forever holding them accountable? It is just merely being a monster. Yes, I believe there is punishment to be meted out but it is for the purpose of bringing that one back, not just to cause them suffering and unending at that. That kind of non-sense would serve no purpose at all.

No, there is accountability but it is present BECAUSE God loves us, not in spite of it.

A couple of things you now mention..yes...there is discipline with love, and it's good to know that we are on that same page, at least to a degree, then.
It is clear with God that though He is love, he will deal with insurgents, rebellion, and the like.
Now this thread isn't about eternal punishment over an offense. It is about mocking God. And it can bring about retribution in this life as well. God's foundation is justice and righteousness.(Ps 89 & 97) You can't have one without the other. There has to be JUSTICE in the mix. It's His nature. He does not violate His own nature, which is what the bible is referring to when it says He doesn't change.

I believe that for the most part, God allows man's own sin to overtake him, but He can allow the lines to fall a certain way in the circumstances that vindicate Him and His word.

 

[Eskarina]

God has a sense of humour. He has to. He made the platypus after all, and that's just ridiculous.

My friends often refer to my weekly home group meeting as going to see the other man in my life.

I talk to God flat out, if I'm feeling really happy then I'll laugh and joke.

I tell religious jokes frequently, even if they mock God or Christianity. I don't see a problem with it because it is obvious to everyone I'm with that it is only a joke. They are well aware of my strong Christian beliefs. As long as they aren't offensive, then I believe God sees us enjoy them and smiles on our innocent joy.

My friends and I have set up whole gaming metaphors in which God is the DM and we're the PC's.

You have a problem if you can't laugh at your own religion.

 

[antitox]

God has a sense of humour. He has to. He made the platypus after all, and that's just ridiculous.

My friends often refer to my weekly home group meeting as going to see the other man in my life.

I talk to God flat out, if I'm feeling really happy then I'll laugh and joke.

I tell religious jokes frequently, even if they mock God or Christianity. I don't see a problem with it because it is obvious to everyone I'm with that it is only a joke. They are well aware of my strong Christian beliefs. As long as they aren't offensive, then I believe God sees us enjoy them and smiles on our innocent joy.

My friends and I have set up whole gaming metaphors in which God is the DM and we're the PC's.

You have a problem if you can't laugh at your own religion.

You're on your own.

 

[Eskarina]

God has a sense of humour. He has to. He made the platypus after all, and that's just ridiculous.

My friends often refer to my weekly home group meeting as going to see the other man in my life.

I talk to God flat out, if I'm feeling really happy then I'll laugh and joke.

I tell religious jokes frequently, even if they mock God or Christianity. I don't see a problem with it because it is obvious to everyone I'm with that it is only a joke. They are well aware of my strong Christian beliefs. As long as they aren't offensive, then I believe God sees us enjoy them and smiles on our innocent joy.

My friends and I have set up whole gaming metaphors in which God is the DM and we're the PC's.

You have a problem if you can't laugh at your own religion.

You're on your own.

Correction: I just don't have your support. I know I'm not alone.

 

[antitox]

Correction: I just don't have your support. I know I'm not alone.

Well should I support someone who admittedly says he mocks God?.