No Liars Will Be in Heaven

[(THE)]

Christians are not bound under the laws of Israel.

THats wierd ,,,because I have friends that are christians and are of Israel....I think you might be a little confused as to what "Israel" is....

 

[ronniechoate34]

Let me see if I have this straight. Some of you believe that since Jesus Christ became the propitiation for our sins that God has changed. God now accepts worship in all forms as long as,,,,what? You put Jesus into the mix? I don't understand this doctrine. If God never changes then why in the would He not care anymore whether or not we worshiped Him in a manner that He finds abominable? When did God change His mind and decide that it would be okay for us to worship Him in a manner that pagans worship? Where did this idea come from?


I realize that the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins and that we are saved by grace and not through the letter of the law. Okay. I've got that part. But when did God change though? Even Jesus stated that God seeks those that worship in spirit and truth. That sounds like the God of the Old Testament to me.


Serving God is a pleasure and the law is good. That's how I feel about it.

 

[LostSoul]

Let me see if I have this straight. Some of you believe that since Jesus Christ became the propitiation for our sins that God has changed. God now accepts worship in all forms as long as,,,,what? You put Jesus into the mix? I don't understand this doctrine. If God never changes then why in the would He not care anymore whether or not we worshiped Him in a manner that He finds abominable? When did God change His mind and decide that it would be okay for us to worship Him in a manner that pagans worship? Where did this idea come from?


I realize that the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins and that we are saved by grace and not through the letter of the law. Okay. I've got that part. But when did God change though? Even Jesus stated that God seeks those that worship in spirit and truth. That sounds like the God of the Old Testament to me.


Serving God is a pleasure and the law is good. That's how I feel about it.

Where did I ever say that we believe in Jesus and sin is not a concern anymore? I do not recall ever saying that. Think too many times there is misinterpretation of people's posts. I was merely saying that if we are to believe all liars are not going to be forgiven and go to Hell...then seeing as most, if not all of us have told a lie...thus making us all liars...then none of us are going to Heaven. Which also would contradict other parts of scripture.... All I am trying to say is that more or less, we are saved from the fires of Hell because of our faith in Jesus. But having faith in Jesus is not just a matter of simply believing, it is a matter of living for Jesus too.

 

[ronniechoate34]

Let me see if I have this straight. Some of you believe that since Jesus Christ became the propitiation for our sins that God has changed. God now accepts worship in all forms as long as,,,,what? You put Jesus into the mix? I don't understand this doctrine. If God never changes then why in the would He not care anymore whether or not we worshiped Him in a manner that He finds abominable? When did God change His mind and decide that it would be okay for us to worship Him in a manner that pagans worship? Where did this idea come from?


I realize that the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins and that we are saved by grace and not through the letter of the law. Okay. I've got that part. But when did God change though? Even Jesus stated that God seeks those that worship in spirit and truth. That sounds like the God of the Old Testament to me.


Serving God is a pleasure and the law is good. That's how I feel about it.

Where did I ever say that we believe in Jesus and sin is not a concern anymore? I do not recall ever saying that. Think too many times there is misinterpretation of people's posts. I was merely saying that if we are to believe all liars are not going to be forgiven and go to Hell...then seeing as most, if not all of us have told a lie...thus making us all liars...then none of us are going to Heaven. Which also would contradict other parts of scripture.... All I am trying to say is that more or less, we are saved from the fires of Hell because of our faith in Jesus. But having faith in Jesus is not just a matter of simply believing, it is a matter of living for Jesus too.

I wasn't really addressing you. But since you posted a response to me I will now.


There will not be any liar in heaven that didn't repent and work out their salvation with fear and trembling before the Lord Jesus Christ. People who do that tend to tell the truth more often than not. And if they do tell a lie they don't live it out, they repent and turn around.

 

[Biblereader]

There was a time when people were wary and did take matters of the Spirit very seriously. Because they had received the truth. Today it's just not that way so much anymore. Now anything goes and the has gone out the window. Why? .

Might I add that the road is straight and narrow, and the closer we get to Jesus's return, the FEWER people there will be on that road.
Don't be surprised when you see that "Christian" getting the mark of the beast, in their right hand, or forehead.

 

[Biblereader]

There will not be any liar in heaven that didn't repent and work out their salvation with fear and trembling before the Lord Jesus Christ. People who do that tend to tell the truth more often than not. And if they do tell a lie they don't live it out, they repent and turn around.

Like I said, ronnie, the path is NARROW, and FEW there be that find it.

FEW. The number is getting smaller and smaller, as people are leaving the straight and narrow,
for the broad path.

You know where the broad path leads to.

 

[JoshuaDaniel]

This conversation is sad...You fight against your own body...Is it profitable for a man to beat himself...we are all members of the same body...The blood of Yeshua covers all sins, but 1...and that sin is not lying...

 

[Stormcrow]

I'm just curious how this topic ended up in the "End Times" forum.

 

[Stormcrow]

It's these "new age" bibles that have caused most of this false doctrine to be taught.

Ironic that you would write that given that many of the "false doctrines" surrounding eschatology are promoted here by some of the brashest "thumpers" of the KJV I've ever seen. Anywhere. :shocked!

 

[Stormcrow]

Well, yeah, after all...the KJV is what Jesus read from, right? :gah

Actually, He, the disciples, and most of the early church probably read from that most evil of all translations, the "Septuagint."

GASP!!!!! ;)