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26: And they arrived at the country of the Gadarenes, which is over against Galilee.
27: And when he went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long time, and ware no clothes, neither abode in any house, but in the tombs.
28: When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
29: (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.)
30: And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
 
What is a "chronic" nudists?

Everytime (chronic?) I take a shower I am not clothed (nudist?).

Does this mean that I am demon possesssed when I take a shower?
 
RadicalReformer said:
What is a "chronic" nudists?

Everytime (chronic?) I take a shower I am not clothed (nudist?).

Does this mean that I am demon possesssed when I take a shower?
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What ridiculous questions.

Are you a nudist?

Chronic: constant; habitual; inveterate: a chronic liar.
2. continuing a long time or recurring frequently

Do you get it, now?
 
Biblereader said:
RadicalReformer said:
What is a "chronic" nudists?

Everytime (chronic?) I take a shower I am not clothed (nudist?).

Does this mean that I am demon possesssed when I take a shower?
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What ridiculous questions.

Are you a nudist?

Chronic: constant; habitual; inveterate: a chronic liar.
2. continuing a long time or recurring frequently

Do you get it, now?
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No... I really do not get it - because this post seems to have come out of nowhere. I realize that I just started posting here, but I do not understand that point of the post.

According to your definition (recurring frequently) - everyone who takes bathes naked daily could be seen as a chronic nudists.

Not to mention that they way you parsed the Scriptures, anyone who is homeless could be considered "demonic possessed".

Perhaps it is your post that is 'ridiculous' and a misuse of Scripture.
 
A nudist is one who walks around naked in front of many others. A nudist goes to "camps" so he can walk naked in front of strangers and friends.
A nudist has a skewed way of thinking.

If clothing was bad, as nudists sometimes claim, why is there scripture about what a woman is supposed to wear?
Why did Jesus do all of his ministry completely clothed? Willingly clothed?
Why is there verse after verse warning people to NOT be naked, in the Old Testament?
Clothing is good. Nudists, naturists, nudist camp members, are wicked and causing confusion and sin in so many ways.

Why were the gadarene demonaics naked all the time?
The point of this post is to shine a light of truth on the blasphemers who say being naked is
just fine, and Godly.
I've heard from Christians that nudism, walking around family members, and strangers, stark naked, whenever they feel the compulsion, is just fine.
That's a lie of the devil, and from my study of the Bible, anyone who habitually refuses to be clothed, is possessed of the devil.
 
Biblereader said:
A nudist is one who walks around naked in front of many others. A nudist goes to "camps" so he can walk naked in front of strangers and friends.
A nudist has a skewed way of thinking.

If clothing was bad, as nudists sometimes claim, why is there scripture about what a woman is supposed to wear?
Why did Jesus do all of his ministry completely clothed? Willingly clothed?
Why is there verse after verse warning people to NOT be naked, in the Old Testament?
Clothing is good. Nudists, naturists, nudist camp members, are wicked and causing confusion and sin in so many ways.

Why were the gadarene demonaics naked all the time?
The point of this post is to shine a light of truth on the blasphemers who say being naked is
just fine, and Godly.
I've heard from Christians that nudism, walking around family members, and strangers, stark naked, whenever they feel the compulsion, is just fine.
That's a lie of the devil, and from my study of the Bible, anyone who habitually refuses to be clothed, is possessed of the devil.
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That may be - however, the verse that you quoted and how you used does not support your claim.

Proper usuage of Scripture is important.
 
Biblereader said:
All chronic nudists are demon possessed.

Anyone in the bible who walked around naked was a raving lunatic, with no sense of moral or social
right.

26: And they arrived at the country of the Gadarenes, which is over against Galilee.
27: And when he went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long time, and ware no clothes, neither abode in any house, but in the tombs.
28: When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
29: (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.)
30: And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.

And, line upon line, precept upon precept:
4: Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God.
5: Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
6: None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.
7: The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
8: The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.
9: The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.
10: The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness.
11: The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
12: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.
13: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman.
14: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt.
15: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
16: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.
17: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.
18: Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.
19: Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness.
20: Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her.
21: And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
22: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
23: Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
24: Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26: Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)

God has not changed. Nudity is still wickedness, being naked in front of anyone other than your spouse is sin.
Adultery begins as a sin of the eyes.
Porn, rape, incest, etc., all are because man refuses to obey God.
THE LESS CLOTHES A MAN (OR WOMAN) WEARS, THE FARTHER AWAY THEY ARE FROM GOD.
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Adam and Eve were nudists in the Garden of Eden. God made man nude and said that his creation was good. We all come into the world nude. God walked with nude Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden in the cool of the day in Genesis 3: 8.

Shame with nudity entered with sin. Many people cannot handle seeing nude people, but nudists obviously have no problem with it. It is just a matter of perspective. If you sexualize it then it is wrong. Nudity for a nudist isn't sexual. The same could be said for doctors and artists who paint nude people.

Making broad general statements of condemnation are not only wrong, but they are unhealthy. Nudity is alright and even proper in certain circumstances. It is the mind that corrupts what is natural.

God commanded one of his prophets (Isaiah 20) to live the life of a nudist and God cannot sin, so nudity cannot be a sin. Nudists are a cross section of society. They come from all walks of life and many are strongly Christian. They do not see a conflict because they do not see nudity as sexual.

The YMCA used to mandate nude swimming. Skinny dipping is a common practice and the majority of adults confess to skinny dipping at one time, many of them in mixed gender groups.

Anything is wrong if it leads you to sin. If seeing someone else nude leads you to lust, then it is wrong for you. If you can handle it without having lust in your heart then it isn't wrong in itself. You cannot make something universal just because it is wrong for you.

I am not advocating nudism, but am merely responding to the concerns raised by this posting. There is not commandment against nudism, but legalists like to make rules about many things which make them uncomfortable rather than dealing with their own inadequacy.

Like other respondents I wonder what sparked this tirade against nudism. I wonder if you approach everything in this way. If you like a black and white world and lots of rules, then maybe you need to examine your brand of Christianity. Muslims and Jews live by following laws, but we live by the Holy Spirit.

Blessings,
Dunamite
 
Dunamite said:
... Adam and Eve were nudists in the Garden of Eden. God made man nude and said that his creation was good. We all come into the world nude. God walked with nude Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden in the cool of the day in Genesis 3: 8.

Shame with nudity entered with sin. Many people cannot handle seeing nude people, but nudists obviously have no problem with it. It is just a matter of perspective. If you sexualize it then it is wrong. Nudity for a nudist isn't sexual. The same could be said for doctors and artists who paint nude people.

Making broad general statements of condemnation are not only wrong, but they are unhealthy. Nudity is alright and even proper in certain circumstances. It is the mind that corrupts what is natural.

God commanded one of his prophets (Isaiah 20) to live the life of a nudist and God cannot sin, so nudity cannot be a sin. Nudists are a cross section of society. They come from all walks of life and many are strongly Christian. They do not see a conflict because they do not see nudity as sexual....

Blessings,
Dunamite
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I ran across this quote on Friday. I know some here scoff at anything that comes from the RCC, but here it is anyway:

Pope John Paul II, while still a Polish Cardinal wrote: “Nakedness itself is not immodest… Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a negative role with regard to the value of the person, when its aim is to arouse concupiscence, as a result of which the person is put in the position of an object for enjoyment.â€Â
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Sorry Handy, I shouldn't have posted my twisted humor from movie scenes.

Nudity can be an issue for some. My wife sews and she had a customer for 5 or 6 years that takes a nude boat cruise each year that docks at the island Hedonism II. Each year, my wife would sew this guys themed costume looking for an oportunity to share God's word with him. This year, at his prompting, we sat him down and had a good talk with him because he was just so empty inside and the cruise wasn't filling his void.

Again, some people really have a problem with nudity, and I shouldn't have been so quick to pop off a stupid line from a movie scene. Sorry.
 
Actually my comments were in regards to some posts that I deleted. I took your post for exactly what it was, humor. :wink:
 
face it, nudity is another one of man's lies to himself, and to others. Nudity causes adultery, fornication, and confusion.
A family member is not to be naked in front of his children, or his relatives, nor is ANY person to be unclothed and walking around with other nudists.

Nudism, nudist camps, and all such, are a sin.

Is there a man alive who is able to be naked, and NOT think lustful thoughts, around other naked women and / or men, whatever his leaning is.
Nudism is another word, in my opinion, for pornography.
 
God created the human body. We enter the world without a stitch of clothes. So obviously it is not the human body that is sinful.

What is wrong is when someone uses their body or another's body and makes it a temptation. In a non-fallen world, we wouldn't need clothes. But, sadly, we aren't in Eden. So it doesn't really matter that the human body is beautiful and good.

John Paul II is also quoted as saying about pornography that the problem is not that it shows to much, but that it shows to little. Think about it, he's right. Pornography, nudists, etc all just see the body there. It is an item. It doesn't show the soul that is there, the beautiful human. It's objectification.

Of course, it's no accident that 99.99% of nudists (maybe all of the) are materialists in the philosophical sense. All they see is matter! So misguided.
 
John Paul II is also quoted as saying about pornography that the problem is not that it shows to much, but that it shows to little. Think about it, he's right. Pornography, nudists, etc all just see the body there. It is an item. It doesn't show the soul that is there, the beautiful human. It's objectification.
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This is a wise observation. And, no matter how 'pure' some nudists might be, I believe that there can be no getting away from the fact that few can view the naked body, and see it without either lust or objectification. Perhaps some can, but I don't think many can.

BTW, welcome darkwater!
 
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