[__ Science __ ] Old Earth vs. Young Earth

[Rodger]

For many hundreds of years, Old Earth and Young Earth views have been debated back and forth. I have NO expectations of that paradox being solved here, however it can be a stimulating topic. It is also a topic that requires an answer as it usually plays a part in trying to lead a lost person to Christ.

Old Earth and Young Earth represent differing interpretations of the biblical creation account surrounding the science that has come forward in the past 100 years concerning "Dinasour" fossils.

Old Earth sees vast amounts of time spanning billions of years. Various scientific dating methods, and archeology and geographical evidence place the age of the earth around 4.5 billion years and the age of the universe around 14.6 billion years.

However, Young Earth other contends for a timeline of only around Six to Ten thousand years since the universe’s origin based on genealogy records in the Bible. .

The hinge point is how the “days” in Genesis are understood, whether as literal 24-hour days or extended geological periods.

To be clear, the Hebrew word “yom” can refer to DAY or it can refer to an AGE or ERA.

The options to solve the apparent conflict are as follows:
1. the Bible is wrong,
2. the Bible is being interpreted incorrectly, or the
3. scientific data is being interpreted incorrectly.
4. There was a Creation before Genesis 1:1

Neither old earth creationism nor young earth creationism teaches that the Bible is wrong. Generally speaking, both old earth and young earth creationists believe in the inspiration, inerrancy, and authority of God’s Word.

Now if you believe that the Young Earth position is the right one, then you "must" also accept as a fact, that Adam and Eve lived with dinosaurs and that Noah had them on the Ark even though there is NO Biblical record of either one.

What say YOU?

 

[hawkman]

Was there people and dinosaurs alive at the same time , lots of evidence points to yes they were .

Ancient Dinosaur Depictions | Genesis Park

www.genesispark.com

 

[Free]

For many hundreds of years, Old Earth and Young Earth views have been debated back and forth. I have NO expectations of that paradox being solved here, however it can be a stimulating topic. It is also a topic that requires an answer as it usually plays a part in trying to lead a lost person to Christ.

Old Earth and Young Earth represent differing interpretations of the biblical creation account surrounding the science that has come forward in the past 100 years concerning "Dinasour" fossils.

Old Earth sees vast amounts of time spanning billions of years. Various scientific dating methods, and archeology and geographical evidence place the age of the earth around 4.5 billion years and the age of the universe around 14.6 billion years.

However, Young Earth other contends for a timeline of only around Six to Ten thousand years since the universe’s origin based on genealogy records in the Bible. .

The hinge point is how the “days” in Genesis are understood, whether as literal 24-hour days or extended geological periods.

To be clear, the Hebrew word “yom” can refer to DAY or it can refer to an AGE or ERA.

The options to solve the apparent conflict are as follows:
1. the Bible is wrong,
2. the Bible is being interpreted incorrectly, or the
3. scientific data is being interpreted incorrectly.
4. There was a Creation before Genesis 1:1

Neither old earth creationism nor young earth creationism teaches that the Bible is wrong. Generally speaking, both old earth and young earth creationists believe in the inspiration, inerrancy, and authority of God’s Word.

Now if you believe that the Young Earth position is the right one, then you "must" also accept as a fact, that Adam and Eve lived with dinosaurs and that Noah had them on the Ark even though there is NO Biblical record of either one.

What say YOU?

The Old Earth position can also be argued from a literal seven-day week, 24-hour day position, so it isn't just on the meaning of "day." It's a matter of what Gen. 1:1 is saying and when the first day of creation began.

 

[Rodger]

The Old Earth position can also be argued from a literal seven-day week, 24-hour day position, so it isn't just on the meaning of "day." It's a matter of what Gen. 1:1 is saying and when the first day of creation began.

Agreed.

I think it’s helpful to understand that the question “how old is the earth?” is not something directly answered in Scripture but rather deduced from several factors such as ...........
(1) Genesis 1:1 is not the actual act of creation but rather a summary of or title over Genesis 1:2-2:3;
(2) the creation week of Genesis 1:2-2:3 is referring to the act of creation itself;
(3) each “day” (Heb. yom) of the creation week is referring to an 24-hour period of time
(4) an old-earth geology would entail macroevolution, hominids, and animal death before the Fall
(5) the approximate age of the earth can be reconstructed backward from the genealogical time-

 

[Rodger]

Was there people and dinosaurs alive at the same time , lots of evidence points to yes they were .

Ancient Dinosaur Depictions | Genesis Park

www.genesispark.com

From what I saw on the site you posted.....I see NO evidence there to prove there were dinosaurs at the same time.

Maybe I missed something.

Now, I am not taking a position here, only asking questions for others to state why they believe what they believe.

Do you, since there is NO Biblical evidence of Adam and Eve living with dinosaurs, is that your personal position?

 

[hawkman]

Maybe I missed something.

Could be . Someone drew on the rocks figures that looked just like dinosaurs , coincidence or a great imagination maybe ?
How about a mosaic dinosaur depiction .

The Nile Mosaic of Palestrina | Genesis Park

www.genesispark.com

o you, since there is NO Biblical evidence of Adam and Eve living with dinosaurs, is that your personal position?

But is there Biblical evidence of dinosaurs ? Could be .

Biblical Evidence | Genesis Park

www.genesispark.com

 

[hawkman]

 

[follower]

I see NO evidence there to prove there were dinosaurs at the same time.

Maybe I missed something.

Maybe missed what the Creator Says in His Word Unchanging.
Adam was created to reproduce after his own kind. (man begets man).
Adam names all the animals.
Dinosaurs (or lizards/crocidles/agitators) were created to reproduce after their own kind . (each begets itself/same as).
Adam named all the dinosaurs.
How could Adam name them if they did not alive at the same time ?
Yahweh Says Yahweh Created All things simple. It twas man/men/mankind who came up with distracting ideas.

 

[Free]

Agreed.

I think it’s helpful to understand that the question “how old is the earth?” is not something directly answered in Scripture but rather deduced from several factors such as ...........
(1) Genesis 1:1 is not the actual act of creation but rather a summary of or title over Genesis 1:2-2:3;

Or Gen. 1:1 is the actual initial act of creation, aka the "Big Bang."

(2) the creation week of Genesis 1:2-2:3 is referring to the act of creation itself;

Or Gen. 1:2-31 gives further acts of creation post "Big Bang."

(4) an old-earth geology would entail macroevolution, hominids, and animal death before the Fall

Not necessarily. A very long time could have passed between Gen. 1:1 and 1:2. It could also be that the 24-hour days, if that's what they are, could have been separated by very lengthy periods of time, or they could have been made a literal seven day week closer to the middle or end of creation.

There are a number of ways of looking at things, while still remaining true to Scripture.