[__ Prayer __] Old Friend Is Sick :(

[Claudya]

Ah, thank you brothers and sisters! Bless you all! The update is that she began getting better right away and the complications are essentially gone. they have kept her in the hospital for a few extra days for observation but the prayers have obviously helped our sister. praise the Lord!

Hehe, seems I've seen this thread too late to join the prayer team. On second thought, such a fast healing is a great reason to be too late.
Praise God, and let's pray for her continued recovery.
Also praying you will get an understanding of the breakthrough thing and grasp what God is telling you. Maybe God is giving you a little puzzle here so the knowledge you gain will have a deeper impact on your mind because you figured it out yourself.

 

[Edward]

Ah, thank you Claudya. Your continued prayers for her continued recovery would be helpful and greatly appreciated. Bless you. I've been sitting here thinking about this breakthrough thing, and almost everything has to do with obedience and seeking first the Kingdom of God within ones life and relationship. This almost has to be it. I need to keep pressing forward, pressing forward, pressing forward.Drawing closer to God. Doing more good works, praying, and fasting. Yes, maybe it's time to fast again.

 

[Claudya]

Ah, thank you Claudya. Your continued prayers for her continued recovery would be helpful and greatly appreciated. Bless you. I've been sitting here thinking about this breakthrough thing, and almost everything has to do with obedience and seeking first the Kingdom of God within ones life and relationship. This almost has to be it. I need to keep pressing forward, pressing forward, pressing forward.Drawing closer to God. Doing more good works, praying, and fasting. Yes, maybe it's time to fast again.

It's lent time soon, many people still go through a time of fasting during lent.

As for the breakthrough, maybe it's just about overcoming a period of spiritual stagnation?

 

[Edward]

It's lent time soon, many people still go through a time of fasting during lent.

As for the breakthrough, maybe it's just about overcoming a period of spiritual stagnation?

I don't think I'm stagnating. Nevertheless...I'm not going to dismiss what you say, but rather go introspective and ponder your words and consider the possibility carefully. Maybe you see something I don't within myself.

 

[Claudya]

I don't think I'm stagnating. Nevertheless...I'm not going to dismiss what you say, but rather go introspective and ponder your words and consider the possibility carefully. Maybe you see something I don't within myself.

Well from what I can tell I also don't think you are stagnating, so it was a bit of a guess. People often experience some stagnation (or even regression!) when they continuously work on getting better and stronger at something, or gain a deeper understanding of something. It's part of a complex learning process. Often it's more a perception thing than a real stagnation. Usually when they overcome those times they feel like having a breakthrough and make a leap forward on their path.

 

[Edward]

Well from what I can tell I also don't think you are stagnating, so it was a bit of a guess. People often experience some stagnation (or even regression!) when they continuously work on getting better and stronger at something, or gain a deeper understanding of something. It's part of a complex learning process. Often it's more a perception thing than a real stagnation. Usually when they overcome those times they feel like having a breakthrough and make a leap forward on their path.

Interesting. You know something, problems or no problems you have a real sharp mind and are extremely intelligent. Thanks for the kind words that you don't think I'm stagnating, but I'm considering the possibility that you have said something to me whether you realize it or not, perhaps (sub-consciously) picking up on something and pointing me in a good direction without even realizing it. So, whether it turns out to be true or not, I'm going to meditate on this introspectively and explore the possibilities. Perhaps it is even so that you may have been given a word of knowledge about me by the Lord. Who knows? I do know one thing, we have to be honest withourselves if we want to grow...and I do.

Would that half the people on this forum had your thinking process, Claudya. :wink

 

[Angel]

Edward Manuel
How do you go about praying for healing?

 

[Angel]

I don't know why Manuel showed up I just wrote your first name?

 

[Chopper]

That makes pretty good sense Brother...except for one thing.

Me. I know God is heavily into the miracles. I know that God is visiting people, translating people, healing all sorts of people and even raising the dead in this day and age. Perhaps more miracles going on now than was in biblical days (overall).

I talk about these things freely on this forum and I know that many if not most people do not agree with me. That's neither here nor there though, the point is, that I do not need a breakthrough into believing in miracles (I think). So (at least in my case), I think we're talking about a different kind of breakthrough.

What do you think Brother? Do you think I need a breakthrough of sorts? You hear me talk on here (well, read, lol) soo...I'm having a hard time grasping what I may need a personal breakthough into. I do want my back healed, and I know that He can do it, and even would, if only...

drawing a blank here.(it's probably something stupidly easy that my feeble little flesh mind isn't getting)

OK, I've got you now loud and clear. I might ramble here a little so forgive me. Something I read in my ESV when I first got it was Hebrews 11:1. The KJV says "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen". I always had trouble claiming that verse. Then the ASV says, "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen". Those two words assurance and conviction made all the difference for me. I can relate to them. Especially conviction. It now seems so solid! I am convicted that Jesus healed me.

Now the next requirement that most people forget to do because it's so simple. Stop praying to be healed, you are convicted that Jesus heard you the first time. Now start thanking Him for the healing every day, I said, every day!! Eventually you will realize you are healed. A breakthrough is when we remember afresh what we are convicted of. when we realize that it's not complicated. We have to revert back to a child, and trust like a child. Jesus will give a child what that child asks Him without fail. A CHILD LIKE TRUST IS A BREAKTHROUGH!

Trust is a big, big thing with God. Someone said, I think it was Bob Benson, Trust is the greatest thing you can give to God, it is so precious to Him, His Son died for it. That is when we stop praying for the same healing, praise God for the healing every day, and simply trust Him that it is finished!

Right off the top of my head, this might help. If the Holy Spirit gives me further information, I'll pass it on to you.

 

[Edward]

I think we must have a new member by that name and the computer finished his name while you weren't looking, so he got tagged instead of me, lol.
Nothing special, give thanks and pray and ask for the healing...

Oh, I didn't click post reply to this! I have things going on and walked away. I have a new internet connection being installed today and other stuff going on...Anyway, Angel asked the right question, and you my Brother, are exactly correct. That pinged of truth throughout as I read it.

I know this too! or should at least. Yes, this helped a lot Brother, but by all means...if the Holy Spirit gives you more...bring it on!

Bless you both!

 

[Angel]

Thank you Chopper!

 

[Chopper]

You're both welcome. I find this whole subject of faith so very interesting. At first, I wanted to study everything I could get my hands on. I purchased many books on healing by famous faith healers. probably a half dozen. I tried to copy their methods to no avail. I have been frustrated over the years, and even thought that Jesus was not healing in these days. Then, I realized that it was Jesus Who was doing the healing, not my method!!!! So I asked myself, what's the answer? I believe the Holy Spirit revealed "children". Jesus said, let the children come to me, and He blessed them. He didn't bless the grown ups, He blessed the children.

We often refer to the "faith of a child", folks, that's what we need! Jesus will answer that prayer. A few months back, a surgeon indicated that I might have colon cancer. I simply went to Jesus and asked Him to heal my colon so I could continue to be His bond servant. In childlike faith, I believed He would. About three months after that, one morning, I bled. I believed that Satan was trying to shake my faith in Jesus so I rebuked that thinking. About a week after that, my PC physician called and told me if I didn't get help, it would be fatal. Once again Satan tried to get at my faith, I rebuked that incident and now all is well. No bleeding, no symptoms, Praise Jesus and child like faith.

It really is simple. Remember KISS? Keep It Simple Stupid. That is the way to release all that Jesus has promised in His Word. After all, I'm nothing but a dumb sheep, a dirt bag, (made from dirt). Why would I possibly think that I could do anything to bring healing. That is Jesus' department, my only job is to ask and then receive! God bless you as a child.

 

[Edward]

Jesus and not your method eh? That's exactly right brother and too often is forgotten and pride steppeth into people and they naturally feel good about themselves for 'being able to heal people'. Look at my power! I hear ya' There's none other than our Lord doing all of this. We are indeed as little children and this in itself is hard for some people to accept because they are so smart and proud of it.

We need the faith of a child. Yes we do and this is a great illustration of how our mindset should be. Children do not understand it, they just trust. We do not need to be able to understand God and His methods to be able to trust Him. Trust (faith) is a choice. Somebody wants to borrow 50 dollars from you. You've never loaned them money before and do not have anything upon which to have confidence in them with because you've never loaned them money before. What to do? He is a nice fellow, and needs it very much. You want to help, but don't really know if he will come through like he says he will to pay you back on Friday. You have to make a choice. It'll probably be ok. You choose to have faith in the man, and go ahead and loan him the money.

He leaves with the money. You feel pretty good about it. Your mutual friend has spoken well of the man also which helps. Later in the afternoon, the mutual friends buddy comes over in the afternoon and begins talking the money borrower down. He wont pay you back, pack blah blah blah. Uh-oh, did you make the wrong decision to have faith in the man? Make you worried, shake your faith. He says you should chase the guy down and demand your money back NOW!

Does this mans words really have a bearing upon the truth of the matter concerning if the man will pay you back as he said? No. But you could accept the mans words and take them to heart, and choose to throw away the faith in the man that you have chosen to have in him in the first place. Or not! Shake that doubt off and continue having faith. The man trying to shake your faith has no power unless you give it to him. Deception. Same thing with the Lord and healing.

Rebuke that thinking like you say, and shake it off. Next thing you know, boom, you're healed. (Praise the Lord Brother!)
Most of the time the Lord will make me wait until the last second before he helps me. He wants to see me hold my faith until the end, then He's not late, comes through for me. This is what we have to do.

Dirt bag...I like that! Shake it off, keep that faith, and thank Him for the healing even before it is received like you say. Yes.

Here's a link to Brother Mikes Church that he attends. The Pastor, Brother Keith Moore, is a wonderful teacher. His series about healing is very very much worth watching. Each episode is an hour to two hours long and absolutely replete with back up scriptures. The entire series is about 20 hours or more, and all on healing. I watched the whole thing over time and, wow. What a great series on healing it is. I've watched the whole thing a few times now and this will put your heart in the right place about healing. Have pen and paper handy for notes and scriptures.

http://www.moorelife.org/listseries.php?xml=rss/GodsWillToHeal.xml

Praise the Lord today! What a wonderful day...

 

[Chopper]

Jesus and not your method eh? That's exactly right brother and too often is forgotten and pride steppeth into people and they naturally feel good about themselves for 'being able to heal people'. Look at my power! I hear ya' There's none other than our Lord doing all of this. We are indeed as little children and this in itself is hard for some people to accept because they are so smart and proud of it.

We need the faith of a child. Yes we do and this is a great illustration of how our mindset should be. Children do not understand it, they just trust. We do not need to be able to understand God and His methods to be able to trust Him. Trust (faith) is a choice. Somebody wants to borrow 50 dollars from you. You've never loaned them money before and do not have anything upon which to have confidence in them with because you've never loaned them money before. What to do? He is a nice fellow, and needs it very much. You want to help, but don't really know if he will come through like he says he will to pay you back on Friday. You have to make a choice. It'll probably be ok. You choose to have faith in the man, and go ahead and loan him the money.

He leaves with the money. You feel pretty good about it. Your mutual friend has spoken well of the man also which helps. Later in the afternoon, the mutual friends buddy comes over in the afternoon and begins talking the money borrower down. He wont pay you back, pack blah blah blah. Uh-oh, did you make the wrong decision to have faith in the man? Make you worried, shake your faith. He says you should chase the guy down and demand your money back NOW!

Does this mans words really have a bearing upon the truth of the matter concerning if the man will pay you back as he said? No. But you could accept the mans words and take them to heart, and choose to throw away the faith in the man that you have chosen to have in him in the first place. Or not! Shake that doubt off and continue having faith. The man trying to shake your faith has no power unless you give it to him. Deception. Same thing with the Lord and healing.

Rebuke that thinking like you say, and shake it off. Next thing you know, boom, you're healed. (Praise the Lord Brother!)
Most of the time the Lord will make me wait until the last second before he helps me. He wants to see me hold my faith until the end, then He's not late, comes through for me. This is what we have to do.

Dirt bag...I like that! Shake it off, keep that faith, and thank Him for the healing even before it is received like you say. Yes.

Here's a link to Brother Mikes Church that he attends. The Pastor, Brother Keith Moore, is a wonderful teacher. His series about healing is very very much worth watching. Each episode is an hour to two hours long and absolutely replete with back up scriptures. The entire series is about 20 hours or more, and all on healing. I watched the whole thing over time and, wow. What a great series on healing it is. I've watched the whole thing a few times now and this will put your heart in the right place about healing. Have pen and paper handy for notes and scriptures.

http://www.moorelife.org/listseries.php?xml=rss/GodsWillToHeal.xml

Praise the Lord today! What a wonderful day...

Amen my good friend Edward, You have your breakthrough! It's as if the Holy Spirit was so excited to impart this information to you this morning. I had trouble keeping up with His words lol. I'll bet my old fingers haven't moved that fast for years. Oh my, I just love the Holy Spirit so much. I do worship the Holy Spirit because Jesus sent Him to me, to not only instruct me but to impart wisdom and knowledge to those in need. Every morning I ask Jesus to fill me with His Spirit and He never disappoints this child.

 

[Edward]

Amen indeed Brother. This is good stuff. Our God is an awesome God