One Spirit, One Lord, One Baptism. FOR BY ONE SPIRIT WE ARE ALL BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY, AND HAVE ALL BEEN MADE TO DRINK INTO ONE SPIRIT.

[gordon777]

The forum has three confused topics constantly running. They are:



1. What is the baptism that saves us?

2. Who Jesus Christ is ?

3. Drinking the cup of the Lord ?



What they are unaware of, is that they are one topic, and it is one denial everybody has taken part in, because there is ONE BODY, ( people who debate are not possible to be of the same body)

There is one Spirit, which we are all to drink into.

There is one Lord( His name became one in the earth( Jesus Christ)

There i one baptism ( He it is Anointed of God,that baptizes with the Holy Ghost)




Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.





Apostle Paul made it plain, how Christ sent him not to baptize, but to preach the gospel.

As the preaching of the cross is foolishness to them that perish, but to us who are saved, it is the power of God. ( not in baptizing but in the preaching of the cross.)

Because it is written, the wisdom of the wise is destroyed, so where is the disputer of this world, when their wisdom is made foolish ?

We preach Christ crucified, a stumblingblock and foolishness to those who do not believe, but to them which are called, ( to hear the preaching of the cross and not men's wisdom and disputing) Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.






1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.






This is that preaching of the cross.

The woman of Samaria asked Jesus where He has that living water from ?

She made clear that this is claiming to be better than Jacobs well.

Jesus answered how, with that water, men thirst again, and who drinks the water that Jesus shall give, shall never thirst, as the water that Jesus will give shall be in us a well of water springing up into everlasting life.





John 4:11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.





Jesus then discusses likewise with the Jews.

The Jews answered as the woman in Samaria, how God had given them bread from heaven to eat.

Jesus answers how truly, Moses did not give them that bread from heaven, but His Father gives the true bead from heaven.


Jesus came down from heaven and is the bread of God, giving life unto the world.


Jesus confirmed as told to the woman in Samaria, who comes to Jesus shall never hunger, and he that believes on Jesus shall never thirst.







John 6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.





Jesus is that bread of life.

The Hebrews did eat manna in the wilderness and were dead.

But this bread comes down from heaven, that a man may eat, and not die.

Jesus is the living bread ( as the water He gives is living water) which came down from heaven, if any man eats of that bread he shall live for ever, and the bread He gives is His flesh, given for the life of the world ( the drink He gives is from His pierced belly, water and blood)








John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
48 I am that bread of life.
49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.






Except we eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blood, we have no life in us.

To eat His flesh and to drink His blood, is to have eternal life. He that eats His flesh and drinks His blood, dwells in Him, and He in us.

The living father sent the Son, the Son lives by the Father, so he that eats the Son, lives by Him.

Not as the Hebrews ate manna and are dead, but to eat of the bread that came down from heaven and we shall live for ever.







John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.






Jesus stood and cried in the last day, that great day of the feast, that if any man was thirsty, to come to Jesus, and drink.


Jesus told them, if they believed on Him, as scripture had testified, out of His belly shall flow rivers of living water.

This is the Holy Ghost, the Spirit to be given when Jesus was glorified ( entered into His glory. Isaiah 11:10. Luke 24;26. Hebrews 4:1-3.) and the rest we enter into through belief, and not falling after the example of unbelief as Israel.






John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

[gordon777]

They came to Jesus when He was dead already.

A soldier pierced His side, and there came out blood and water. That record they bare record, a true record, the truth so we might believe.

Before this, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.

As the scripture had testified, it came to pass in that day, that the light was not clear nor dark, not day nor night, but it came to pass that at evening time it shall be light. ( because it was the hour of darkness when the prince of darkness came to set against the Lord and against His anointed, with all the people and the rulers of the world. Psalm 2:2. Acts 4:26.)


In that day ( when light overcame the darkness) living waters went out from Jerusalem, in the time of summer and winter. ( the Sun/Son, overcame the winter and love which had waxed cold)

Then the Lord was King over the whole earth ( King of kings and Lord of lords) and His name ONE ( One Jesus Christ.) Jesus Christ is the ONLY TO HAVE IMMORTALITY. And there is one Lord. ( Jesus Christ.)

And the Lamb which is in the middle of the throne of the Lord, feeds us ( His flesh) and leads us away unto living fountains of waters( His water and blood) and He ( God) wipes away all tears from our eyes ( for the Lords sorrowful of heart, who waited for Him.)








Luke 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Mark 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.


John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.



Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

1 Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Revelation 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.






Jesus confirmed we shall drink of His cup and be baptized with the same baptism He was baptized with.

Jesus confirmed this, by taking bread and blessing the bread, and by taking the cup, and giving thanks, showing they are His body and blood of the new testament, for them to eat and drink, as these are shed for the remission of sins, and Jesus drank it new with them in the Fathers Kingdom, ( the Spirit given when Jesus was glorified)








Matthew 20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.


Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.



Mark 10:39 And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:

Mark 14:22 And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.
23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.






Jesus we saw, had testified to the woman of Samaria, then to the Jews, of Him being the bread and Him being the drink.

Apostle Paul further explains from the Lord, how all Hebrews were baptized unto Moses, and all ate the same spiritual meat, and did all drink the same spiritual drink, they all drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.

Apostle Paul in this same chapter 1 Corinthians 10, reveals how the cup of blessing ( Jesus blessed the bread and gave thanks for the cup) is the communion of the blood of Christ. The communion of the body of Christ.

The church then was one bread, one body, as all are partakers of that one bread ( the communion of the body of Christ.)

Israel was partakers after the flesh, eating the sacrifices and partakers of the alter.

But the Gentiles ( heathen) sacrificed to devils, and not to God, and we cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils, we cannot be partaker of the Lords table, and the table of devils. ( their cup offered to devils, without faith in the Lord.)






1 Corinthians 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

1 Corinthians 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
18 Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.






Apostle Paul in the next chapter, 1 Corinthians 11, rehearses how the Lord took bread, gave thanks and broke it, showing this was His body broken for you ( broken for all)

After that same manner, Jesus took the cup, and He supped, the cup, saying, this cup is the new testament in His blood, to do this as often as they drink it, in remembrance of Him( this is how we are able to drink the cup that He drank of( we see He drank of that cup first) and then the disciples also drank, and it is the cup that Jesus had to drink to complete His blood being shed for many, as Matthew 26 reveals it is the same cup of blood of the new testament, shed for many for the remission of sins.)






Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Matthew 26:42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

1 Corinthians 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.






Are we able to be baptized with the same baptism ( of the Holy Ghost given after Jesus was glorified.) and drink of the cup the Lord drank from( for the remission of our sins ?)

Yes but we have to eat and drink worthily, discerning the Lords body.


We are one body, and Christ is in those many members to make them one body. ( His blood shed for many for the remission of sins which we drink of the same cup and be baptized with the same baptism the Lord drank from and was baptized with.)



FOR BY ONE SPIRIT WE ARE ALL BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY, AND HAVE ALL BEEN MADE TO DRINK INTO ONE SPIRIT.




1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.


1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

 

[gordon777]

Is it not clear, all on the forums take part in disputes, and not edifying ?

That is not allowed by God, it encourages evil strife, why wont anyone acknowledge that evil is encouraged on forums by all disputes and they are to be withdrawn from ?


This place of envy and strife,, it is also where confusion is, and every evil work, why are rules not ever given regarding not encouraging that evil, by no more foolish and unlearned questions being permitted, KNOWING THEY DO GENDER STRIFE=CREATE EVIL.




Philippians 2:14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

1 Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.


2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

James 3:16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

 

[for_his_glory]

Is it not clear, all on the forums take part in disputes, and not edifying ?

I guess all would also include you. Just remember when you point a finger at someone three of those fingers point back to yourself as none of us have full knowledge in everything of the word of God, but need to be seeking truth only given by the Holy Spirit. This is why forums need to be a safe place to discuss that which we might not agree with as there is no room for arguing or heavy debating, but edifying and lifting up each other in the faith of Christ Jesus that is our foremost common ground as we are to love others like Christ loves us.

It's only those who come in with an agenda of being puffed up deeming they are right and the rest are wrong telling them they are ignorant and know nothing as this is very disrespectful. When the staff sees these disputes and those not edifying one another then actions are taken against them as you yourself has seen by some of your replies being deleted in violation of the ToS.

Confusion comes by those who have no Spiritual knowledge as they let man teach them instead of searching the full context of scripture and only use random scriptures that at times has nothing to do with the topic. If we all would allow ourselves to hear what the Holy Spirit is trying to teach us instead of thinking that is what we heard then we would all be in unison of truth.

I'm not disputing what you have written and I have read through all of this, but It's people like you and many others that make very long posts that hardly anyone will read through and very hard to reply to as you/they would rather be part of the problem instead of being a part of the solution in helping others to learn.

We are a diverse group of people from all over the world that brings their thoughts, views and understanding of scripture and each needs to be respected and treated with love even if we do not agree with everyone. This is why new members are to acknowledge they read the Terms of Service, Community Message and the Statement of faith and agree with them. Unfortunately not everyone reads them. We all who say we are Christian are of one Lord, one faith, but it is the baptism that is in question by many as they do not understand nor have been taught there are two different baptisms which I have already explained and no reason to explain in here.

It's not an easy job to be a Moderator or an Administrator as we do not always see everything that goes on in every topic or forum. It helps when members make a report on someone who is causing problems so we can take care of the issue. We ask that when anyone who makes a report to give the forum, topic title and post # so we can discuss with them in privacy.

If your agenda was to come to this forum thinking only you hold all truths and expect others to believe everything you say then sir you are in the wrong forum.

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

 

[gordon777]

Thanks, I made a new thread just now, I hope you might have time to read it.

 

[Mungo]

I guess all would also include you. Just remember when you point a finger at someone three of those fingers point back to yourself as none of us have full knowledge in everything of the word of God, but need to be seeking truth only given by the Holy Spirit. This is why forums need to be a safe place to discuss that which we might not agree with as there is no room for arguing or heavy debating, but edifying and lifting up each other in the faith of Christ Jesus that is our foremost common ground as we are to love others like Christ loves us.

It's only those who come in with an agenda of being puffed up deeming they are right and the rest are wrong telling them they are ignorant and know nothing as this is very disrespectful. When the staff sees these disputes and those not edifying one another then actions are taken against them as you yourself has seen by some of your replies being deleted in violation of the ToS.

Confusion comes by those who have no Spiritual knowledge as they let man teach them instead of searching the full context of scripture and only use random scriptures that at times has nothing to do with the topic. If we all would allow ourselves to hear what the Holy Spirit is trying to teach us instead of thinking that is what we heard then we would all be in unison of truth.

I'm not disputing what you have written and I have read through all of this, but It's people like you and many others that make very long posts that hardly anyone will read through and very hard to reply to as you/they would rather be part of the problem instead of being a part of the solution in helping others to learn.

We are a diverse group of people from all over the world that brings their thoughts, views and understanding of scripture and each needs to be respected and treated with love even if we do not agree with everyone. This is why new members are to acknowledge they read the Terms of Service, Community Message and the Statement of faith and agree with them. Unfortunately not everyone reads them. We all who say we are Christian are of one Lord, one faith, but it is the baptism that is in question by many as they do not understand nor have been taught there are two different baptisms which I have already explained and no reason to explain in here.

It's not an easy job to be a Moderator or an Administrator as we do not always see everything that goes on in every topic or forum. It helps when members make a report on someone who is causing problems so we can take care of the issue. We ask that when anyone who makes a report to give the forum, topic title and post # so we can discuss with them in privacy.

If your agenda was to come to this forum thinking only you hold all truths and expect others to believe everything you say then sir you are in the wrong forum.

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

I agree. I can see much wrong with the basic premises but it's far too long to spend time dissecting it.

 

[Terraphim]

Jud_1:3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.

Pro 27:17 As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend.