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Anna1334
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This preacher believes she is, with five million people and Obama she calls the one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7vh5LJjJhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7vh5LJjJhc
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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join For His Glory for a discussion on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
https://christianforums.net/threads/psalm-70-1-save-me-o-god-lord-help-me-now.108509/
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duval said:
Hi Duval,
This is an interesting concept, not sure if it's true, however 1 Jn, does discuss the spirit of the anti-Christ, but then there are many references to exactly what this 1 person will do. Can you offer other evidence the anti-Christ is a spirit, attitude, versus a real live being? Thanks.
duval said:
I John 2:18-19 "Dear Children, this is the last hour, and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us."
1 John 4:3 "..but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
There's more but am getting tired of typing ;)
So the antichrist is the apostasy of individuals, institutions and ideaologies. I got it! This is awesome! Thanks.
duval, I disagree.
The Antichrist will be a man, not a system, this is clear by the scriptural evidence I have posted. I used Revelation 20:10 first because it to me is the strongest evidence of the Antichrist being a man.
(Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.)
If the Antichrist is a system how can a system be thrown into the lake of fire and be tortured for all of eternity. By this scripture we can clearly see that He is a man.
(Revelation 13:14
He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.) How can a system be wounded by a sword, it can not, only a man can be wounded and come back from His deadly wound, and because of this all the Whole world followed the Beast, the Antichrist, The man of sin.
(2Th 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the (MAN) of lawlessness is revealed, the (MAN)doomed to destruction.) This verse clearly depicts the Antichrist as a man, not a system.
Revelation 14:11
There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. Is the image of the beast not a man??
Rev 16:13 Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs,
Who are these there individuals, the dragon is the devil, and the beast of course is the man the Antichrist, and the man the false prophet. The only one here that is not human is the dragon, the devil himself.
Rev 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. How can one capture a system, the man, the Antichrist is captured in Revelation 19:20 and is thrown into the lake of fire. I know that the temple was destroyed when Rome captured Jerusalem. But the third temple that is about to be built will also be destroyed by Christ himself when he comes back and sets his foot on the mount of olives and causes the greatest earth quake to happen that has ever occurred since man has been on the earth, found in Revelation 16:18. it is a way of history repeating it’s self. Blessings to all, Lee.
The Antichrist will be a man, not a system, this is clear by the scriptural evidence I have posted. I used Revelation 20:10 first because it to me is the strongest evidence of the Antichrist being a man.
(Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.)
If the Antichrist is a system how can a system be thrown into the lake of fire and be tortured for all of eternity. By this scripture we can clearly see that He is a man.
(Revelation 13:14
He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.) How can a system be wounded by a sword, it can not, only a man can be wounded and come back from His deadly wound, and because of this all the Whole world followed the Beast, the Antichrist, The man of sin.
(2Th 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the (MAN) of lawlessness is revealed, the (MAN)doomed to destruction.) This verse clearly depicts the Antichrist as a man, not a system.
Revelation 14:11
There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. Is the image of the beast not a man??
Rev 16:13 Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs,
Who are these there individuals, the dragon is the devil, and the beast of course is the man the Antichrist, and the man the false prophet. The only one here that is not human is the dragon, the devil himself.
Rev 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. How can one capture a system, the man, the Antichrist is captured in Revelation 19:20 and is thrown into the lake of fire. I know that the temple was destroyed when Rome captured Jerusalem. But the third temple that is about to be built will also be destroyed by Christ himself when he comes back and sets his foot on the mount of olives and causes the greatest earth quake to happen that has ever occurred since man has been on the earth, found in Revelation 16:18. it is a way of history repeating it’s self. Blessings to all, Lee.
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Oprah Winfrey was raised in a Christian household with Christian values; however, it is quite a shame and dismay that with all her power, wealth, and INFLUENCE, she denies the very foundation that helped make her who she is today.
She's most definately not the anti-christ, but it's definately to the detriment of our society that she has turned from Christianity to this sort of New Age gospel thing that she's promoting today.
Oprah Winfrey is a "good" person -- she does a lot of good works and isn't a selfish wealthy person. I don't believe she's trying to "buy her way into heaven" or anything like that, and I don't believe she's evil. She's just one of God's sheep that has been seriously led astray, and a very important sheep at that. We seriously need her to come back to the fold. :help Christians should be praying for her.
She's most definately not the anti-christ, but it's definately to the detriment of our society that she has turned from Christianity to this sort of New Age gospel thing that she's promoting today.
Oprah Winfrey is a "good" person -- she does a lot of good works and isn't a selfish wealthy person. I don't believe she's trying to "buy her way into heaven" or anything like that, and I don't believe she's evil. She's just one of God's sheep that has been seriously led astray, and a very important sheep at that. We seriously need her to come back to the fold. :help Christians should be praying for her.
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Anna1334
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Entropic_Prodigy, thanks for your inspire words, but this woman has done a lot of damage with her fame. Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
I am going to be bold here, i am not one who tolerates Oprah, yes we can pray for her but she already has poising the minds of millions so i do not want to waste my time to pray for somebody who has destroy and poison the minds of innocent people who never knew Yeshua,by saying that Yeshua is not the only way; that there are many ways to God. If she never knew Yeshua's salvation i would pray for her but she did. 2Peter 2: 20-21 For if, after they have escaped the defilement's of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.
It has happened to them according to the true proverb, "A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT," and, "A sow, after washing, {returns} to wallowing in the mire." What I am saying here is-- she has turn perhaps millions from ever knowing Yeshua's way of salvation. so
on her.
They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
I am going to be bold here, i am not one who tolerates Oprah, yes we can pray for her but she already has poising the minds of millions so i do not want to waste my time to pray for somebody who has destroy and poison the minds of innocent people who never knew Yeshua,by saying that Yeshua is not the only way; that there are many ways to God. If she never knew Yeshua's salvation i would pray for her but she did. 2Peter 2: 20-21 For if, after they have escaped the defilement's of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.
It has happened to them according to the true proverb, "A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT," and, "A sow, after washing, {returns} to wallowing in the mire." What I am saying here is-- she has turn perhaps millions from ever knowing Yeshua's way of salvation. so
on her.
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The Anti-Christ is right under our noses but out of fear nobody is
willing to admit it. The day will come when you'll be faced with a
choice, this choice..
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/martyrs/index.htm
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Anna1334 said:
True, true. Excellent point, Anna1334.
I still think that we should pray for her, and although she has used her power to influence those millions away from Jesus, she herself has been led astray by others who have had influence over her...(Eric Butterworth) Satan turned her away from God, and from what I've seen it's been insidious and not by any means overnight.
Thou shalt not see thy brother's ox or his sheep go astray, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt in any case bring them again unto thy brother. Deuteronomy 22:1
I hope she returns to wallowing in the mire quickly, so she can see The Way again.
Hi lee100:
Thank you for clearifing that we are not talking about systems etc. but people as anti-Christ. If you have a passage which states the anti-Christ is ONE ( 1 ) person please share it. I know of none.
I am not in a position at present to be often on the forum, but will study it with you as I have opportunity.
Thank you for clearifing that we are not talking about systems etc. but people as anti-Christ. If you have a passage which states the anti-Christ is ONE ( 1 ) person please share it. I know of none.
I am not in a position at present to be often on the forum, but will study it with you as I have opportunity.
Sorry, I was under the idea that you thought the Antichrist was a system. As long as you know that the final Antichrist is a man and not a system, then we are on the same page. The only place in the Bible that says the word Antichrist is 1 John 2:18-2:22-4:3 and 2 John 1:7 All of these says that the Antichrist will be a spirit that will possess several different men. But the last and final Antichrist will be a man and not a system. Lee :yes
The Antichrist will be a man, not a system, this is clear by the scriptural evidence I have posted. I used Revelation 20:10 first because it to me is the strongest evidence of the Antichrist being a man.
(Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.)
If the Antichrist is a system how can a system be thrown into the lake of fire and be tortured for all of eternity. By this scripture we can clearly see that He is a man.
(Revelation 13:14
He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.) How can a system be wounded by a sword, it can not, only a man can be wounded and come back from His deadly wound, and because of this all the Whole world followed the Beast, the Antichrist, The man of sin.
(2Th 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the (MAN) of lawlessness is revealed, the (MAN)doomed to destruction.) This verse clearly depicts the Antichrist as a man, not a system.
Revelation 14:11
There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. Is the image of the beast not a man??
If you have any doubts, please read my previous post again.
Rev 16:13 Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs,
Who are these there individuals, the dragon is the devil, and the beast of course is the man the Antichrist, and the man the false prophet. The only one here that is not human is the dragon, the devil himself.
Rev 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. How can one capture a system, the man, the Antichrist is captured in Revelation 19:20 and is thrown into the lake of fire. I know that the temple was destroyed when Rome captured Jerusalem. But the third temple that is about to be built will also be destroyed by Christ himself when he comes back and sets his foot on the mount of olives and causes the greatest earth quake to happen that has ever occurred since man has been on the earth, found in Revelation 16:18. it is a way of history repeating it’s self. Blessings to all, Lee.
(Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.)
If the Antichrist is a system how can a system be thrown into the lake of fire and be tortured for all of eternity. By this scripture we can clearly see that He is a man.
(Revelation 13:14
He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.) How can a system be wounded by a sword, it can not, only a man can be wounded and come back from His deadly wound, and because of this all the Whole world followed the Beast, the Antichrist, The man of sin.
(2Th 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the (MAN) of lawlessness is revealed, the (MAN)doomed to destruction.) This verse clearly depicts the Antichrist as a man, not a system.
Revelation 14:11
There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. Is the image of the beast not a man??
If you have any doubts, please read my previous post again.
Rev 16:13 Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs,
Who are these there individuals, the dragon is the devil, and the beast of course is the man the Antichrist, and the man the false prophet. The only one here that is not human is the dragon, the devil himself.
Rev 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. How can one capture a system, the man, the Antichrist is captured in Revelation 19:20 and is thrown into the lake of fire. I know that the temple was destroyed when Rome captured Jerusalem. But the third temple that is about to be built will also be destroyed by Christ himself when he comes back and sets his foot on the mount of olives and causes the greatest earth quake to happen that has ever occurred since man has been on the earth, found in Revelation 16:18. it is a way of history repeating it’s self. Blessings to all, Lee.