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origins of the pagan new year day

his name and his nature are in both, they have the exact same essence.

that doesnt mean they are the same. it doesnt make sense at all but that is what is stated. i wish i could articulate easily but one will loose your mind in trying to understand the trinity but not ones soul.


what just described is called modalism. its not what the bible supports

jesus prayed to the father(YHWH) IN HEAVEN And he responded. why would Jesus pray to himself?
 
jasoncran said:
his name and his nature are in both, they have the exact same essence.

that doesnt mean they are the same. it doesnt make sense at all but that is what is stated. i wish i could articulate easily but one will loose your mind in trying to understand the trinity but not ones soul.


what just described is called modalism. its not what the bible supports

jesus prayed to the father(YHWH) IN HEAVEN And he responded. why would Jesus pray to himself?
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Would it be correct to say that YHWH created Lesser YHWH? I am not interested in hijacking this conversation. Let me know if you believe I am and I will repost elsewhere.
 
Fedusenko said:
Would it be correct to say that YHWH created Lesser YHWH? I am not interested in hijacking this conversation. Let me know if you believe I am and I will repost elsewhere.
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no, jesus cant be created being in that he claimed the same nature as christ

the alpha and the omega
the beggining and the end

thing that the yhwh said himself, he also said beside me theres none other.jesus was worshipped, a lesser being cant be worshipped.

this is why jesus as the archange fails as any angel in a vision or in a visitation refused worship.

jesus didnt he instead recieve in revalation and didnt raise john up from the ground immediately
 
Then is must be that your phrasing "same in nature" is throwing me off. Can you say it in different words?
 
Fedusenko said:
Then is must be that your phrasing "same in nature" is throwing me off. Can you say it in different words?
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equal.

meaning that he has the same atributes
jesus:

is eternal
creator of life
he is able to be worshipped
he is the redeemer of isreal(i come for the lost house of isreal)

the YHWH
creator of life
redeemer of isreal(ps 107)
is worshipped
 
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