Our salvation is in Mary

[Dyonisius the Areopagite]

Who was Jesus praying to.
Matt 26: And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Strangely he is praying to his Father.

Concerning this, Jesus Himself stated that "whatever you ask in My Name, will be granted". Are you going to argue with Jesus about people praying to Him and asking something in His Name?

 

[Dyonisius the Areopagite]

Where does it say that salvation is found in Mary.
Acts 4:
11 Jesus is

“‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’[a]

12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.'

We are saved Only through Jesus.

Salvation is not "found" in Mary. However, Mary DID bring salvation into the world by being the God-Bearer.

 

[donadams]

Where does it say that salvation is found in Mary.
Acts 4:
11 Jesus is

“‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’[a]

12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.'

We are saved Only through Jesus.

Jesus Christ “is” our salvation Lk 2:30 He was found in Her!
Mary found our salvation Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation Lk 1:38
Thks

 

[Who Me]

Dyonisius responds:
Certainly:
2 Maccabees 12: 43-46 contains prayers for the dead.
2 Maccabees 15: 12-16 contains prayers to the Saints

The apocrypha is not part of the protestants bible, so your quotes are not supporting your position.

 

[Who Me]

Jesus Christ “is” our salvation Lk 2:30 He was found in Her!
Mary found our salvation Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation Lk 1:38
Thks

Luke 2:30 is Simion praising God for Jesus. Th3 passage is:-
28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:

29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
you may now dismiss[d] your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31 which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and the glory of your people Israel.”

Luke 1:30 is the angel telling Mary what is going to happen. :-30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

Luke1:38 is Mary making a very reasonable protest and agreeing to serve God.:-38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

Nowhere in these passages does it say or implie that Mary is anything other than a servant doing what women do, give birth and raise their child.

 

[Who Me]

Salvation is not "found" in Mary. However, Mary DID bring salvation into the world by being the God-Bearer.

Correction. GOD, in the trinity has always existed. Mary gave birth to the incarnation of God the Son.
She gave birth to Jesus, not to the Almighty Creator God.

 

[Who Me]

It is Ecumenical Council which gave you the very Scriptures you reference.

The council's only confirmed what was already established by the churches.

 

[Who Me]

Concerning this, Jesus Himself stated that "whatever you ask in My Name, will be granted". Are you going to argue with Jesus about people praying to Him and asking something in His Name?

No I'm talking about not praying to icons, idols, statues, Saints etc etc.
We address God in our prayers not any of the above.

 

[Who Me]

We must never separate Jesus from Mary: we can go to Him only through her . . . Without Mary, we shall never find Jesus. Whoever would say "I have no need of Mary" would be guilty of blasphemy! Our eternal salvation is at stake, and we are bound to honor her as the Mother of God and our Mother.
(St. Peter Julian Eymard)

Yet Jesus said ' When you pray say " Our Father " that is our authority by whom and to who we are to pray.

 

[donadams]

Please state your biblical proof for this.
Jesus said when you pray say, " Our Father.' There is no mention of praying to Mary or to any one other than God.

Isa 16:5 And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.

Heb 14:6 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Lk 1:28 Hail, full of grace!

Thks

 

[donadams]

Who was Jesus praying to.
Matt 26: And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Strangely he is praying to his Father.

We all pray to the father, by the merits of Christ in the power of the Spirit by the intercession of Mary with the angels and saints! Amen!

 

[donadams]

We obey scripture not men.
Acts 4:But Peter and John replied, ‘Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20 As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.’

Where is the biblical authority to call Mary the titles you give her?

God establishes his kingdom by obedience to the fathers in hierarchical authority!

Matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19 Jn 20:21-23

 

[donadams]

The apocrypha is not part of the protestants bible, so your quotes are not supporting your position.

Who has authority to declare the canon of scripture?

 

[donadams]

Luke 2:30 is Simion praising God for Jesus. Th3 passage is:-
28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:

29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
you may now dismiss[d] your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31 which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and the glory of your people Israel.”

Luke 1:30 is the angel telling Mary what is going to happen. :-30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

Luke1:38 is Mary making a very reasonable protest and agreeing to serve God.:-38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

Nowhere in these passages does it say or implie that Mary is anything other than a servant doing what women do, give birth and raise their child.

Jesus is our salvation
Mary is his mother
She is the mother of our salvation

 

[Dyonisius the Areopagite]

The apocrypha is not part of the protestants bible,

So what?
And it is not "the apocrypha". It is "Holy Scripture".

so your quotes are not supporting your position.

Nonsense! You don't get to define Scripture.

 

[Dyonisius the Areopagite]

Correction. GOD, in the trinity has always existed. Mary gave birth to the incarnation of God the Son.
She gave birth to Jesus, not to the Almighty Creator God.

Um....Jesus DID Create the Cosmos and thus IS the "Almighty Creator".
Mary bore God in the Flesh. Period!

 

[Dyonisius the Areopagite]

The council's only confirmed what was already established by the churches.

Through the very Sacred Tradition YOU reject that was passed down by APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION.
The authority is in the Church, through the Holy Spirit.

 

[Dyonisius the Areopagite]

No I'm talking about not praying to icons, idols, statues, Saints etc etc.
We address God in our prayers not any of the above.

"We" pray to the Lord, and "we" also pray to the Saints in heaven.
I see nothing wrong with talking to the living. Why do you?

 

[martelo]

All we need is Jesus!

Is this absolute or and exaggerated
Act of faith?

All we need is Jesus therefore you reject all of the following:

The Eternal Father
The Holy Spirit
Gifts of the Spirit
Grace
Mercy
New covenant Church
Sacraments
Mary, & the communion of saints
Church Fathers, apostles, bishops to care for our souls
scripture
Mary to give birth to Jesus and accept him in her arms when He is taken down from the cross
Mary’s prayers, all graces thru Mary salvation
Suffering for His sake and our glorification

How many times does God offer His precious gifts and you say: “no thanks”!

All we need are s Jesus!

You cant have Jesus in a vacuum!

You can’t have Jesus without Mary!
Lk 1:28 (the Lord is with her)

You can’t have Jesus without the new covenant church! (Added to the church acts 2:47 church necessary for salvation 1 cor 12:13)

You can’t have Jesus without baptism! Gal 3:27 (sacraments)


Jesus Christ is our salvation! Lk 2:30

Found our salvation Lk 1:30
Consent to our salvation Lk 1:38
Conceived our salvation by the power of the Holy Spirit
Matt 1:18-20 Lk 1:35
Carried our salvation for nine Months and gave Birth to our salvation matt 1:21 Lk 2:16
Remaining a virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:20
Received our salvation in her arms after taken down from the cross

Mary also found our Salvation in the temple Lk 2:48

I misunderstood your post, until I read further down.

 

[onlysaved]

Those who Have the Holy Spirit can see things others miss. 1 Jn 2:20

Four Marian dogmas in Luke One!

Not explicitly, but the trinity, rapture, bible etc. are not in scripture explicitly either.

1) Mary, Mother of God:
2) Immaculate conception of Mary:
3) Perpetual virginity of Mary:
4) Mary assumed into heaven:

1) Mary, Mother of God:

Lk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

2) Immaculate conception of Mary:

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace;

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

Things plural:
The immaculate conception of Mary & the miraculous conception of Jesus.

3) Perpetual virginity of Mary:

Lk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? (No sex)

Lk 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
(Handmaid of the Lord, implies total consecration to God and His will including Her virginity, sacrificed herself to God with a vow of perpetual virginity)
(Anything consecrated to God and His service must be pure and only for His service) (the Old Testament verifies this)

4) Mary assumed into heaven:

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
(The Lord is glorified in heaven at the right hand of God, since the Lord is with Her, she is also glorified in heaven)
(Most blessed among all women would be glorified and crowned by God in heaven)
(Mary is queen, in the line of David the king, the mother of the king is queen, Mary crowned queen in heaven rev 12:1)

Jesus had brothers, also sons of Joseph and Mary. Joseph knew her and they had kids.