Papal Humility

[Heidi]

So why did the catholics specifically choose the word "Father" as a title? What is the point? They are no more my biological father than they are my heavenly Father.

And Paul never asked the Corinthians to call him "Father". Never. Freud is the father of psychology but we do not call him "Father Freud" because he is not our father. That is why Jesus said not to call anyone 'father'. Calling someone "Father" suggests a personal relationship between us and that person in a fatherly sense. And again, once we are norn of God's Spirit, God is our one Father. That's also why Jesus said in the same passage not to call anyone 'teacher' because we have one teacher and that is the Christ. Once we are born again of the Holy Spirit, we see the whole world through the mind of Christ. And only when you are born again do you understand what Jesus means.

Jesus also tells us this because the one who asks us to call him father is exalting himself as Jesus says in Matthew 12. There is nothing more arrogant than taking a title that Jesus says is reserved for God alone.

Yeah you are right. Paul never ASKED the Corinthians to call him father. He just TOLD them he was.


Obviously, you read the Bible selectively.

That's a pretty poor out. It's okay to call yourself father and tell people that you are their father? (according to the hyperliteral rendering of Matt 23:9) but then if they call you father back you slap them with a DON"T DO THAT YOU WICKED PEOPLE. Common! Silly. By the way I've never had a priest tell me to call him father. NEVER.

So you're disagreeing with Jesus agin. Apparently it is you who reads the bible selectively. I believe Jesus's words as I do all of his words and once again, you obviously don't.

 

[Heidi]

You also don't see why Jesus tells us not to call anyone on earth 'father' particularly our religious leaders because people then believe anything that person says which is why you don't disagree with one word the pope says but are very quick to disagree with the bible. So your defense of the pope over the bible very clearly shows Christ's meaning much better than words ever could. But those of us who have faith in the bible don't need to be led astray by people as you are. that's why Christ's elect cannot be deceived by the anti-Christ because we don't believe any man over jesus. But you do.

 

[Heidi]

And since you have never disagreed with anything the pope says, then it is clear that you see him as God. But yours and catholicxian's disagreement with Matthew 1:25 is about as desperate as Clinton's definition of the word "is" when he was caught in a lie. But that's what people do when they can't admit they're wrong. They make even more foolish arguments that end up humiliating them more than admitting they were wrong in the first place. So I'll leave you to try to figure out what the word "father" means since you obviously don't know. And if you don't know what simple words like father means, then you have no chance of understanding the rest of the bible either. Jesus couldn't be more clear.

 

[thessalonian]

Heidi,

There is very little substance and much nonsense in your posts. They are a waste of time.