Part 3 Conclusion of The Jewish Passover, the Last Supper, and the New Testament Sacrifice, How are they connected?

[zeland]

Part 3 and conclusion.

Most Protestants believe that Christ was only talking symbolically because that is what they have been told all their life, and they have accepted this error, with little biblical proof or investigation. The problem is that the Bible does not support this erroneous "symbolic" meaning. In fact, a serious study of scripture will show just the opposite to be the case.

If Christ says, “This is My Body”, shouldn’t we take the Lord at His word? All the early Church Fathers taught that the Eucharist is the Real Body and Blood of Christ. I will quote just two here.

St. Cyril of Jerusalem, who was Bishop of Jerusalem in the years 348-378 A.D.

“Therefore with fullest assurance let us partake as of the Body and Blood of Christ: for in the figure of Bread is given to thee His Body, and in the figure of Wine His Blood; that thou by partaking of the Body and Blood of Christ, might be made of the same body and the same blood with Him. For thus we come to bear Christ in us, because His Body and Blood are diffused through our members; thus it is that, according to the blessed Peter, (we become partaker of the divine nature.)” [2 Peter 1:4] – Catechetical Lectures [22 (Mystagogic 4), 3] (Also see John 6:56)

"Contemplate therefore the Bread and Wine not as bare elements, for they are, according to the Lord's declaration, the Body and Blood of Christ; for though sense suggests this to thee, let faith establish thee. Judge not the matter from taste, but from faith, be fully assured without misgiving, that thou hast been given the Body and Blood of Christ”. –”Catechetical Lectures [22 (Mystagogic 4), 6].

St Augustine - Bishop of Hippo from 396 to 430 AD.

"That bread which you see on the altar, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the body of Christ. That chalice, or rather, what is in that chalice, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the blood of Christ” (St. Augustine - Sermon 227).

Additional references.

Note, for the links below, after they open, click on BROWSE YOUTUBE to bypass the commercials.

For a more in-depth talk on the above topic, by Dr. Scott Hahn, see his presentation titled:
“The 4th Cup”. See:

Also see a later talk by Dr. Hahn on the same topic.

Part 1

Part 2

This next link is to an interview with Dr. David Anders. He was a Presbyterian historian who did his Ph.D. studies in Reformation History. See:

The Biblical Basis for the Catholic Faith – John Salza
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1592761461/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i5​

 

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Most Protestants believe that Christ was only talking symbolically because that is what they have been told all their life, and they have accepted this error, with little biblical proof or investigation. The problem is that the Bible does not support this erroneous "symbolic" meaning. In fact, a serious study of scripture will show just the opposite to be the case.

19 ¶ And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Luke 22:19-20

Those under the Roman principality, disregard the word "remembrance" in Luke 22:19-20, and disregard its context: a Passover seder, in which many other things were done in remembrance, and stated as such. "This is the bitterness of your times in the land of Egypt." "This is my body...".

And Christ the Lord has commanded us to call no one in this world "father". Therefore, any appeal to church "fathers", and the lineage of "apostolicity" which birthed one thousand years of death to unbelievers in the name of quasi-christian nationalism of this world, is to be disregarded.

 

[Oseas]

Luke 22:7-16: Wonderful, very wonderful event
7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.
8 And JESUS sent Peter and John, saying, Go and PREPARE us the PASSOVER, THAT WE MAY EAT.
9 And they said unto JESUS, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
10 And JESUS said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
13 And they went, and found as JESUS had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
14 And when the hour was come, JESUS sat down, and the twelve apostles with Him.
15 And JESUS said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
16 For I say unto you,I will not any more eat thereof, UNTIL IT BE FULFILLED IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD.->Matthew 25:6 combined with Revelation 11:15-18, take a look. Be prepared or else get ready.

May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen

Happy Easter for all my brothers in Christ

 

[donadams]

Part 3 and conclusion.

Most Protestants believe that Christ was only talking symbolically because that is what they have been told all their life, and they have accepted this error, with little biblical proof or investigation. The problem is that the Bible does not support this erroneous "symbolic" meaning. In fact, a serious study of scripture will show just the opposite to be the case.

If Christ says, “This is My Body”, shouldn’t we take the Lord at His word? All the early Church Fathers taught that the Eucharist is the Real Body and Blood of Christ. I will quote just two here.

St. Cyril of Jerusalem, who was Bishop of Jerusalem in the years 348-378 A.D.

“Therefore with fullest assurance let us partake as of the Body and Blood of Christ: for in the figure of Bread is given to thee His Body, and in the figure of Wine His Blood; that thou by partaking of the Body and Blood of Christ, might be made of the same body and the same blood with Him. For thus we come to bear Christ in us, because His Body and Blood are diffused through our members; thus it is that, according to the blessed Peter, (we become partaker of the divine nature.)” [2 Peter 1:4] – Catechetical Lectures [22 (Mystagogic 4), 3] (Also see John 6:56)

"Contemplate therefore the Bread and Wine not as bare elements, for they are, according to the Lord's declaration, the Body and Blood of Christ; for though sense suggests this to thee, let faith establish thee. Judge not the matter from taste, but from faith, be fully assured without misgiving, that thou hast been given the Body and Blood of Christ”. –”Catechetical Lectures [22 (Mystagogic 4), 6].

St Augustine - Bishop of Hippo from 396 to 430 AD.

"That bread which you see on the altar, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the body of Christ. That chalice, or rather, what is in that chalice, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the blood of Christ” (St. Augustine - Sermon 227).

Additional references.

Note, for the links below, after they open, click on BROWSE YOUTUBE to bypass the commercials.

For a more in-depth talk on the above topic, by Dr. Scott Hahn, see his presentation titled:
“The 4th Cup”. See:

Also see a later talk by Dr. Hahn on the same topic.

Part 1

Part 2

This next link is to an interview with Dr. David Anders. He was a Presbyterian historian who did his Ph.D. studies in Reformation History. See:

The Biblical Basis for the Catholic Faith – John Salza
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1592761461/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i5​

an excellent work you are to be congratulated!

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[donadams]

Those under the Roman principality, disregard the word "remembrance" in Luke 22:19-20, and disregard its context: a Passover seder, in which many other things were done in remembrance, and stated as such. "This is the bitterness of your times in the land of Egypt." "This is my body...".

And Christ the Lord has commanded us to call no one in this world "father". Therefore, any appeal to church "fathers", and the lineage of "apostolicity" which birthed one thousand years of death to unbelievers in the name of quasi-christian nationalism of this world, is to be disregarded.

care to explain Jn 4:20 what happened to call no man father?

apostolic succession is as biblical as the succession of Moses which in matt 23 Jesus commanded be obeyed!
acts 1:26 Mathias succession of the apostolic office of judas!
thks

 

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apostolic succession is as biblical as the succession of Moses which in matt 23 Jesus commanded be obeyed!

Where, exactly, did Jesus say anything in Matt. 23 that supports apostolic succession?

acts 1:26 Mathias succession of the apostolic office of judas!
thks

That is a huge problem for apostolic succession. That requires that there always be 12 apostles, and then we have Paul…

 

[donadams]

Where, exactly, did Jesus say anything in Matt. 23 that supports apostolic succession?


That is a huge problem for apostolic succession. That requires that there always be 12 apostles, and then we have Paul…

matt 23:1 the successors of Moses!

seat of moses! vs 2
seat or cathedral is the place of authority!

vs 3 Jesus commands obedience to this authority

vs 4 authority to bind and vs 13 authority to shut heaven

kingdom authority in succession

this authority is taken from them matt 21:43 and given to peter and the apostles matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 20:21-23 acts 1:1-8 eph 2:20

note: neither the successors of moses nor the apostles are personally impeccable!

thks

the law of moses had three parts

the moral law: eternal
matt 19:17
rim 13:9-10

the jurisdictional law: given to peter and the apostles and thier successors to govern the new covenant church kingdom till Christ returns
matt 16:18-19 & 18:18
heb 13:7-17

the ceremonial law: naied to the cross col 2:14

 

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matt 23:1 the successors of Moses!

seat of moses! vs 2
seat or cathedral is the place of authority!

vs 3 Jesus commands obedience to this authority

vs 4 authority to bind and vs 13 authority to shut heaven

This does not support apostolic succession.

kingdom authority in succession

this authority is taken from them matt 21:43 and given to peter and the apostles matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 20:21-23 acts 1:1-8 eph 2:20

note: neither the successors of moses nor the apostles are personally impeccable!

No, in Matt. 21:43, Jesus is likely speaking of Christians, Jews and Gentiles, or just Gentiles in general--the kingdom of God is being taken away from the Jewish nation because of the Jewish leaders' rejection of Jesus (vv. 33-40, 42) and being given to the Gentiles (vv. 41, 43).

I don't see how any of those passages support apostolic succession. Such an idea just isn't biblical. Again, if the CC wanted to argue for biblical apostolic succession, there would always have to be 12 (or 13) apostles.

the law of moses had three parts

the moral law: eternal
matt 19:17
rim 13:9-10

Agreed. Rim?

the jurisdictional law: given to peter and the apostles and thier successors to govern the new covenant church kingdom till Christ returns
matt 16:18-19 & 18:18
heb 13:7-17

No, the civil law was for the state of Israel only as a theocracy.

the ceremonial law: naied to the cross col 2:14

Agreed.