Paul and Soul / Body Dualism

[Drew]

To be absent from the body is to be present with the LORD.. right ?

Paul's statement that he would rather be "absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord" works perfectly with the position that the redeemed sleep until the future resurrection. From Paul's perspective as a subject of experience, he will indeed experience an instant transition from the body to the Lord's presence, even if he factually rests in the grave for several thousand years. I see no reason to discount this "phenomenological" reading.

 

[Eventide]

Paul's statement that he would rather be "absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord" works perfectly with the position that the redeemed sleep until the future resurrection. From Paul's perspective as a subject of experience, he will indeed experience an instant transition from the body to the Lord's presence, even if he factually rests in the grave for several thousand years. I see no reason to discount this "phenomenological" reading.

Good point and I can 'see' what you're saying here.. certainly a possibility.

 

[jasoncran]

no, there is a ressurection of the just and unjust that is clear, for the just the new age and new earth, the unjust hell. as per revalation 20.

and drew's position is what i hold anyway. we die we rest in christ and we seem him instantly but time has flown.