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People Say Their Got A Relationship With God Not Rules Of The Bible ???

It's like saying you got a relationship with your parents but you don't live with them to abide by any rules they want to enforce for your life.

If The Holy Spirit of God lives in us then his commandments or rules in the bible tells us how to conduct our life completely all the time----Acts 17:28 and Matthew 4:4.

Relationships sometimes comes with somebody to submit to like the government or your landlord and even the pastor of God for his people on earth---John 8:32.

To call God Lord is to call him your parent or Father to listen to and obey.
For a servant to call a master lord is to call them somebody to submit to.
Today that would be an employee calling their employer the boss to submit to.

Experiences only have nothing to do with a relationship with God for salvation or for a blessing at all.

The spiritual life in God is when your out to live out all the bible as a disciple in total submission to him----John 8:31 and Matthew 4:4.

This the relationship to make you a disciple in God not resting in grace alone to do everything for you as a Christian----Romans 6:1 and Romans 3:1-4.

Disciples may fail God all the time but perfection in him with the bible enough is not a option for success in God----John 5:39 and Romans 3:1-4.

Bible perfection in him is not a doctrine against grace---Revelation 12:9-10.

Rather grace is conditional in whether we have a bible perfection
life---Romans 6:1 and John 8:31 and Luke 4:4.

Grace is not calling bible perfection a Pharisee heresy---Romans 3:1-4.

Grace is not calling bible perfection an extremism doctrine on
works----Ephesians 2:8-10.

Rather grace is saying we have extremism doctrine on
works regarding animal offerings but not regarding repentance
with John 3:5 teaching on water baptism to be saved---Ephesians 2:8-10.

That mean 1 kind of works is of the devil and 1 kind of works is of
God---Romans 3:1-4.

1 kind of works of God is more then grace talk on the crucification of
Christ-----Romans 6:1 and John 8:31.

1 kind of works of the devil is doctrine clear enough with talk on
a natural high priest and circumcision of the forehead done---Ephesians 2:8.

Obviously doctrines of devils told about is works of the devil that have nothing to do with being saved.

Examples would be telling women to wear pants if their really Christian women.

Examples would be telling people not to give blood to the Red Cross cause the old testament said something about not having blood. This was talking about not having a sacrificed animal with blood left in it to eat. Had to do with eating the right animal and preparing an offering right. This has nothing to do with outlawing
the practice of giving blood to the Red Cross or hospital.

Examples would be telling people their not saved unless they speak in tongues.
Clearly the bible calls tongues a gift and not something you have to do to be right with God----Romans 11:29 and ALL of 1 Cor. 14.


Examples would be telling people their not intimate with God really unless they have giant faith all the time. The rich life in God is our faith to live out all the bible to be a disciple--Romans 10:17 and Matthew 4:4 and John 8:31. Faith all
the time from tribulation only is a narrow doctrine on what bible faith is all about
today---John 5:39.

Example would be telling people their not really a spiritual giant in God unless they have all kind of spiritual gifts used like a big shot preacher or testifying member
does. Our bible says make our calling and election sure not keep up with people
to be called a mature Christian with time. Our bible in Romans 6:2 or so says to deal honestly with ourself as God has dealed to every person the measure of grace on them with a gift only. If God has given Johnny the faith to know God has given him the grace to act out 2 or 3 spiritual gifts then Amen. If not then Johnny would be content in God the way he is. Spiritual gifts are not a full achievement to strive for without the knowledge of whether God has given us the grace to be in any of them.
 
I didn't quite read all of that but yes, having a relationship with God goes hand in hand with following the rules of the Bible. Without following them, when we sin, I think that puts us outside of our relationship with Him.. Jesus can't be within us when there is unrepentant sin in our lives I believe.
 
I love my wife and my goal is her happiness to the extent that I can deliver. When she informs me about things that take away from our relationship, e.g., the rules that I must follow to meet my end goal of seeing her happy, I know what areas of our relationship I have to watch out for.

I love God and my goal is for His happiness to the extent that I can deliver. He has informed me about those things that take away from our relationship, and so to meet my end goal I try my best to abide by those rules.

I don't follow the rules because God tells me I must. I follow the rules because God loves me and I love God and I want to please God. Don't follow the rules so that God will forgive you, follow the rules because of what God already has done.
 
While a motive for good gives a Christian a pure heart we can be like Judas and have a good intent repenting but commiting suicide you can't repent of later.

The heart of the matter is whether one mocks any of the bible or not before they say their a Christian.

One thing to fall and another thing. to mock John 3:5.
Neither one is good but obviously a John 3:5 mocker is not a Christian.
Tony not saying it but the bible saying it-----Romans 3:1-4.
That's all the religion we need on thou shall not judge.
 
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