Please Give Me A Break

[AirDancer]

Years ago us kids would build forts in the church.. ... Seems i remember blankets on the floor.. moms would put the little ones on the blankets sort under the pew in front of them.. the benches looked about like this .. yet a bit more 'rustic'

Now that would have been fun as a little one!

 

[reba]

Living in the literal church was fun at that age... in 1954 not every home had 2 bathrooms we did although the shower was in the kitchen...

 

[YosefHayim]

1984

 

[jasonc]

1984

hardly, that could have happened a few decades ago.
zoning laws are funny. its been unlawful for me to work on my car longer for then 4 hours for decades.

 

[reba]

I love living in the country...

 

[jasonc]

I love living in the country...

you mean with that drought?

I wouldn't say where you live is all that different then where I live now. I have seen that location. the funny thing is that all the roads that I learn to drive on where laid out in the 50's. and up the late 90s they were still building those homes on that plan. ie where I live now( 56 years later), and my parents.

 

[Christ_empowered]

I see the point in zoning laws and other regulations. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people, without some sort of regulations in place, would do crazy things with their property, given the resources. Why? I dunno. I mean, I always thought of zoning and Community rules as being a middle class, upper middle class thing, but I've read and heard of more affluent people turning into Neighbors From Hell, so...I guess its everybody, lol. Actually...with rich people, it could be worse: they can afford to do a lot more terrible things, and they can afford lawyers. Ugh.

Where I live, the big thing isn't zoning...its getting your old house on some sort of official register. Its a pain. And then keeping it on there...apparently, they have all sorts of rules on what you can and cannot do to your house if you want to qualify for or stay on the List. Bad for the homeowner; probably good for aesthetics and maintaining little pieces of history.

So..yeah...its sad but true that zoning and other regulations probably make it possible for people to coexist. This abuse of zoning regulations is ridiculous. I think the real problem is that people can't solve their problems without resorting to rules, lawyers, police, courts, all that. And people who make and enforce rules clearly don't like to cut other people slack, and not just with zoning.

I read some sociology stuff about "micro-aggression" in modern day society...basically, we're becoming tactless, rude, and litigous. On the plus side, many violent crimes are less frequent that in decades past, lol. Oh well....

 

[jasonc]

http://insidevero.com/2015/04/08/south-barrier-island-resident-calls-for-annexation/#more-32096

read the last paragraph. I have been working that entire section assigned to me. from city limits south to the county line the barrier island.

 

[jasonc]

I see the point in zoning laws and other regulations. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people, without some sort of regulations in place, would do crazy things with their property, given the resources. Why? I dunno. I mean, I always thought of zoning and Community rules as being a middle class, upper middle class thing, but I've read and heard of more affluent people turning into Neighbors From Hell, so...I guess its everybody, lol. Actually...with rich people, it could be worse: they can afford to do a lot more terrible things, and they can afford lawyers. Ugh.

Where I live, the big thing isn't zoning...its getting your old house on some sort of official register. Its a pain. And then keeping it on there...apparently, they have all sorts of rules on what you can and cannot do to your house if you want to qualify for or stay on the List. Bad for the homeowner; probably good for aesthetics and maintaining little pieces of history.

So..yeah...its sad but true that zoning and other regulations probably make it possible for people to coexist. This abuse of zoning regulations is ridiculous. I think the real problem is that people can't solve their problems without resorting to rules, lawyers, police, courts, all that. And people who make and enforce rules clearly don't like to cut other people slack, and not just with zoning.

I read some sociology stuff about "micro-aggression" in modern day society...basically, we're becoming tactless, rude, and litigous. On the plus side, many violent crimes are less frequent that in decades past, lol. Oh well....

there was a better way to deal with that problem. I do think the ruling is stupid. I would like to watch the code enforcement board and why they recommend that. im sure you all would think laws against 30 day or less rentals is a tad overboard. its not when its linked to crime

 

[jasonc]

I see the point in zoning laws and other regulations. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people, without some sort of regulations in place, would do crazy things with their property, given the resources. Why? I dunno. I mean, I always thought of zoning and Community rules as being a middle class, upper middle class thing, but I've read and heard of more affluent people turning into Neighbors From Hell, so...I guess its everybody, lol. Actually...with rich people, it could be worse: they can afford to do a lot more terrible things, and they can afford lawyers. Ugh.

Where I live, the big thing isn't zoning...its getting your old house on some sort of official register. Its a pain. And then keeping it on there...apparently, they have all sorts of rules on what you can and cannot do to your house if you want to qualify for or stay on the List. Bad for the homeowner; probably good for aesthetics and maintaining little pieces of history.

So..yeah...its sad but true that zoning and other regulations probably make it possible for people to coexist. This abuse of zoning regulations is ridiculous. I think the real problem is that people can't solve their problems without resorting to rules, lawyers, police, courts, all that. And people who make and enforce rules clearly don't like to cut other people slack, and not just with zoning.

I read some sociology stuff about "micro-aggression" in modern day society...basically, we're becoming tactless, rude, and litigous. On the plus side, many violent crimes are less frequent that in decades past, lol. Oh well....

there was a better way to deal with that problem. I do think the ruling is stupid. I would like to watch the code enforcement board and why they recommend that. im sure you all would think laws against 30 day or less rentals is a tad overboard. its not when its linked to crime

 

[tim-from-pa]

ZONING LAWS: the facade of environmentalism or safety considerations to say what you can do with your own property.

This is a perfect example of bureaucracy gone wild telling a person they can't have a big cardboard playhouse in their yard. But if you live where I do a big pipeline is going thru our yards and wrecking the water sheds and they are confiscating our properties for their financial gain, and that's OK, but not a cardboard house? The difference is that the natural gas companies have 10 billion dollars and a guy who has cardboard boxes like him does not.

Yes, Jesus was right about leaven raising that loaf that the woman made. It was always evil infiltrating the good. A big field of tares amongst the few good grain. That's what this nation became.

 

[jasonc]

ZONING LAWS: the facade of environmentalism or safety considerations to say what you can do with your own property.

This is a perfect example of bureaucracy gone wild telling a person they can't have a big cardboard playhouse in their yard. But if you live where I do a big pipeline is going thru our yards and wrecking the water sheds and they are confiscating our properties for their financial gain, and that's OK, but not a cardboard house? The difference is that the natural gas companies have 10 billion dollars and a guy who has cardboard boxes like him does not.

Yes, Jesus was right about leaven raising that loaf that the woman made. It was always evil infiltrating the good. A big field of tares amongst the few good grain. That's what this nation became.

so where was eco nuts when there was zoning laws in the 1920's?
or before? oh wait. you believe in that I can be as destructive to to my property and don't care if it drops the value of your home.

yes a lot of those silly laws are to prevent and also how tall grass and snakes and rats. silly me. I have had to kill those in my own yard after a lot was cleared. the lot had simply tall grass over 2 ft.
silly me for caring not to dump oil down the water ways where I might eat some fish. swim in or boat. or grow with. the canal here served both as irrigation and drainage. drainage if the rain was too much and irrigation if its just right. I have looked at the old canals in the planning images of the county dated 1936. in the mid 1800's about the time after the civil war a canal called taylor creek was planned. the rr tracks also were planned but not executed until the late 1800's where would Miami be without that vision that was taken on by henry flagler?

 

[reba]

I would not live where the community can tell ya what color to paint your home or what fence if any you can build.. (Not talking about safety issues )
The first time i read a CCand R i about puked... it was the first time i saw racism in print...

 

[jasonc]

I would not live where the community can tell ya what color to paint your home or what fence if any you can build.. (Not talking about safety issues )
The first time i read a CCand R i about puked... it was the first time i saw racism in print...

those aren't cities. those are deed restricted. don't confuse them. a city might have those laws but even on the barrier island unless its some gated community. its not like that. I cant post the homes I was at today from a ground view. I have one electic one I wanted to post that looks like a mix of the hobbit shire, meets pueblo indian and survivalist. its is out there yet next to two gated communites and not easily seen. it sits back about a third of a mile. plenty of those things on the beach.

 

[reba]

I know jasonc ...

 

[jasonc]

as a society we have lost balence.

 

[reba]

Aint that the truth..

 

[jasonc]

the best thing this man can do is appeal the decision of the code enforcement in court.

 

[Obadiah]

I would not live where the community can tell ya what color to paint your home or what fence if any you can build.. (Not talking about safety issues )
The first time i read a CCand R i about puked... it was the first time i saw racism in print...

Yep, I agree. When I first moved up here to Washington and started looking for a house to buy almost every little neighborhood had their own little communist CC&R requirements. I refused to buy a house in any neighborhood that had them, which meant I was limited to only one or two small neighborhoods. In some places I wouldn't have even been able to park in my own driveway or anywhere near my house because my only transportation was a pickup truck with a camper on it, and they had regulations saying I couldn't park an "RV" at my residence. No exceptions made if the "RV" was also my primary transportation and no definition of what an "RV" was. They could put that title on pretty much anything that wasn't a car. I was told I would have to keep my camper in storage and walk there (several miles) to get it every time I wanted to drive it somewhere. Or I should just "buy a car like everyone else". And that was a city ordinance in one of the towns here too, not just a CC&R! Yes, welcome to the Soviet Socialist Republic of Amerika.

 

[jeff77]

Wow, I never heard of CC&R requirements. Sounds pretty crazy.