Please Help Keep Sex Fetishism Out of Children's Television

[Ben Boxer]

This is truly disturbing.

(ToS 2.10)

 

[Brother Mike]

This is truly disturbing.

Please sign and share if you agree this kind of stuff is wrong for kids.

https://www.change.org/p/nickelodeon-viacom-keep-sex-fetishism-out-of-children-s-television

They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
(1Jn 4:5)

Seriously? Your first post to a Christian Forum is to sign a petition asking a corporation that is planted in the world, to suddenly not be part of the world, but cherish the Word of God.

Because I let my children watch worldly, and ungodly shows, the ungodly must change to my views.

It's ALWAYS has been wrong for kids. Wake up!!! Most of their programming has been wrong for kids.

Does it take something clearly blatant for you to see the light? You been that asleep?

No, Nickelodeon does not need to change. WE are told........ Us......... to be not spotted with the World. That means we don't let our kids watch Nickelodeon, and if we do, we make sure we instill enough God in them to know the truth and cast down what is of the devil.

If the cuckold has finally gotten your attention, it's far to late.

Mike.

 

[Nordica]

Brother Mike,
Still, we are supposed to be the light to this world and the salt of the earth. What does the salt do? It preserves and stops decay. We should also do our best to stop moral decay.

"A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven" (Matt. 5:15,16).

We should stand against the spread of darkness, otherwise we will be "no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men". (Matt 5:13).

 

[Brother Mike]

Brother Mike,
Still, we are supposed to be the light to this world and the salt of the earth. What does the salt do? It preserves and stops decay. We should also do our best to stop moral decay.

"A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven" (Matt. 5:15,16).

We should stand against the spread of darkness, otherwise we will be "no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men". (Matt 5:13).

At what point was Nickelodeon serving God and not in decay? The thing that concerns me is that it takes something blatant to grab our attention, when all along we have been deceived into thinking it was good.

The best thing it to not Watch Nickelodeon. There is lots more on there that is not good. What doe we want? We want what the world is watching, and the devil stop being the devil to make our conscience happy, while being deceived by the things we don't see.

 

[Nordica]

I used to watch some programs on Nickelodeon 15 years ago, at the time it wasn't too bad, as far as I can remember. I used to like Cartoon Network too when it showed Popeye and Looney Tunes (and being the 90's kid, It didn't matter to me that those cartoons were from around mid 20-th century), but when I switched this channel some years ago, I was disappointed. Seems like they create cartoons and programs to appeal to "modern" kids, but it looked way too much.

Nowadays, yes, It is best not to watch these channels, but many kids still do; if not at home, they can watch that at their friend's house or online, and if nobody appeals to the conscience of these show/cartoon-makers, things will get even worse.

 

[Brother Mike]

I used to watch some programs on Nickelodeon 15 years ago, at the time it wasn't too bad, as far as I can remember. I used to like Cartoon Network too when it showed Popeye and Looney Tunes (and being the 90's kid, It didn't matter to me that those cartoons were from around mid 20-th century), but when I switched this channel some years ago, I was disappointed. Seems like they create cartoons and programs to appeal to "modern" kids, but it looked way too much.

Nowadays, yes, It is best not to watch these channels, but many kids still do; if not at home, they can watch that at their friend's house or online, and if nobody appeals to the conscience of these show/cartoon-makers, things will get even worse.

I complete understand what your saying. Being Christians we should appeal to the soft consciences of those that make kid shows.Let's have clean TV for Kids.

I understand it makes sense.

The problem with this thinking is that, today is not the days of 20 years ago, and it was not even much better 30 years ago.

I am trying to explain something to you here. None of it's Good, and has not been good for a long time. So while we see something blatant, and we need to stand against it. Go look at what Disney was doing in 1977. It's not going to change the message to get children to rebel, have fears, think of sex, and think that right is not right or wrong is not wrong unless the situation calls for such judgement. Lying is OK, as long as it's good lying.

Please check this link out.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/rescuers.asp

A nude women from the top up, in a cartoon for kids. Disney did not even recall that movie until 20 years later, and made a big profit from selling the originals out with the topless women.

Watching a couple Disney shows the other day. The kids are smarter than the parents, the parents are irresponsible, and this type of theme played in 3 different shows. This is instilling rebellion, and it will effect the child's relationship with God if we pour this junk into them.

Disney is not going to change, Nickelodeon is not going to change, and it's what we don't see, like those naked women pics in the Disney cartoon, it's those things running through the minds of our young ones we want to grow up and serve God.

 

[Nordica]

The problem with this thinking is that, today is not the days of 20 years ago, and it was not even much better 30 years ago.

I am trying to explain something to you here. None of it's Good, and has not been good for a long time. So while we see something blatant, and we need to stand against it. Go look at what Disney was doing in 1977. It's not going to change the message to get children to rebel, have fears, think of sex, and think that right is not right or wrong is not wrong unless the situation calls for such judgement. Lying is OK, as long as it's good lying.

Watching a couple Disney shows the other day. The kids are smarter than the parents, the parents are irresponsible, and this type of theme played in 3 different shows. This is instilling rebellion, and it will effect the child's relationship with God if we pour this junk into them.

Disney is not going to change, Nickelodeon is not going to change, and it's what we don't see, like those naked women pics in the Disney cartoon, it's those things running through the minds of our young ones we want to grow up and serve God.

Brother Mike, the evil has spread so much that of course it's quite easy to give up and think that doing something against it would be like tilting at windmills. But why then Jesus spoke about us being the light to the world and the salt of the earth? It is just a beautiful metaphor? How can we practically be light and salt? Some people see blunt things, they can stand against them. Some people see more subtler ones, and what prevents them from doing something about it?

Taking action brings results, and we can see that with homosexuals. Many of them would use every opportunity to promote their rights; and why are we, Christians, so passive? Christian values are being trampled on more and more, but most of us prefer to turn a blind eye.

Let me share my personal experience. Once I visited a resort town and was apalled to see beach blankets being sold in the open with huge naked women on them right next to children's toys at the stalls, leading up to the beach. There were quite a few stalls (more than ten), and I spoke with each and every seller, and nearly all of them (apart from one) hid those blankets. Then I entered one souvenier shop, and was amazed to see really pornographic souveniers (with big phalli and the actual sex act) and spoke to the maker of these souveniers. He tried to justify himself that he makes that because people buy it, besides internet is full of pornography, so it wasn't a big deal. I took pictures of these souveniers and blankets with naked women and then sent them to the mayor of that resort, asking him to deal with that and enquiring, why such really pornographic material is in the open for kids to see. He didn't reply to me, BUT I kept coming back to that resort two consecutive years, and no blankets with naked women were to be seen anywhere anymore. Moreover, I visited that souvenier shop, and didn't see any pornography there either! So, it actually can work! Although I could have just done nothing about it, and it would still be there.

 

[Pizza]

And people wonder why I have not owned a TV since 2008.

And in the early 90's, when I turned the TV off for four months, the revolt from my young sons lasted a few days - but when the discovered that I intended to spend that time WITH them instead of letting the TV babysit/raise my boys, the revolt ended.

I almost agree with Brother Mike here - almost. My response is, "get rid of the TV." But then, I'm not being a light to the world.....

 

[Brother Mike]

Brother Mike, the evil has spread so much that of course it's quite easy to give up and think that doing something against it would be like tilting at windmills. But why then Jesus spoke about us being the light to the world and the salt of the earth? It is just a beautiful metaphor? How can we practically be light and salt? Some people see blunt things, they can stand against them. Some people see more subtler ones, and what prevents them from doing something about it?

Taking action brings results, and we can see that with homosexuals. Many of them would use every opportunity to promote their rights; and why are we, Christians, so passive? Christian values are being trampled on more and more, but most of us prefer to turn a blind eye.

Is that your daughter in your avatar? I have a daughter that is 8. We can't always protect our kids from evil, but we can teach them to avoid it, a see it for what it is. I am not the Christian parent that wants to protect my daughter from the World, but to instruct her to live for Jesus and survive the World. The Greater on is in us and is greater than the one in the world, and our faith overcomes this world.

We as believers can't take the blame for the World going down in the sewer though. There are also scriptures we have to take into account.

2Ti_3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

Mat_24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

The U.S Supreme court giving the go ahead on same sex marriage for all 50 states just beats to pieces anything Nickelodeon can put on for programming. Since same sex marriage is legal, what are they going to start teaching in our schools? It is pretty unsettling.

Nickelodeon is sort of a very tiny blip, compared to what is going on around us.

Thank you for sharing the story of you doing something about those nude women on the towels. Taking action to a place you were to enjoy is the right thing to do. We need to know how this works though.

They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
(Mar 16:18)

Some translations say they shall pick up snakes, not advised. Jesus is speaking of supernatural things, He means they shall remove, take away, devils. In other words, where we are at, the light is at, and devils have to make way.

When I walk into a place, the Light in me, is going to overcome my atmosphere, not the other way around. We have authority were we are at, devils are very territorial and don't like us in their dwelling places.

So, there are powerful spiritual laws operating for you when you brought to attention those nude women. There is a reason why it worked so well as it did.

In a neighborhood a preacher lived in, a porn shop opened up. That is His neighborhood, so this preacher walks in the porn shop and starts looking around. The guy working there asked if He could be helped, the preacher said nope, just walking around. Every step he took, he claimed it for the Lord Jesus, and when down he walked up to the worker and said, "You will be needing to find a new Job, get to looking." he walked out and said, "Be cursed, close in the name of Jesus."

It closed down a couple weeks later, the business just dried up, and hardly any customers would go in there anymore.

Where your at, the Lord is at, the Holy Spirit is at. That is a whole lot of power against darkness.

My point was to the poster. They are so concerned about this one show, but not enough to even post back here. Being focused on one thing when the whole thing is corrupt is being blinded. You accept the rest of the devils work, but just not some of it. We need to see things as a whole for what they are though. That is the point I am trying to make, my point was not to do nothing.

Now if the whole thing is corrupt, the Whole thing needs shut down, not just a part of it.

Blessings and thank you for writing to me.

Mike

 

[Nordica]

I also don't own a TV

But throwing TV away isn't the answer to the problem. Kids have friends with TVs, they can watch programs online, etc.
If you have better ideas how we can be light to this world, please share them...
But I still think that doing at least something is better than doing nothing at all.

 

[Brother Mike]

I also don't own a TV

But throwing TV away isn't the answer to the problem. Kids have friends with TVs, they can watch programs online, etc.
If you have better ideas how we can be light to this world, please share them...
But I still think that doing at least something is better than doing nothing at all.

We don't have a TV either. We need to do what the Lord directs, not things that look good, or do things for the sake of doing something. If the Lord is not in it, it won't work, and no power to back it.

Jesus said without me, ye can do nothing. If the Lord directs you to go after this programming, then do that.

 

[Nordica]

OK, brother Mike, I got your point, thanks for posting back
Hehe, no it's not my daughter, it's me :D But I have a 6 year-old niece, and I deal with kids. Her parents don't really supervise what she watches on TV, but I introduce her to Christian cartoons and good cartoons; and if she saw some "bad" cartoons and told me about it, then we discuss it, and I tell her that Jesus wouldn't approve of this or that thing.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

My response is, "get rid of the TV." But then, I'm not being a light to the world.....

But you are being a light to the world. In the passage the light that is shining is the light of your deeds, not our talk. But I don't want to take away from what Nordica did, because it is amazing what simply speaking up and confronting people about what they do wrong can do. It may not change them but it does sometimes keep them from being so openly wicked. Confrontation is one of the hardest Biblical principles to act on. But we all have to do it sooner or later, whether it's in a marriage, or confronting the sidewalk vendor. I hate doing it. See me? That's me way back at the end of the line of confronters.

 

[Brother Mike]

OK, brother Mike, I got your point, thanks for posting back
Hehe, no it's not my daughter, it's me :biggrin But I have a 6 year-old niece, and I deal with kids. Her parents don't really supervise what she watches on TV, but I introduce her to Christian cartoons and good cartoons; and if she saw some "bad" cartoons and told me about it, then we discuss it, and I tell her that Jesus wouldn't approve of this or that thing.

That is the approach I take. We can't keep our kids in a box, then one day say go out into the World.

You look really young for 30. Is that Oil of Olya? If so, I am off to see of they sell the gallon size jugs.

be blessed.
Mike

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I have a daughter that is 8. We can't always protect our kids from evil, but we can teach them to avoid it, a see it for what it is. I

AMEN!

I grew very tired of being told that the Christian thing is to thoroughly insulate your children from evil in the world, instead of having the guts to educate them and then cut them loose. It's not fun but that's where faith comes in. Sometimes you just gotta let things go and put the faith we all like to sing about in action and truly trust God for a change.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

My point was to the poster. They are so concerned about this one show, but not enough to even post back here.

Chances are good the poster is not at all concerned about children. On the internet any time you provide your name and some information about yourself, like your age, you're most likely being targeted for marketing purposes. Sad, but true.

 

[Nordica]

That is the approach I take. We can't keep our kids in a box, then one day say go out into the World.

You look really young for 30. Is that Oil of Olya? If so, I am off to see of they sell the gallon size jugs.

be blessed.
Mike

Being "in a box" isn't too bad, either. :D I was like that growing up. My family had quite a few troubles, so my mum did all her best to protect me, and I also preferred my own world.
I am thankful to my mum for protection. No matter what was going on around, I had a carefree childhood. I wasn't burdened by problems and wasn't really exposed to evils of this world. Probably this is the reason I look so young :D (ok, actually this photo was taken when I was 26, but I didn't change much since then). I am not saying it's ideal, as I can be a bit naive and not always good at coping with the challenges of reality, but I still deal with this world quite successfully.

You too be blessed, Mike

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Maybe the church would get a lot more respect for their opinions about what the world is polluting everybody with if the church actually taught on Sunday's what only a very few in the church individually proclaim to the world. See, when a single Christian starts ranting and raving about something, they get perceived as a fringe lunatic. But if the church as a whole took a stance against some very particular, specific activities I believe it would carry a little more clout. But instead even the church is all about 'freedom' and the vagueness and ill-defined borders, as they see it, of right and wrong.

A good start is John Piper coming out against Christians watching Game of Thrones. I've never watched a single episode but all I had to do was Google the IMDB parents guide for the show and......well.....I'm utterly stunned that even a single Christian watches that show. I fear for how many children are watching that show......with their parents.

 

[jasonc]

lol, jam the airwaves with static noise.

 

[Pizza]

Seriously? Your first post to a Christian Forum is to sign a petition asking a corporation that is planted in the world, to suddenly not be part of the world, but cherish the Word of God.

Well, if his first post here was a light hearted attempt at humor, it would have been ignored.
At least he posted something that was responded to.