Police officers

[AIR]

Are there any police officers in this forums?

 

[AIR]

Interesting job, does that fit to a christian?

 

[AirDancer]

Why wouldn't it "fit to a Christian"?

 

[jasoncran]

ok, I am an mp for the army national guard. does that count?

 

[Randy]

Interesting job, does that fit to a christian?

I would think the One who stated "administer true justice" understands the importance in law enforcement. Otherwise you have lawlessness. That doesn't speak to agreement with all the laws man makes.

Cornelius was a Roman Centurion. (soldier) So ones job in itself doesn't speak to ones righteousness. (Loving one another is Gods command)

 

[Mountain Man]

A Police officer is a servant and agent of the state/King to carry out the will of the state/King in the lives of the citizen/subjects.

 

[handy]

A Police officer is a servant and agent of the state/King to carry out the will of the state/King in the lives of the citizen/subjects.

And in turn, the state/King is a minister of God for our own good. Romans 13:3-4

 

[Tony Hyman]

Retired , Now serving God.

 

[Mountain Man]

A Police officer is a servant and agent of the state/King to carry out the will of the state/King in the lives of the citizen/subjects.

And in turn, the state/King is a minister of God for our own good. Romans 13:3-4

Not always....one day they will be ministers of persecution and death on behalf of their new King.

 

[jasoncran]

when paul wrote that, it was in the days of a most corrupt government.

 

[Deborah13]

I would think the One who stated "administer true justice" understands the importance in law enforcement.

I agree with you. Looks like God was pretty clear about His judicial and court system. Some of the 613 Laws

http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm

1. To appoint judges and officers in every community of Israel (Deut. 16:18) (affirmative).
2. Not to appoint as a judge, a person who is not well versed in the laws of the Torah, even if he is expert in other branches of knowledge (Deut. 1:17) (CCN64).
3. To adjudicate cases of purchase and sale (Lev. 25:14) (CCA67).
4. To judge cases of liability of a paid depositary (Ex. 22:9) (affirmative).
5. To adjudicate cases of loss for which a gratuitous borrower is liable (Ex. 22:13-14) (affirmative).
6. To adjudicate cases of inheritances (Num. 27:8-11) (CCA73).
7. To judge cases of damage caused by an uncovered pit (Ex. 21:33-34) (affirmative).
8. To judge cases of injuries caused by beasts (Ex. 21:35-36) (affirmative).
9. To adjudicate cases of damage caused by trespass of cattle (Ex. 22:4) (affirmative).
10. To adjudicate cases of damage caused by fire (Ex. 22:5) (affirmative).
11. To adjudicate cases of damage caused by a gratuitous depositary (Ex. 22:6-7) (affirmative).
12. To adjudicate other cases between a plaintiff and a defendant (Ex. 22:8) (affirmative).
13. Not to curse a judge (Ex. 22:27) (CCN63).
14. That one who possesses evidence shall testify in Court (Lev. 5:1) (affirmative).
15. Not to testify falsely (Ex. 20:13) (CCN39).
16. That a witness, who has testified in a capital case, shall not lay down the law in that particular case (Num. 35:30) (negative).
17. That a transgressor shall not testify (Ex. 23:1) (CCN75).
18. That the court shall not accept the testimony of a close relative of the defendant in matters of capital punishment (Deut. 24:16) (CCN74).
19. Not to hear one of the parties to a suit in the absence of the other party (Ex. 23:1) (CCN65).
20. To examine witnesses thoroughly (Deut. 13:15) (affirmative).
21. Not to decide a case on the evidence of a single witness (Deut. 19:15) (CCN73).
22. To give the decision according to the majority, when there is a difference of opinion among the members of the Sanhedrin as to matters of law (Ex. 23:2) (affirmative).
23. Not to decide, in capital cases, according to the view of the majority, when those who are for condemnation exceed by one only, those who are for acquittal (Ex. 23:2) (negative).
24. That, in capital cases, one who had argued for acquittal, shall not later on argue for condemnation (Ex. 23:2) (negative).
25. To treat parties in a litigation with equal impartiality (Lev. 19:15) (affirmative).
26. Not to render iniquitous decisions (Lev. 19:15) (CCN69).
27. Not to favor a great man when trying a case (Lev. 19:15) (CCN70).
28. Not to take a bribe (Ex. 23:8) (CCN71).
29. Not to be afraid of a bad man, when trying a case (Deut. 1:17) (CCN72).
30. Not to be moved in trying a case, by the poverty of one of the parties (Ex. 23:3; Lev. 19:15) (CCN66).
31. Not to pervert the judgment of strangers or orphans (Deut. 24:17) (CCN68).
32. Not to pervert the judgment of a sinner (a person poor in fulfillment of commandments) (Ex. 23:6) (CCN67).
33. Not to render a decision on one's personal opinion, but only on the evidence of two witnesses, who saw what actually occurred (Ex. 23:7) (negative).
34. Not to execute one guilty of a capital offense, before he has stood his trial (Num. 35:12) (negative).
35. To accept the rulings of every Supreme Court in Israel (Deut. 17:11) (affirmative).
36. Not to rebel against the orders of the Court (Deut. 17:11) (CCN158).

 

[Obadiah]

I'm a retired police officer.

 

[Mountain Man]

when paul wrote that, it was in the days of a most corrupt government.

And....

 

[Free]

Are there any police officers in this forums?

I've considered it and am considering it still as a career change.

 

[handy]

A Police officer is a servant and agent of the state/King to carry out the will of the state/King in the lives of the citizen/subjects.

And in turn, the state/King is a minister of God for our own good. Romans 13:3-4

Not always....one day they will be ministers of persecution and death on behalf of their new King.

At the time Paul wrote this, most viewed the Romans as ministers of persecution and death on behalf of their emperor, mainly because they were. Nonetheless, any government then, now and in the future is God's chosen instrument of both authority and wrath. The "day" which you are looking forward to will be no different, for no man can take any authority here on earth unless God will's it to be so. We might face persecution as innocents, but if we do, we've done nothing less than our Lord did when He submitted to being put to death. As long as we are submitting to the true Authority, God Himself, we have nothing to fear.

 

[jasoncran]

Are there any police officers in this forums?

I've considered it and am considering it still as a career change.

what, you? shoot a weapon? wow just wow. when you do pm me.

 

[Mountain Man]

A Police officer is a servant and agent of the state/King to carry out the will of the state/King in the lives of the citizen/subjects.

And in turn, the state/King is a minister of God for our own good. Romans 13:3-4

Not always....one day they will be ministers of persecution and death on behalf of their new King.

At the time Paul wrote this, most viewed the Romans as ministers of persecution and death on behalf of their emperor, mainly because they were. Nonetheless, any government then, now and in the future is God's chosen instrument of both authority and wrath. The "day" which you are looking forward to will be no different, for no man can take any authority here on earth unless God will's it to be so. We might face persecution as innocents, but if we do, we've done nothing less than our Lord did when He submitted to being put to death. As long as we are submitting to the true Authority, God Himself, we have nothing to fear.

My comment did not attempt refute or challenge any of that,i am a believer that it is best to pursue righteousness and blessing and avoid cursing,and never presume that I will react in a certain way at a certain time....had Peter not been so quick to announce what he thought he would do under pressure perhaps he would have been spared what he in fact did do under pressure...most American Christians have a flippant and dismissive attitude towards persecution having never experienced it.I pray for the strength to endure and do not assume that I will endure it...my statement about the Police is just fact and is in no way in conflict with the Bible or what it has to say about them but as their loyalties change they will change and will be an exception to the biblical definition...also I said nothing about "looking forward" to anything...it is just coming...it has nothing to do with me or what I want.

 

[Mountain Man]

when paul wrote that, it was in the days of a most corrupt government.

And....

well handy addressed that. the us government was it righteously doing this in the days of the slavery?

"all men were created equal.."

oh, if you were indian and black and also poor, a woman voting wasn't for you!

I guess the founders were bad to follow too. I mention this to show while I am not saying we shouldn't speak against corruption just that well if they pass a law and its not against god's law its reasonable to follow it.i don't like taxes, the irs. doest it make it right then I should fail to pay the irs? I don't like the fees for simply building an addition or fence in my yard. I guess I shouldn't follow them either.that is her point.

There are Christians who think that America's rebellion against England was evil and we should have remained British subjects,they think all rebellion is evil and that slavery,oppression and tyranny are always the will of God for his people under what they consider to be the only form of government approved by God which is a monarchy,and that it is the will of God that the people live and die at the mercy of the King....had they had their way it would have been best to not even been born.

 

[jasoncran]

This message has been deleted by jasoncran.
<dl class="postcontent deletereason"><dt>Reason</dt><dd>handy said it better

</dd><dd>I deleted that post, kindly delete yours. I deleted that before you responded as I was reading what you said earlier.im not against the rebellion of tyranny but being a student of that. it wasn't so cut and dry. it was also brother against brother.war seldom is clean cut. I have seen it. if we are to fight then let fight for a worthy cause but well that isn't the topic.</dd></dl>

 

[Lewis]

ok, I am an mp for the army national guard. does that count?

yup you are a cop