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Maybe I'm slow to understand, but, do you, any of you Christians, see a connection between
politics and religion?
The things that are happening now, are looking like they are heading for the last days, and the
rule of the antichrist, the mark of the beast, etc.

Seems like you can't buy or sell NOW, without a computer. Cash is rarely used. Checks are rarely used.
Electronic money is the thing. You don't even see your money now. Just transfer it.

Plus, these meetings in Copenhagen about global warming, and climate change.
I don't understand the connection btwn it, and a global religion, as someone suggested in another
website, but, if you do, please explain it to me.
 
By watching the political scene we can know around where we are in bible prophecy. The bible uses the arena of world leaders to let us know what will be happening in the end times. Politics and a persons moral compass go hand in glove, so yes politics and religion very much go together and expose the heart.

I believe we are in the end times now, although not totally engulfed in the time of captivity yet. We are on the fringes of it. Many will follow their wicked political views (man) to the end, to their own destruction. It's time to seek the Lord and only follow Him.
 
Biblereader said:
Seems like you can't buy or sell NOW, without a computer. Cash is rarely used. Checks are rarely used.
Electronic money is the thing. You don't even see your money now. Just transfer it.

Plus, these meetings in Copenhagen about global warming, and climate change.
I don't understand the connection btwn it, and a global religion, as someone suggested in another
website, but, if you do, please explain it to me.

I don't see the truth in your first statement. Relatives of mine have preferred to deal with cash as opposed to banks and have no trouble obtaining necessary goods and services. There are a few companies that require a credit card to secure something like a reservation or a deposit, but many will accept a cash deposit or a check deposit in its place, and one can always use a debit card numbers to secure a reservation whilst paying cash at the time of the actual bill. I use cash for nearly everything though I do have a bank account with a debit card; I have no credit cards because I don't agree with the high interest rates.

What is concerning you about climate change in particular?
 
i do believe that we will be soon entering the tribulation - at the longest in the next couple of years most likley. i think that we are seeing it all around us everywhere
 
Biblereader said:
The things that are happening now, are looking like they are heading for the last days, and the
rule of the antichrist, the mark of the beast, etc.
We have been in the last days for two thousand years.

Biblereader said:
Seems like you can't buy or sell NOW, without a computer. Cash is rarely used. Checks are rarely used.
Electronic money is the thing. You don't even see your money now. Just transfer it.
What has that got to do with anything? What have you got against that?

Biblereader said:
Plus, these meetings in Copenhagen about global warming, and climate change.
I don't understand the connection btwn it, and a global religion, as someone suggested in another
website, but, if you do, please explain it to me.
I agree.
 
teacup said:
Biblereader said:
Seems like you can't buy or sell NOW, without a computer. Cash is rarely used. Checks are rarely used.
Electronic money is the thing. You don't even see your money now. Just transfer it.

Plus, these meetings in Copenhagen about global warming, and climate change.
I don't understand the connection btwn it, and a global religion, as someone suggested in another
website, but, if you do, please explain it to me.

I don't see the truth in your first statement. Relatives of mine have preferred to deal with cash as opposed to banks and have no trouble obtaining necessary goods and services. There are a few companies that require a credit card to secure something like a reservation or a deposit, but many will accept a cash deposit or a check deposit in its place, and one can always use a debit card numbers to secure a reservation whilst paying cash at the time of the actual bill. I use cash for nearly everything though I do have a bank account with a debit card; I have no credit cards because I don't agree with the high interest rates.

What is concerning you about climate change in particular?

That global warming is a lie. and, it is.
I'm betting you are a democrat, left winger, and not born again.
Am I correct?
 
While i dont believe in global warming my self, some here do and do actually want green energies and arent into population control and or other commie programs. They simply believe that is a good stewarship.
 
jasoncran said:
While i dont believe in global warming my self, some here do and do actually want green energies and arent into population control and or other commie programs. They simply believe that is a good stewarship.
:amen to that.

Biblereader, might want to stop with the assumptions and personal attacks.
 
Whoa Nick, I didn't have to look far did I, first topic I found thats even related to Politics and bam

I'm neutral on the global warming thing, if it is the source of the end time prophecy then I can in no way avoid it as the bible certifies it will go down how it will as fact, if it isn't than its not going to get in the way of whatever else is so no need to bother much anyway.

That said I still go for green technologies just cause they preserve resources etc. Personally I don't think it will be the whole global religion thing.

As for electronic Money, I like it. I'll start to get worried when those personal identification/tracker chips stop being a thing of novels and occasional prototypes and start actually being introduced, till then I think the end is actually pretty far off. Probably several decades, but highly unlikely to be over 100 years.
 
Slyvena said:
Whoa Nick, I didn't have to look far did I, first topic I found thats even related to Politics and bam
Yep ;)

Skyvena said:
I'm neutral on the global warming thing, if it is the source of the end time prophecy then I can in no way avoid it as the bible certifies it will go down how it will as fact, if it isn't than its not going to get in the way of whatever else is so no need to bother much anyway.
Good point. :)

Skyvena said:
That said I still go for green technologies just cause they preserve resources etc. Personally I don't think it will be the whole global religion thing.
Absolutely agree for green technologies, but I can see how some would make a religion out of preserving the envrionment, but I don't think it'll become this massive global anti-Christ thing.

Skyvena said:
As for electronic Money, I like it. I'll start to get worried when those personal identification/tracker chips stop being a thing of novels and occasional prototypes and start actually being introduced, till then I think the end is actually pretty far off. Probably several decades, but highly unlikely to be over 100 years.
I love e-money as well. EFTPOS is one of the greatest inventions ever! :) The personal ID tracker chips could not be as far off as some think, but I think it's still at least 15-20 years away. It will be interesting to see what happens with those.
 
Nick in america we can chip our pets and store medical data on that chip. It is also to find them if they are lost. We have had that since 1991. The technology is there. My dog has that chip in its right paw.
 
The thing that bothers me about the global warming bunny huggers is that they believe man is second to mother nature, green is their religion. Man is evil because we leave the biggest carbon footprint and not one word about being made in the image of God or that the earth is ours to use, not worship.
 
GojuBrian said:
The thing that bothers me about the global warming bunny huggers is that they believe man is second to mother nature, green is their religion. Man is evil because we leave the biggest carbon footprint and not one word about being made in the image of God or that the earth is ours to use, not worship.
Can you actually name these people, or did you see one person or heard people did this kind of thing, so you assumed all do this?


Thats almost as bad as saying all those who own a gun are gun nuts that shoot everything that moves. ( if someone actually thinks I think like this, then they seriously have no idea where I stand on the 2nd amendment.)

Believe it or not, Peta and The Animal Liberation front are actually pretty much hated by both the right and the Left.
 
jasoncran said:
Nick in america we can chip our pets and store medical data on that chip. It is also to find them if they are lost. We have had that since 1991. The technology is there. My dog has that chip in its right paw.

I meant introduction into Humans on a governmental policy scale, not the voluntary pet implantations of today, Human Chip technology isn't out yet primarily cause it doesn't do everything they want to it to reliably (as in monitor heart beat and cholesterol real time etc) and people tend to be naturally resistant to the idea. I meant I'd be concerned when these things started to turn around.
 
jasoncran said:
Nick in america we can chip our pets and store medical data on that chip. It is also to find them if they are lost. We have had that since 1991. The technology is there. My dog has that chip in its right paw.
It's called "microchipping" and has been in Australia for a while now as well. We were talking about it being implemented on humans, and more advanced chipping.

GojuBrian said:
The thing that bothers me about the global warming bunny huggers is that they believe man is second to mother nature, green is their religion. Man is evil because we leave the biggest carbon footprint and not one word about being made in the image of God or that the earth is ours to use, not worship.
Most are not as extreme as that. One can be pro environmental protection and pro global climate change and be pro God/Christian. The problem arises when one takes the envrionment ahead of God. Most people are not like this, but it may seem decepitvely so as there has been a big shift in recent years in this area.

Lance_Iguana said:
Can you actually name these people, or did you see one person or heard people did this kind of thing, so you assumed all do this?
Thats almost as bad as saying all those who own a gun are gun nuts that shoot everything that moves.
Exactly. It's just stereotyping and assumptions....not very fair, huh?
 
Lance_Iguana said:
GojuBrian said:
The thing that bothers me about the global warming bunny huggers is that they believe man is second to mother nature, green is their religion. Man is evil because we leave the biggest carbon footprint and not one word about being made in the image of God or that the earth is ours to use, not worship.
Can you actually name these people, or did you see one person or heard people did this kind of thing, so you assumed all do this?


Thats almost as bad as saying all those who own a gun are gun nuts that shoot everything that moves. ( if someone actually thinks I think like this, then they seriously have no idea where I stand on the 2nd amendment.)

Believe it or not, Peta and The Animal Liberation front are actually pretty much hated by both the right and the Left.

As usual Lance. :nag

I get this from the ads, from the media, it's painfully obvious to me what some of the bunny huggers would rather than not. Just chalk it up to my assumptions if it will help you sleep better.
 
GojuBrian said:
Lance_Iguana said:
GojuBrian said:
The thing that bothers me about the global warming bunny huggers is that they believe man is second to mother nature, green is their religion. Man is evil because we leave the biggest carbon footprint and not one word about being made in the image of God or that the earth is ours to use, not worship.
Can you actually name these people, or did you see one person or heard people did this kind of thing, so you assumed all do this?


Thats almost as bad as saying all those who own a gun are gun nuts that shoot everything that moves. ( if someone actually thinks I think like this, then they seriously have no idea where I stand on the 2nd amendment.)

Believe it or not, Peta and The Animal Liberation front are actually pretty much hated by both the right and the Left.

As usual Lance. :nag

I get this from the ads, from the media, it's painfully obvious to me what some of the bunny huggers would rather than not. Just chalk it up to my assumptions if it will help you sleep better.
I do havce to chock this up to assumption. Since I'm pretty sure the only 2 organizations that "adevertise" Are PETA and WWF. And the only add the WWF is running is on Polar bears.


Can you provide any names of organizations or even an activist?
 
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