Postmillennialism: Christendom's Bright Cheerful View Of The Future Of The Human Race.

[JAG ..]

The subject is Christian Eschatology.
Eschatology is about the future of Humanity.
There are 4 different major views of Christian Eschatology {listed below}.
Postmillennialism is the only one of the 4 that predicts a bright cheerful future
here on this Earth before human history ends.

So the question is raised:

What does the future hold for the Christian Church and the Human Race
here on planet Earth? The answer is the Human Race has a magnificent
optimistic bright cheerful future.

The world will eventually become a Christian world. This will require many
millenniums yet to come as human history rolls forward. This does not
mean that every single person on Earth will become a Christian, rather
it means that the human race, as a race, will be saved and the vast
overwhelming majority of human beings will, in the far off future,
become Christian.

The Lord Jesus' Great Commission To His Christian Church is about
His Church Christianizing the world:

The Lord Jesus told His disciples at the end of Matthew's gospel chapter
28 to go and make disciples of all the nations. His disciples needed power
to accomplish this great task. The Lord Jesus told them what this power
was. He said "all authority in Heaven and on Earth has been given to me,
therefore go and make disciples of all nations . . . teaching them to obey
all that I have commanded you." Matthew 28:18-20

The Lord Jesus was serious when He gave His Christian Church her Great
Commission. His Great Commission is a command and not a suggestion.

Therefore His Great Commission to go and make disciples of all the nations
will be successfully accomplished before He returns to Earth to end human
history -- the world will eventually become Christian. "He must reign until
He has put all his enemies under His feet." 1 Cor. 15:25
"For He (God) has put everything under His feet." 1 Cor. 15:27

The Lord Jesus right NOW is reigning as King over this entire world and He is
gradually incrementally Christianizing the entire world. Again, how long will this
take? It will take many many millenniums yet to unfold, but He will be victorious.
We must be patient. This is going to take a very long time.

Meanwhile . .

Unfortunately there is a lot of Doom and Gloom and Defeatism
out there inside 21st century Christendom .

Christendom holds and presents 4 major views of the future
of the Christian Church and the Human Race.

These 4 views are:
(1) Postmillennialism
(2) Amillennialism
(3) Premillennialism
(4) Dispensationalism

Of the 4 views only Postmillennialism presents an optimistic
bright cheerful victorious future for the Christian Church and
the Human Race here on Earth before the Lord returns.

This Post is presenting some general thoughts on
Postmillennialism and Postmillennialism's optimistic view of
the future.

Long live Christian optimism.

Large swaths of the Christian Church today are awash in
Gloom and Doom and in Defeatism passed off as being
spiritual, when in fact the Bible teaches that the Christian
Church will be victorious. I will build my Church, said the
Lord Jesus, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.
Go and make disciples of all the nations, said the Lord
Jesus, because I have now been given all authority both
in Heaven and on Earth.

It is sad indeed that Amillennialism, Premillennialism, and
Dispensationalism repudiates the gospel victory theme of
the Bible in their modern eschatological speculations and
replaces this victory theme with a defeatist scheme of the
future of the Christian Church and Human race. This
paralyzes Christian cultural efforts and eliminates the
practical significance from the Christian worldview, and
gives Christians a sinful comfort in lethargy because all
this Defeatism and Doom and Gloom tends to justify
social and cultural irresponsibility. "Why polish brass
on a sinking ship", ask many misinformed Christians.

Here is an excellent definition of Postmillennialism:

"Postmillennialism holds that the Lord Jesus Christ established
His kingdom on earth through His preaching and redemptive
work in the first century and that He equips His church with the
gospel, empowers her by the Holy Spirit, and charges her with
the Great Commission to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism
expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be
saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a
time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith,
righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the
affairs of men and nations. After an extensive era of such
conditions the Lord will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously,
to end history with the general resurrection and the final
Judgment after which the eternal order follows."
___ Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry.

Christianity is slowly Christianizing the world.

Christianity started small in numbers. There was a time in the 1st century
at the very beginning of Christianity when the number of Christians in the
world was less than 12. Today, some 2000 years later, there is some 2.3
billion Christians in the world. We have a name for this. We call it progress.

America today has over 1300 Evangelical mega-churches with weekly
attendance of over 2000. The Roman Catholics have over 3000 churches
with a weekly attendance of over 2000. This is Christian progress in the world.

Christianity is growing like wildfire in the Global South for example in Africa.
There is a huge Christian Church in China. House Church.
.Christianity is huge in South Korea and in South America and Central America.
The American Christian Church is still a vibrant force in the World. All this is
Christian progress in the world.

■ The Lord Jesus "shall have dominion from sea to sea" Psalm 72:8
■ "The whole Earth will be filled with His glory." Psalm 72:19
■ "All the nations will call Him blessed." Psalm 72:17
■ The Lord Jesus really meant it, when He commanded His Christian
Church to "go and make disciples of all the nations." Matthew 28:19

"As of the year 2015, Christianity has more than 2.3 billion adherents,
out of about 7.5 billion people. The faith represents one-third of the
world's population and is the largest religion in the world, with the three
largest groups being the Catholic Church, Protestantism, and
the Eastern Orthodox Church."__wikipedia

At the end of human history , , ,
The Book Of Revelation says that there is a great multitude of the saved
from every nation, tribe, people and language and they are so numerous
that no one can count them.

"After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one
could count from every nation, tribe, people, and language, standing
before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white
robes . . .and they cried out . . . Salvation belongs to our God who sits
on the throne and to the Lamb." Revelation 7:9-10

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The Lord Jesus. He Shall Have Dominion. Victory!

____________

Miscellaneous Points:

* I am a Bible believing orthodox Postmillennialist.

* I am NOT a Full Preterist.

* Full Preterism is False.

* FYI, I am a Bible believing Protestant {Baptist.}

* I posted that up there only as "food for thought."

* I do NOT argue Christian Eschatology in threads.

* I look forward to reading some of the responses to the Opening Post.

God Bless.

JAG

 

[JLB]

The subject is Christian Eschatology.
Eschatology is about the future of Humanity.
There are 4 different major views of Christian Eschatology {listed below}.
Postmillennialism is the only one of the 4 that predicts a bright cheerful future
here on this Earth before human history ends.

So the question is raised:

What does the future hold for the Christian Church and the Human Race
here on planet Earth? The answer is the Human Race has a magnificent
optimistic bright cheerful future.

The world will eventually become a Christian world. This will require many
millenniums yet to come as human history rolls forward. This does not
mean that every single person on Earth will become a Christian, rather
it means that the human race, as a race, will be saved and the vast
overwhelming majority of human beings will, in the far off future,
become Christian.

The Lord Jesus' Great Commission To His Christian Church is about
His Church Christianizing the world:

The Lord Jesus told His disciples at the end of Matthew's gospel chapter
28 to go and make disciples of all the nations. His disciples needed power
to accomplish this great task. The Lord Jesus told them what this power
was. He said "all authority in Heaven and on Earth has been given to me,
therefore go and make disciples of all nations . . . teaching them to obey
all that I have commanded you." Matthew 28:18-20

The Lord Jesus was serious when He gave His Christian Church her Great
Commission. His Great Commission is a command and not a suggestion.

Therefore His Great Commission to go and make disciples of all the nations
will be successfully accomplished before He returns to Earth to end human
history -- the world will eventually become Christian. "He must reign until
He has put all his enemies under His feet." 1 Cor. 15:25
"For He (God) has put everything under His feet." 1 Cor. 15:27

The Lord Jesus right NOW is reigning as King over this entire world and He is
gradually incrementally Christianizing the entire world. Again, how long will this
take? It will take many many millenniums yet to unfold, but He will be victorious.
We must be patient. This is going to take a very long time.

Meanwhile . .

Unfortunately there is a lot of Doom and Gloom and Defeatism
out there inside 21st century Christendom .

Christendom holds and presents 4 major views of the future
of the Christian Church and the Human Race.

These 4 views are:
(1) Postmillennialism
(2) Amillennialism
(3) Premillennialism
(4) Dispensationalism



_________

The Lord Jesus. He Shall Have Dominion. Victory!

____________

Miscellaneous Points:

* I am a Bible believing orthodox Postmillennialist.

* I am NOT a Full Preterist.

* Full Preterism is False.

* FYI, I am a Bible believing Protestant {Baptist.}

* I posted that up there only as "food for thought."

* I do NOT argue Christian Eschatology in threads.

* I look forward to reading some of the responses to the Opening Post.

God Bless.

JAG

I can tell you this, those who are faithful Christians who walk in obedience to Christ and His Spirit, indeed have a wonderful future after He returns and gathers His people at the resurrection and rapture, in which he destroys the wicked.


I really don’t know about —

• Postmillennialism
• Amillennialism
• Premillennialism
• Dispensationalism

The scriptures teach us the truth about eschatology.


Here are a few quotes from Jesus and His Apostles —

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:3-14

• For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.
• And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
• And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.
• All these are the beginning of sorrows.
• “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
• And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.
• Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.
• And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.
• But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

again


But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:
For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away.
2 Timothy 3:1-5

• For men will be lovers of themselves,
• lovers of money,
• boasters,
• proud,
• blasphemers,
• disobedient to parents,
• unthankful,
• unholy,
• unloving,
• unforgiving,
• slanderers,
• without self-control,
• brutal,
• despisers of good,
• traitors,
• headstrong,
• haughty,
• lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
• having a form of godliness but denying its power.

JLB

 

[JAG ..]

For anyone interested in studying Postmillennialism , , ,

Here below is a list of distinguished Postmillennialists:
Origen
Eusebius
Athanasius
Augustine
Daniel Whitby
Isaac Watts
The Wesley Brothers
Jonathan Edwards
William Carey
Robert Haldane
Archibald Alexander
A.A. Hodge
Charles Hodge
Albert Barnes
David Brown
Patrick Fairbairn
Richard C. Trench
J.A. Alexander
J.H. Thornwell
Robert L. Dabney
William G.T. Shedd
Augustus H. Strong
H.C.G. Moule
B.B. Warfield
O.T. Allis
J. Gresham Machen
John Murray
Loraine Boettner
J. Marcellus Kik
Greg L. Bahnsen
David Chilton
Rousas J. Rushdoony
_____________

Contemporary Postmillennialist Writers:
Reuben Alvarado
Curtis Crenshaw
John Jefferson Davis
Gary DeMar
J. Ligon Duncan lll
John R. deWitt
Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
George Grant
Grover E. Gunn
Stephen J. Hayhow
Erroll Hulse
Douglas Kelly
Francis Nigel Lee
Peter J. Leithart
Donald Macleod
Keith A. Mathison
Iain Murray
Gary North
Stephen C. Perks
Willard Ramsey
Andrew Sandlin
Steve Schlissel
Norman Shepherd
R.C. Sproul
Ray R. Sutton
Kenneth G. Talbot
Jack Van Deventer
James West
Douglas Wilson
Colin Wright
Source:
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr,
pages 106-107

________


"Postmillennialism holds that the Lord Jesus Christ established
His kingdom on earth through His preaching and redemptive
work in the first century and that He equips His church with the
gospel, empowers her by the Holy Spirit, and charges her with
the Great Commission to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism
expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be
saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a
time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith,
righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the
affairs of men and nations. After an extensive era of such
conditions the Lord will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously,
to end history with the general resurrection and the final
Judgment after which the eternal order follows."
___ Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry.


``

 

[JAG ..]

I can tell you this, those who are faithful Christians who walk in obedience to Christ and His Spirit, indeed have a wonderful future after He returns and gathers His people at the resurrection and rapture, in which he destroys the wicked.


I really don’t know about —

• Postmillennialism
• Amillennialism
• Premillennialism
• Dispensationalism

The scriptures teach us the truth about eschatology.


Here are a few quotes from Jesus and His Apostles —

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:3-14

• For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.
• And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
• And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.
• All these are the beginning of sorrows.
• “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
• And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.
• Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.
• And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.
• But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

again


But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:
For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away.
2 Timothy 3:1-5

• For men will be lovers of themselves,
• lovers of money,
• boasters,
• proud,
• blasphemers,
• disobedient to parents,
• unthankful,
• unholy,
• unloving,
• unforgiving,
• slanderers,
• without self-control,
• brutal,
• despisers of good,
• traitors,
• headstrong,
• haughty,
• lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
• having a form of godliness but denying its power.

JLB

JLB,
Thank you for your contribution.
And thanks for reading my Opening Post.

``

 

[JAG ..]

Thanks to all who read my Opening Post and for your comments.

I will mention one other very good work in support of Postmillennialism.

The Millennium
by Dr. Loraine Boettner {FYI, the late Dr. Boettner was a male}
over 400 pages.
This work refutes Amillennialism, Premillennialism, and Dispensationalism,
then vigorously defends Postmillennialism.

This work is very popular as is Dr. Boettner's "Roman Catholicism" which
is a solid refutation of the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church.


``

 

[Who Me]

Every attempt to formulate how Jesus will return involves illogicalities and contradictions so much so that I am confident that just as his first appearance caught the Jewish world by surprise so his second coming will also catch us by surprise as it won't fit any of our nice vanished theories.

In the end only one thing matters.

Jesus will Come Again..



Maranatha.

 

[jasonc]

albert barnes is post mill? I read his commentary on revelation 20 and he came across as amil as i am.

r.c. sproul is post mil. he has passed and was a Calvinist but I havent heard him say that. I will look for anything on that.

gentry is known for being a partial preterist.

 

[JAG ..]

Every attempt to formulate how Jesus will return involves illogicalities and contradictions so much so that I am confident that just as his first appearance caught the Jewish world by surprise so his second coming will also catch us by surprise as it won't fit any of our nice vanished theories.

In the end only one thing matters.

Jesus will Come Again..



Maranatha.

"Every attempt to formulate how Jesus will return involves
illogicalities and contradictions so much so that I am confident
that just as his first appearance caught the Jewish world by
surprise so his second coming will also catch us by surprise
as it won't fit any of our nice vanished theories.

In the end only one thing matters.

Jesus will Come Again..

Maranatha."___Who Me

May the good Lord Bless and keep you my friend.
And thanks for taking a peek at my Opening Post.
JAG

 

[for_his_glory]

We do not enter the Millennial Kingdom here on earth in our natural bodies, but in new glorified bodies, 1 Corinthians 15:51-54. When Christ returns in the air on the last day we are then caught up to meet Him in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord as He has made us unto our God kings and priests and we shall reign on the earth as we rule with Him over the nations as His enemies have become His footstool in the end of days, John 5:28, 29; 6:40; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18; Rev 5:10; Psalms 110:1-4; Hebrews 10:12, 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21 Jesus descends down from heaven with His army of the host (angels) of heaven as while remaining in the air He sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather His own to Him. He will destroy the beast and false prophet casting them alive into the lake of fire, Rev 19:15, 16. The remnant in Rev 19:21 are the world leaders of every nation on the earth that have followed after the beast that rules their government. The remnant will be slain by the very words Jesus speaks of their damnation as the fowls will be filled with their flesh and at that time Satan will be chained and bound so he can not interfere with the ungodly people that are still alive on earth that become the footstool of Christ. Then the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ and He shall reign for ever and the saints will begin to rule over the nations here on earth, Rev 11:15; 5:10; 20:1-3; Matthew 5:5.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after he is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9. The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20 and Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.

(IMO 1000 years is a figurative number, not a literal number. It is figurative like the numbering in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1 Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2 Peter 3:8.)

John 5:28, 29; Rev 20:11-15, now comes the Great White throne judgment as the books are opened with one of them being the Lamb's book of life where all the saints of God have their names written as they have part of the first resurrection of eternal life on such the second death hath no power, Rev 20:6; 1 Corinthians 15:54-57. The other book is opened being the book of damnation where the enemies of God that were killed while trying to destroy the camp of the saints are now joined with those enemies of Christ that were also raised from their graves and are reserved, 2 Peter 2:9, as now since they were condemned and judged will be cast into the lake of fire. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. While the saints are with Jesus the earth will be renewed and the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven, Rev 21.

Matthew 24:22 these days are shortened for a time that only God holds back or extends to allow His purpose for the last one to repent and turn back to Him before Christ returns, Rev 19, as God alone knows their name. Only God can shorten days like He did with Hezekiah as He caused the sundial to go backwards ten degrees, Isaiah 38:8, which was possibly five hours and again in Joshua 10:12-14 God extended the daylight for Joshua to defeat the Amorites.

Christ returns on the last day at the seventh trumpet and on that day His Bride being the collective body of believers through faith in Christ and sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption will be caught up to Him. Both asleep in their grave and those who are alive at His coming will then be kept safe on that day while Christ fights the final battle casting the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and slaying all those nations (people) who come out to fight against Him.
(John 5:25-30; 6:40; Ephesians 1:3-14;1 Corinthians 15:51-57; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19; Zechariah 14:1-6; Luke 21:20-22)

 

[for_his_glory]

Jesus gave us what to watch for explicitly before He returns on the last day, but yet no one knows the day or the hour of His return as we need to be prepared for His return.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[JLB]

For anyone interested in studying Postmillennialism , , ,

Here below is a list of distinguished Postmillennialists:
Origen
Eusebius
Athanasius
Augustine
Daniel Whitby
Isaac Watts
The Wesley Brothers
Jonathan Edwards
William Carey
Robert Haldane
Archibald Alexander
A.A. Hodge
Charles Hodge
Albert Barnes
David Brown
Patrick Fairbairn
Richard C. Trench
J.A. Alexander
J.H. Thornwell
Robert L. Dabney
William G.T. Shedd
Augustus H. Strong
H.C.G. Moule
B.B. Warfield
O.T. Allis
J. Gresham Machen
John Murray
Loraine Boettner
J. Marcellus Kik
Greg L. Bahnsen
David Chilton
Rousas J. Rushdoony
_____________

Contemporary Postmillennialist Writers:
Reuben Alvarado
Curtis Crenshaw
John Jefferson Davis
Gary DeMar
J. Ligon Duncan lll
John R. deWitt
Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
George Grant
Grover E. Gunn
Stephen J. Hayhow
Erroll Hulse
Douglas Kelly
Francis Nigel Lee
Peter J. Leithart
Donald Macleod
Keith A. Mathison
Iain Murray
Gary North
Stephen C. Perks
Willard Ramsey
Andrew Sandlin
Steve Schlissel
Norman Shepherd
R.C. Sproul
Ray R. Sutton
Kenneth G. Talbot
Jack Van Deventer
James West
Douglas Wilson
Colin Wright
Source:
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr,
pages 106-107

________


"Postmillennialism holds that the Lord Jesus Christ established
His kingdom on earth through His preaching and redemptive
work in the first century and that He equips His church with the
gospel, empowers her by the Holy Spirit, and charges her with
the Great Commission to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism
expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be
saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a
time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith,
righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the
affairs of men and nations. After an extensive era of such
conditions the Lord will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously,
to end history with the general resurrection and the final
Judgment after which the eternal order follows."
___ Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry.


``

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
1 Timothy 4:1

 

[JAG ..]

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
1 Timothy 4:1

Your post is fascinating.
You quoted my entire post below and then quoted 1 Timothy 4:1
without any other comment or explanation.

"Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart
from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
1 Timothy 4:1"___quoted by JLB

Question: Are you suggesting that list of Christian Biblical scholars
eg The Wesley Brothers and Jonathan Edwards and all the rest in that
long list of Christian scholars are preaching doctrines of demons?

/just curious

JAG Wrote:
For anyone interested in studying Postmillennialism , , ,

Here below is a list of distinguished Postmillennialists:
Origen
Eusebius
Athanasius
Augustine
Daniel Whitby
Isaac Watts
The Wesley Brothers
Jonathan Edwards
William Carey
Robert Haldane
Archibald Alexander
A.A. Hodge
Charles Hodge
Albert Barnes
David Brown
Patrick Fairbairn
Richard C. Trench
J.A. Alexander
J.H. Thornwell
Robert L. Dabney
William G.T. Shedd
Augustus H. Strong
H.C.G. Moule
B.B. Warfield
O.T. Allis
J. Gresham Machen
John Murray
Loraine Boettner
J. Marcellus Kik
Greg L. Bahnsen
David Chilton
Rousas J. Rushdoony
_____________

Contemporary Postmillennialist Writers:
Reuben Alvarado
Curtis Crenshaw
John Jefferson Davis
Gary DeMar
J. Ligon Duncan lll
John R. deWitt
Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
George Grant
Grover E. Gunn
Stephen J. Hayhow
Erroll Hulse
Douglas Kelly
Francis Nigel Lee
Peter J. Leithart
Donald Macleod
Keith A. Mathison
Iain Murray
Gary North
Stephen C. Perks
Willard Ramsey
Andrew Sandlin
Steve Schlissel
Norman Shepherd
R.C. Sproul
Ray R. Sutton
Kenneth G. Talbot
Jack Van Deventer
James West
Douglas Wilson
Colin Wright
Source:
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr,
pages 106-107

________

"Postmillennialism holds that the Lord Jesus Christ established
His kingdom on earth through His preaching and redemptive
work in the first century and that He equips His church with the
gospel, empowers her by the Holy Spirit, and charges her with
the Great Commission to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism
expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be
saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a
time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith,
righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the
affairs of men and nations. After an extensive era of such
conditions the Lord will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously,
to end history with the general resurrection and the final
Judgment after which the eternal order follows."
___ Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry.
End quote

 

[JAG ..]

We do not enter the Millennial Kingdom here on earth in our natural bodies, but in new glorified bodies, 1 Corinthians 15:51-54. When Christ returns in the air on the last day we are then caught up to meet Him in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord as He has made us unto our God kings and priests and we shall reign on the earth as we rule with Him over the nations as His enemies have become His footstool in the end of days, John 5:28, 29; 6:40; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18; Rev 5:10; Psalms 110:1-4; Hebrews 10:12, 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21 Jesus descends down from heaven with His army of the host (angels) of heaven as while remaining in the air He sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather His own to Him. He will destroy the beast and false prophet casting them alive into the lake of fire, Rev 19:15, 16. The remnant in Rev 19:21 are the world leaders of every nation on the earth that have followed after the beast that rules their government. The remnant will be slain by the very words Jesus speaks of their damnation as the fowls will be filled with their flesh and at that time Satan will be chained and bound so he can not interfere with the ungodly people that are still alive on earth that become the footstool of Christ. Then the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ and He shall reign for ever and the saints will begin to rule over the nations here on earth, Rev 11:15; 5:10; 20:1-3; Matthew 5:5.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after he is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9. The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20 and Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.

(IMO 1000 years is a figurative number, not a literal number. It is figurative like the numbering in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1 Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2 Peter 3:8.)

John 5:28, 29; Rev 20:11-15, now comes the Great White throne judgment as the books are opened with one of them being the Lamb's book of life where all the saints of God have their names written as they have part of the first resurrection of eternal life on such the second death hath no power, Rev 20:6; 1 Corinthians 15:54-57. The other book is opened being the book of damnation where the enemies of God that were killed while trying to destroy the camp of the saints are now joined with those enemies of Christ that were also raised from their graves and are reserved, 2 Peter 2:9, as now since they were condemned and judged will be cast into the lake of fire. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. While the saints are with Jesus the earth will be renewed and the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven, Rev 21.

Matthew 24:22 these days are shortened for a time that only God holds back or extends to allow His purpose for the last one to repent and turn back to Him before Christ returns, Rev 19, as God alone knows their name. Only God can shorten days like He did with Hezekiah as He caused the sundial to go backwards ten degrees, Isaiah 38:8, which was possibly five hours and again in Joshua 10:12-14 God extended the daylight for Joshua to defeat the Amorites.

Christ returns on the last day at the seventh trumpet and on that day His Bride being the collective body of believers through faith in Christ and sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption will be caught up to Him. Both asleep in their grave and those who are alive at His coming will then be kept safe on that day while Christ fights the final battle casting the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and slaying all those nations (people) who come out to fight against Him.
(John 5:25-30; 6:40; Ephesians 1:3-14;1 Corinthians 15:51-57; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19; Zechariah 14:1-6; Luke 21:20-22)

FHG, thanks for your comments.

 

[JLB]

Question: Are you suggesting that list of Christian Biblical scholars
eg The Wesley Brothers and Jonathan Edwards and all the rest in that
long list of Christian scholars are preaching doctrines of demons?

/just curious

Im suggesting that the teachings of man can certainly be inspired by demons.


You have quite a list of scholars you learn from.


I would encourage you to learn from the scriptures.




JLB

 

[JLB]

Postmillennialism
expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be
saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a
time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith,
righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the
affairs of men and nations. After an extensive era of such
conditions the Lord will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously,
to end history with the general resurrection and the final
Judgment after which the eternal order follows."
___ Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry.
End quote

The scriptures teach another message as I quoted them for you and all to examine.


There will be many saved by a great outpouring of His Spirit in the last days, but as far as peace and prosperity “prevailing”, the scriptures I list in my first post show us a different perspective.


And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:4-21


JLB

 

[JAG ..]

Im suggesting that the teachings of man can certainly be inspired by demons.


You have quite a list of scholars you learn from.


I would encourage you to learn from the scriptures.




JLB

Im suggesting that the teachings of man can certainly be inspired by demons.


You have quite a list of scholars you learn from.


I would encourage you to learn from the scriptures.

JLB

"Im suggesting that the teachings of man can certainly be inspired by demons."___JLB

But you quoted my list of born-again Christian scholars, your brothers-in-Christ
and you then quoted , , , ,

"Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart
from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
1 Timothy 4:1"___quoted by JLB

, , , without any explanatory comments clearly suggesting that these born-again
Christian scholars, your brothers-in-Christ, are teaching doctrines of demons.
All the men down there are Postmillennialists. Do you recognize any of those names?
How about Augustus H. Strong {Strong's Concordance} The Wesley Brothers. Jonathan
Edwards one of the most Godly men who ever lived. You don't see any problem with
suggesting that your brothers-in-Christ are teaching doctrines of demons?

JAG Wrote:
Here below is a list of distinguished Postmillennialists:
Origen
Eusebius
Athanasius
Augustine
Daniel Whitby
Isaac Watts
The Wesley Brothers
Jonathan Edwards
William Carey
Robert Haldane
Archibald Alexander
A.A. Hodge
Charles Hodge
Albert Barnes
David Brown
Patrick Fairbairn
Richard C. Trench
J.A. Alexander
J.H. Thornwell
Robert L. Dabney
William G.T. Shedd
Augustus H. Strong
H.C.G. Moule
B.B. Warfield
O.T. Allis
J. Gresham Machen
John Murray
Loraine Boettner
J. Marcellus Kik
Greg L. Bahnsen
David Chilton
Rousas J. Rushdoony
_____________

Contemporary Postmillennialist Writers:
Reuben Alvarado
Curtis Crenshaw
John Jefferson Davis
Gary DeMar
J. Ligon Duncan lll
John R. deWitt
Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
George Grant
Grover E. Gunn
Stephen J. Hayhow
Erroll Hulse
Douglas Kelly
Francis Nigel Lee
Peter J. Leithart
Donald Macleod
Keith A. Mathison
Iain Murray
Gary North
Stephen C. Perks
Willard Ramsey
Andrew Sandlin
Steve Schlissel
Norman Shepherd
R.C. Sproul
Ray R. Sutton
Kenneth G. Talbot
Jack Van Deventer
James West
Douglas Wilson
Colin Wright
Source:
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr,
pages 106-107

________

"You have quite a list of scholars you learn from.
I would encourage you to learn from the scriptures."___JLB

"I would encourage you to learn from the scriptures"___JLB

Everybody says that to those who disagree with them on what the
Bible teaches.

Postmillennialism
Amillennialism
Premillennialism
Dispensationalism

There are 4 different views of Christian Eschatology and all
the Christians who hold those 4 views sincerely believe that
they are learning from the Scriptures. They are all Bible believing
Christians. They all are honest and sincere in their beliefs and they
all appeal to the Holy Bible for support for their beliefs. They all
would say to you and to everybody else: "I encourage you to learn
from the Scriptures."

JAG

 

[JLB]

But you quoted my list of born-again Christian scholars, your brothers-in-Christ

I don’t know any of those men.

I don’t know the life they lived.

I know Christ, and His teaching.

His teaching doesn’t agree with Postmillennialism.


Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9



JLB

 

[Son of Israel]

Your post is fascinating.
You quoted my entire post below and then quoted 1 Timothy 4:1
without any other comment or explanation.

"Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart
from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
1 Timothy 4:1"___quoted by JLB

Question: Are you suggesting that list of Christian Biblical scholars
eg The Wesley Brothers and Jonathan Edwards and all the rest in that
long list of Christian scholars are preaching doctrines of demons?

/just curious

JAG Wrote:
For anyone interested in studying Postmillennialism , , ,

Here below is a list of distinguished Postmillennialists:
Origen
Eusebius
Athanasius
Augustine
Daniel Whitby
Isaac Watts
The Wesley Brothers
Jonathan Edwards
William Carey
Robert Haldane
Archibald Alexander
A.A. Hodge
Charles Hodge
Albert Barnes
David Brown
Patrick Fairbairn
Richard C. Trench
J.A. Alexander
J.H. Thornwell
Robert L. Dabney
William G.T. Shedd
Augustus H. Strong
H.C.G. Moule
B.B. Warfield
O.T. Allis
J. Gresham Machen
John Murray
Loraine Boettner
J. Marcellus Kik
Greg L. Bahnsen
David Chilton
Rousas J. Rushdoony
_____________

Contemporary Postmillennialist Writers:
Reuben Alvarado
Curtis Crenshaw
John Jefferson Davis
Gary DeMar
J. Ligon Duncan lll
John R. deWitt
Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
George Grant
Grover E. Gunn
Stephen J. Hayhow
Erroll Hulse
Douglas Kelly
Francis Nigel Lee
Peter J. Leithart
Donald Macleod
Keith A. Mathison
Iain Murray
Gary North
Stephen C. Perks
Willard Ramsey
Andrew Sandlin
Steve Schlissel
Norman Shepherd
R.C. Sproul
Ray R. Sutton
Kenneth G. Talbot
Jack Van Deventer
James West
Douglas Wilson
Colin Wright
Source:
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr,
pages 106-107

________

"Postmillennialism holds that the Lord Jesus Christ established
His kingdom on earth through His preaching and redemptive
work in the first century and that He equips His church with the
gospel, empowers her by the Holy Spirit, and charges her with
the Great Commission to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism
expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be
saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a
time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith,
righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the
affairs of men and nations. After an extensive era of such
conditions the Lord will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously,
to end history with the general resurrection and the final
Judgment after which the eternal order follows."
___ Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry.
End quote

Yes, they most assuredly are in deep error. They preach "futurism" aka "dispensationalism".

We who preach the Word of God don't speak of "tomorrow" but we preach "Now-ism" to all who will receive Christ NOW

Mat 6:34 >>>Take therefore no thought for the morrow:<<< for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Rom 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that NOW it is high time to awake out of sleep: for NOW is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

(2Co 6:2) (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, NOW is the accepted time; behold, NOW is the day of salvation.)

Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

All scriptures agree with this. If some so called "scholar" thinks otherwise, he is wrong.

1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

Those "scholars" attempt to push spiritual things of the New Covenant into a carnal worldly fulfillment. They are these;

1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co_3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.