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Prayer Handkerchiefs

Lewis

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Acts 19:11-12 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
11And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
12So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
What do you guy's think about, the people on TV, who offer to send you these handkerchiefs, for healing, do you think it is legit ? And do you believe in it ?
Pay attention to verse 11. Now some people think that this died with the apostles, I do not. These prayed over handkerchiefs, along with your faith, I believe can do the trick. I also hear people say that people like Benny Hinn and others are fake, and that they set up people to say that they are healed. I choose not to believe this. Because God is the one performing the miracles. He is just working through man. So I would really like to hear what you guy's think about this.
 
Lewis W said:
Acts 19:11-12 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
11And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
12So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
What do you guy's think about, the people on TV, who offer to send you these handkerchiefs, for healing, do you think it is legit ? And do you believe in it ?
Pay attention to verse 11. Now some people think that this died with the apostles, I do not. These prayed over handkerchiefs, along with your faith, I believe can do the trick. I also hear people say that people like Benny Hinn and others are fake, and that they set up people to say that they are healed. I choose not to believe this. Because God is the one performing the miracles. He is just working through man. So I would really like to hear what you guy's think about this.
Send me your money and I will give you a cheap handkerchief that I proclaim that I prayed over for your ailment, and if you don't get healed it is because of your lack of faith! :smt074

Sorry but I think that it is just another racket to extort money from those who believe anything.
 
Solo said:
Send me your money and I will give you a cheap handkerchief that I proclaim that I prayed over for your ailment, and if you don't get healed it is because of your lack of faith!

Sorry but I think that it is just another racket to extort money from those who believe anything.

Well as I have stated else where. My net work of support consists of those from all denominations. And one of those couples happen to be among those who support Benny Hinn financially. And they are far from being among those who believe anything.

For example they would call your above post a lie right out the pit of hell. And this couple demonstrate Christian qualities that would put many to shame.

It is those qualities that I observed that forced me to re-evaluate some of my thoughts about this.

Yet... they have had a Grandson (in his early twenties) die of cancer, in-spite of the fact that they believed God would heal him.

Solo while I agree with what you have to say in some of your posts, you appear to have lived in some kind of a shell. I think you would do well by venturing out of it occasionally. It might just help you to know something about that of which you speak.
 
Lewis W said:
Acts 19:11-12 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
11And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
12So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
What do you guy's think about, the people on TV, who offer to send you these handkerchiefs, for healing, do you think it is legit ? And do you believe in it ?
Pay attention to verse 11. Now some people think that this died with the apostles, I do not. These prayed over handkerchiefs, along with your faith, I believe can do the trick. I also hear people say that people like Benny Hinn and others are fake, and that they set up people to say that they are healed. I choose not to believe this. Because God is the one performing the miracles. He is just working through man. So I would really like to hear what you guy's think about this.

Make sure he did not sneeze into it. You may catch a cold.
 
I do not think God just took away his healing in anyway he chooses too. Don't you think its a possibility that God can and does work through a person to heal someone. You cannot limit God he can and does what he will, trying to limit his power is like trying to put him in a box. I agree some of these people are fakes , but I never rule out that God can use his power through another to heal if he chooses to.



Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God.
 
In verse 11, it says, ( And God Wrought special miracles by the Hands of Paul.
And the Bible says, that God is the same today and yesterday.
Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not.
Now it is hard to believe that all of this, is fake stuff that you see on TV.
I feel that Benny Hinn, is for real. You have many men and women of God who do not want to fake out the public. Now on the other hand you do have some fakes. But my thing is, if those handkerchiefs worked in Paul's day, why can't they work today. By certain people that God has anointed to work through. Which brings me to 1 Corinthians 12: 8-10.
Corinthians 12:8-10 (King James Version)

8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
I am not trying to get a argument going here, I just letting out my view.
 
Windozer said:
Solo said:
Send me your money and I will give you a cheap handkerchief that I proclaim that I prayed over for your ailment, and if you don't get healed it is because of your lack of faith!

Sorry but I think that it is just another racket to extort money from those who believe anything.

Well as I have stated else where. My net work of support consists of those from all denominations. And one of those couples happen to be among those who support Benny Hinn financially. And they are far from being among those who believe anything.

For example they would call your above post a lie right out the pit of hell. And this couple demonstrate Christian qualities that would put many to shame.

It is those qualities that I observed that forced me to re-evaluate some of my thoughts about this.

Yet... they have had a Grandson (in his early twenties) die of cancer, in-spite of the fact that they believed God would heal him.

Solo while I agree with what you have to say in some of your posts, you appear to have lived in some kind of a shell. I think you would do well by venturing out of it occasionally. It might just help you to know something about that of which you speak.
If Benny Hinn and his like were into healing, he would be in the hospitals and medical facilities doing as a work of God and not a theatrical performance to extort finances from the unknowing.

Many Jehovah Witnesses exhibit qualities that put many Christians to shame but they are still in error as to who Jesus Christ is.

The shell I live in exists in and between the books of Genesis and Revelation, and prayer handkerchiefs are smoke and mirrors to supplement the till; no more and no less.
 
Lewis said:
But my thing is, if those handkerchiefs worked in Paul's day, why can't they work today. By certain people that God has anointed to work through. Which brings me to 1 Corinthians 12: 8-10.

While that has not been one of my personal experiences Lewis. I certainly do not rule it out. I have been healed by the spirit many times, but not directly through another human being. I guess what I am saying is that I have learned that God can choose to heal anyone he chooses in what ever way he chooses.
 
Solo said:
The shell I live in exists in and between the books of Genesis and Revelation,

I am well aware of that Solo. It does not take much for one to see that. It is where the rubber hits the road that you appear to be lacking.
 
Windozer said:
Solo said:
The shell I live in exists in and between the books of Genesis and Revelation,

I am well aware of that Solo. It does not take much for one to see that. It is where the rubber hits the road that you appear to be lacking.
Your perception of lacking comes from your inability to see the entire truth of the Word of God in rendering a truthful discernment of false doctrine and false teachings. Many liberal factions within Christendom today falter at the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ because of the three areas of desire within a human; the pride of life, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes. I suspect that one of these three have invaded your space enough to throw your understanding off just enough to become an accuser of the brethren as opposed to being a reprover of the enemy. Good luck at clearing that error up.
 
Are not these things promised to all who beleive , some will get one gift while others will recive others gifts , but all are given by God. So does anyone believe or can you show proof that now in todays world these same gifts are no longer given. ?


1 Corinthians 12:8-10

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:



Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God.
 
Solo said:
Your perception of lacking comes from your inability to see the entire truth of the Word of God in rendering a truthful discernment of false doctrine and false teachings.

Well Solo (assuming that you might be right which I am not buying.) I turn your own statement back to you.

You said:
Good luck at clearing that error up.
 
Windozer said:
Solo said:
Your perception of lacking comes from your inability to see the entire truth of the Word of God in rendering a truthful discernment of false doctrine and false teachings.

Well Solo (assuming that you might be right) which I am not buying. I turn your own statement back to you.

You said:
Good luck at clearing that error up.
Not very original dozer! :D
 
Solo said:
Not very original dozer!

ROFL Something made you think I aspire to be original Solo?

I hope I have better things to think about.
 
Oh Lewis, you got my attention now.

My dad and I watched HBO's America Undercover: A Question of Miracles when it first aired, April, 2001, Easter Sunday. They exposed him for what he is. He had an older gentleman on stage who had very poor eyesight. He "healed' him and threw the man's glasses down on the floor. The glasses got stepped on and crushed in the reveling of this so-called healing. Afterwards, when the man got home, he couldn't see again (remember, no glasses, they got crushed). He tripped over some furniture and fractured some bones.

People were asked to fill out some cards with info about themselves. They were excorted to their seats. Unknown to them was the fact that the cards were labeled with seat numbers. Benny proceded to "randomly" choose people in the audience and started to tell them things about them he supposedly couldn't habe known. No one was aware that he was wearing an earpiece and his wife was reading the info on the cards to him!

The man has settled three wrongful death suits out of court. He has bodyguards! He has made one false claim after another and wants to know why he is being targeted as a fruad? Yikes!

The heavyweight boxer Evander Holyfield, banned from boxing because of a heart condition, went to a Benny Hinn crusade in Philadelphia, had Hinn lay hands on him, and gave Hinn a check for $265,000 after he was told he was healed. In fact, he passed his next examination by the boxing commission, but later his doctors said he never had a heart condition in the first place – he had been misdiagnosed.
http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/archives/theheretic.html
 
Windozer said:
Solo said:
The shell I live in exists in and between the books of Genesis and Revelation,

I am well aware of that Solo. It does not take much for one to see that. It is where the rubber hits the road that you appear to be lacking.
Amen.
 
Now I expect Lyric's Dad and Windozer to pray for me since I am a brother that is lacking, and they being more spiritual have a command to follow in such a case.

It is better that they pray than to give money to the Benny Hinn show for a hanky. :-?

1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5 For every man shall bear his own burden. 6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. 10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Galatians 6:1-10
 
Lewis,

I will be honest with you. I do not believe Benny Hinn is authentic. I have heard so much of what he says exposed to be false, and contradictory to scripture. I didn't even know about the television report that Vic is speaking of.

As far as the handkerchief thing. God has given us all the power to come before His throne and ask for what we need, but we are to ask that which is His will. It is not always His will to heal. I do not think that people should be asking for any donations associated with prayer, or anointed handkerchiefs, or the like. If you need prayer for a healing, then ask us to pray with you...or your family...or your minister, but you do not need to put money out for such things. I do not believe Paul, or more importantly, Christ, would condone such behaviour from those who are claiming to be God's children. The Lord bless you.
 
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