Pregnant woman fired for not marrying fiance

[Deborah13]

16 He said to her, "Go,call your husband and come here." 17 The woman answered and said, "I have no husband."Jesus said to her, "You have correctly said, 'I have no husband '; 18 for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; this you have said truly." (John 4:16-18 NASB)

Even Jesus recognized, along with the woman that simply being 'with' someone does not constitute a marriage. He did not correct her and say, "Oh, no. You're married alright".

We see that even Jesus saw that a commitment to a steady relationship does not constitute marriage in and of itself.

Well, I'm stick my neck out....
If she was married to him the only way that marriage would be terminated would be by death or a divorce. Correct?
Common law marriage can only be terminated by death or divorce. And that is the law in all states.
If one does not get a divorce and they remarry they are a bigamist, a criminal, and can go to jail.
In the Bible there was no written marriage license or decree but there was a written Divorce Decree. Common law marriage is just like that.
Why do you think the Supreme Court upholds that to this very day? Because it is the true law of the land, our Constitution.

 

[Obadiah]

Well, I'm stick my neck out....
If she was married to him the only way that marriage would be terminated would be by death or a divorce. Correct?
Common law marriage can only be terminated by death or divorce. And that is the law in all states.
If one does not get a divorce and they remarry they are a bigamist, a criminal, and can go to jail.
In the Bible there was no written marriage license or decree but there was a written Divorce Decree. Common law marriage is just like that.
Why do you think the Supreme Court upholds that to this very day? Because it is the true law of the land, our Constitution.

Of course there is also the fact that the woman in the scripture here was simply sleeping around, maybe even as a prostitute, and despite the false accusations of some here no one here has suggested simply sleeping with someone constitutes marriage in any way. That entire argument against marriage without a secular license is based on false accusations.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

One thing is for sure, I would never judge, condemn, spread falsities about, and threaten to disfellowship a fellow Christian over a matter of their heart that can only be known by God.

6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us." (2 Thessalonians 3:6 NASB)

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[Jethro Bodine]

Of course there is also the fact that the woman in the scripture here was simply sleeping around, maybe even as a prostitute, and despite the false accusations of some here no one here has suggested simply sleeping with someone constitutes marriage in any way. That entire argument against marriage without a secular license is based on false accusations.

Boo! You don't read very well.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Well, I'm stick my neck out....
If she was married to him the only way that marriage would be terminated would be by death or a divorce. Correct?
Common law marriage can only be terminated by death or divorce. And that is the law in all states.
If one does not get a divorce and they remarry they are a bigamist, a criminal, and can go to jail.
In the Bible there was no written marriage license or decree but there was a written Divorce Decree. Common law marriage is just like that.
Why do you think the Supreme Court upholds that to this very day? Because it is the true law of the land, our Constitution.

Yes, church, let's all join hands with the pagans and do what they do.

They'll be legalizing pot in all fifty states in short time. Don't miss out, church!

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Of course there is also the fact that the woman in the scripture here was simply sleeping around, maybe even as a prostitute, and despite the false accusations of some here no one here has suggested simply sleeping with someone constitutes marriage in any way. That entire argument against marriage without a secular license is based on false accusations.

Uh, no. The passage says she is with someone now.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Well, I'm stick my neck out....
If she was married to him the only way that marriage would be terminated would be by death or a divorce. Correct?

No.

Adultery ends a marriage.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Than what of a gov't that is actively undermining Christianity? According to Acts 5:29 when the authorities instructed the apostles to shut up about Jesus, "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."
Now should ALL gov'ts be resisted, of course not, but when a gov't makes one check their conscience at the door, then it is time to peacefully resist. That is what I am doing.
Matthew 6:24 "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."

Then you should be the very one who gets a marriage license, not joins in with a government that is destroying marriage with their loosening of marriage responsibilities. Your rationale for not getting a marriage license is not consistent with the view of government you have shared here.

 

[Kathi]

 

[Deborah13]

Of course there is also the fact that the woman in the scripture here was simply sleeping around, maybe even as a prostitute, and despite the false accusations of some here no one here has suggested simply sleeping with someone constitutes marriage in any way. That entire argument against marriage without a secular license is based on false accusations.

I think Jesus' response is clear that they were cohabiting but were not married.
I think the misunderstanding that some have it that cohabiting is the only stipulation for being considered a common law marriage but it is not.
Most people are not stupid enough to claim they are married by common law if they really don't mean it.
The consequences of that to one's pocketbook and other property are too great.
One of the stipulation of common law is that you present yourself to the community as husband and wife. That would be things like wearing wedding bands, having a celebration, buying a house as husband and wife, several things.

 

[Deborah13]

No.

Adultery ends a marriage.

Have you read the law? Both the Biblical law and the governmental law. It doesn't appear to me that you have. It appears to me that you have made up your own stipulations for both God's law and governmental laws and wish to impose it on those who are following both laws.
I happen to believe that our Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights was written based on the moral laws found in God's Word. Obviously, you don't.

 

[jasonc]

Yes, but what has that got to do with the legality of marriage? Or God's definition of marriage? Or ones commitment to their marriage? I'm just not following you. Sorry.

because people do lie and if you cared you would commit legally, do we just take peoples word these days? do you expect a bank to loan money out without lawful enforcement?
I don't need a cop to tell me speeding is wrong. I don't need a judge to tell me lying is bad. its the same argument for anarchy.

 

[jasonc]

I think Jesus' response is clear that they were cohabiting but were not married.
I think the misunderstanding that some have it that cohabiting is the only stipulation for being considered a common law marriage but it is not.
Most people are not stupid enough to claim they are married by common law if they really don't mean it.
The consequences of that to one's pocketbook and other property are too great.
One of the stipulation of common law is that you present yourself to the community as husband and wife. That would be things like wearing wedding bands, having a celebration, buying a house as husband and wife, several things.

uhm, live in couples do that. I know a few, its rare but they are out there.

 

[jasonc]

In a case where a spouse doesn't trust the other spouse, what would be the purpose for the marriage?
I guess people have different motives for getting married. I just figured it would be mostly because there is mutual love, respect and trust...idk.

women want to leave small towns. I should know its what I left for the army. americans to the germans at one time offered freedom.lonely soldier boy, attractive female, sex, and deception. its the stuff of tabloids and movies.

 

[jasonc]

Have you read the law? Both the Biblical law and the governmental law. It doesn't appear to me that you have. It appears to me that you have made up your own stipulations for both God's law and governmental laws and wish to impose it on those who are following both laws.
I happen to believe that our Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights was written based on the moral laws found in God's Word. Obviously, you don't.

one doesn't have to reconcile if your spouse commits adultery. you can divorce on that. my state doesn't have common law marriages.

 

[Jesse]

women want to leave small towns. I should know its what I left for the army. americans to the germans at one time offered freedom.lonely soldier boy, attractive female, sex, and deception. its the stuff of tabloids and movies.

What you're saying is sometimes people get married to escape their situation, and I wonder how many people realize that when they're doing it? They think the reason is "true love".

 

[jasonc]

What you're saying is sometimes people get married to escape their situation, and I wonder how many people realize that when they're doing it? They think the reason is "true love".

unconsciously at times and sometimes they do know and use the man or woman just to leave town or the nation.i was problably used in like manner by my first love.

 

[Jesse]

unconsciously at times and sometimes they do know and use the man or woman just to leave town or the nation.i was problably used in like manner by my first love.

I have heard that foreign women will want to marry american military so they can move here.

 

[jasonc]

I have heard that foreign women will want to marry american military so they can move here.

it also works for small towns in America. if we stayed pure that may not happen as easily. funny the other head does all the talking and thinking for the male aged 18-30. at age 31 that brain in the head starts to work, he says no and you aint worth all that.

 

[Jesse]

it also works for small towns in America. if we stayed pure that may not happen as easily. funny the other head does all the talking and thinking for the male aged 18-30. at age 31 that brain in the head starts to work, he says no and you aint worth all that.

Idk, I'm thinking a female is not going to be thinking for me - no way.