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[thessalonian]

Ya know what. I couldn't find any websites from a Catholic source that stoop near to the level of JM's Iconbuster links in his thread. JM, if you've got one post it right here. I have looked all over the web and there is no Catholic website that I know of that mocks, distorts, ridicules and ingeneral disrespects people the way the Iconbusters and JM's post does. NOTHING EVEN CLOSE! Yet in truth I have seen dozens if not 100 websites just like Iconbusters with little substance and much buffoonery. Somehow these websites are supposed to bring Cathollics out of the wicked snares of Catholicism. :-? We'll ridicule them till they start standing in line to get in to a Billy Graham Crusade. By the way, don't you think we could get creative with Protestants, posting pictures of this old feeble man. (Billy Graham) One whom I think has served Christ rather admirably, though I don't agree with all he has taught. I still have great respect for his tireless efforts and it is my hope that where he was incorrect on God will have mercy on him. But no, JM's site has antichrist slide shows mocking and riduculing sick old men with a very debilitating disease. Very low class.


You know something. I listen to liberal radio on rare occasion. Air America it is called just to see what the other side is up to. The childishness I see on Iconbusters is similar to what I hear on that radio station. Flatulations, name calling, foul language, doctored and misused pictures. Very juvenile. It seems that when people lack substance they must resort to buffoonery. Sad. Very sad.


Perhaps we can discuss in this thread Why is it that Catholics don't have websites with such nonsensical, immature, buffoonery on them? Why do MANY Protestants (though not all, drew, your excluded from this club) feel the need to get so far in the mud. Do you think Protestant leaders and apologists don't provide enough material that some creative mudslinging couldn't be done. Your kidding, rigth? :o If anyone knows of websites that are nearly as offensive, even 1/2 or 1/4 as offensive regarding Protestantism, post them. I will be glad to send them an email with my negative comments.
Blessings

 

[belovedwolfofgod]

Essentially, this mud slinging is why I left the Baptist church and began searching for the truth. Defining one's position almost solely in negatoin of something kinda gives credance to the other side. Of course, that was just one church...


And you couldnt even find schismatic traditionalist sites? Of course, they are schismatics, but probably the closest thing to Catholic that would have such venom. But you have a point... and believe me, I have looked.

 

[thessalonian]

Essentially, this mud slinging is why I left the Baptist church and began searching for the truth. Defining one's position almost solely in negatoin of something kinda gives credance to the other side. Of course, that was just one church...


And you couldnt even find schismatic traditionalist sites? Of course, they are schismatics, but probably the closest thing to Catholic that would have such venom. But you have a point... and believe me, I have looked.

Actually no. Considering the harsh view Trads take toward non-catholics you would think they would have some sites that are comparable. But I have not seen any anywhere on the web. Oddly enough I think you can find some trad sites that are similar to the Protestant sites regarding orthodox Catholicism.

 

[stovebolts]

If it's of any value Thessalonian, that other site was pretty stupid and did nothing but promote hatred which is against all scripture.

I've always wondered how we can justify our hatred with a facade of rightousness. Don't get me wrong, we can be rightous, but only through the Spirit and not of ourselves.

It's truly a sad thing, yet is appears we are all guilty of it to one extent or the other, I suppose it's just a matter of what the issue is and how it's manifested huh? Perhaps if it's labeled as religious, it carries more weight? Something to ponder, what do you think?

Take care,
Jeff

 

[thessalonian]

It's truly a sad thing, yet is appears we are all guilty of it to one extent or the other, I suppose it's just a matter of what the issue is and how it's manifested huh? Perhaps if it's labeled as religious, it carries more weight? Something to ponder, what do you think?

Take care,
Jeff

I certainly have said things on this and other boards in the past that have had some level of prejudice associated with them so I do agree we are not all faultless in this. It certainly does not uplift the body of Christ. I think it is sad that those who put together such websites and those who promote them cannot take an honest look at themselves and admit their culpability in it. That is what I think. And yes, I think there is something in the Catholic mindset that holds us back from creating and presenting such massive amounts of prejudicial, insulting, biggoted matterial. A more honest look at other religions. A perspective that allows us to see the good and the bad in all men. A view of ourselvs that allows us to challenge our actions and to strive for holiness, though we will not likely achieve it in this lifetime. A constant focus on rooting out sin, i.e. prejudice and hatred in our lives. Being Catholic I can see very good reason why the internet is not plastered with such websites from a Catholic point of view, though believe me, protestants provide plenty of material for such a site. Of course the likes of JM will not see it.

 

[Heidi]

Ya know what. I couldn't find any websites from a Catholic source that stoop near to the level of JM's Iconbuster links in his thread. JM, if you've got one post it right here. I have looked all over the web and there is no Catholic website that I know of that mocks, distorts, ridicules and ingeneral disrespects people the way the Iconbusters and JM's post does. NOTHING EVEN CLOSE! Yet in truth I have seen dozens if not 100 websites just like Iconbusters with little substance and much buffoonery. Somehow these websites are supposed to bring Cathollics out of the wicked snares of Catholicism. :-? We'll ridicule them till they start standing in line to get in to a Billy Graham Crusade. By the way, don't you think we could get creative with Protestants, posting pictures of this old feeble man. (Billy Graham) One whom I think has served Christ rather admirably, though I don't agree with all he has taught. I still have great respect for his tireless efforts and it is my hope that where he was incorrect on God will have mercy on him. But no, JM's site has antichrist slide shows mocking and riduculing sick old men with a very debilitating disease. Very low class.


You know something. I listen to liberal radio on rare occasion. Air America it is called just to see what the other side is up to. The childishness I see on Iconbusters is similar to what I hear on that radio station. Flatulations, name calling, foul language, doctored and misused pictures. Very juvenile. It seems that when people lack substance they must resort to buffoonery. Sad. Very sad.


Perhaps we can discuss in this thread Why is it that Catholics don't have websites with such nonsensical, immature, buffoonery on them? Why do MANY Protestants (though not all, drew, your excluded from this club) feel the need to get so far in the mud. Do you think Protestant leaders and apologists don't provide enough material that some creative mudslinging couldn't be done. Your kidding, rigth? :o If anyone knows of websites that are nearly as offensive, even 1/2 or 1/4 as offensive regarding Protestantism, post them. I will be glad to send them an email with my negative comments.
Blessings

That's because the protrestants don't distort the bible like the catholics do. So there is nothing to criticize them for. The catholics think all the popes are Peter. That's like Patton claiming that all generals are Patton. It's delusional and not biblical and neither is it biblical that Mary was sinless all of her life. True Christians challenge anyone who distors the bible and makes up their own scripture just like Paul and the other disciples did.

 

[thessalonian]

I take it then, that you are in favor of such websited Heidi. Thanks. That's what I thought.

 

[Heidi]

I take it then, that you are in favor of such websited Heidi. Thanks. That's what I thought.

I'm in favor of any website that puts the Word of God above anyone's beliefs.

 

[Drew]

That's because the protrestants don't distort the bible like the catholics do. So there is nothing to criticize them for.

Nothing to criticize them for??? I think an objective review of much of what gets posted on this site from protestants suggests otherwise. I know very little about Catholic beliefs and doctrine. However, I can recognize bad thinking and vindictiveness when I see it. And I think that the Protestants have generally not acquitted themselves all that well on this forum (with some exceptions).

I am inclined to believe that the sort of offensive behaviour that the OP refers to is largely determined by the specific life path of the person who makes such posts. However, there may indeed be "denominational" issues that lead certain groups to be engage in this behaviour more often than others. It would be interesting to discuss this if it can be done in a civil manner.

 

[Heidi]

That's because the protrestants don't distort the bible like the catholics do. So there is nothing to criticize them for.

Nothing to criticize them for??? I think an objective review of much of what gets posted on this site from protestants suggests otherwise. I know very little about Catholic beliefs and doctrine. However, I can recognize bad thinking and vindictiveness when I see it. And I think that the Protestants have generally not acquitted themselves all that well on this forum (with some exceptions).

I am inclined to believe that the sort of offensive behaviour that the OP refers to is largely determined by the specific life path of the person who makes such posts. However, there may indeed be "denominational" issues that lead certain groups to be engage in this behaviour more often than others. It would be interesting to discuss this if it can be done in a civil manner.

Only when you read the bible will you see why the catholics are criticized...that is if you believe the bible is the Word of God. Jesus and the apostles did and i'm not ashamed to agree with them.

 

[JM]

Well, it would of been funny if you started a thread on your own without copying, but I'm game.

You might be a Redneck Calvinist if…

the church you attend is not seeker-friendly, but cigar-friendly.

you hear “Free Will,†and think about bailing out your cousin “Will†in jail.

your dad uses the double barrel shotgun for his own “effectual calling.â€Â

you think that an Amyrauldian is road kill.

BHT means Barbeque Hogs Tonight.

the only overalls you will buy are made by Calvin.

you compliment your wife with, “God has ordained your voice to sound like a chainsaw.â€Â

your church has justified to include the banjo and harmonica under the Regulative Principle.

your church refuses to call the church picnic a Potluck.

you have the five solas tattooed on your arm.

lol

 

[JM]

PS: The website promotes what is called "historicism" and is written into the Westminister and London Baptist confessions of faith, not to mention "the man of sin" is referenced to the popish system in the KJV preface. It was the most common view held among Bible believers during the Reformation until two Jesuit priest invented the futurest [what became the rapture view] and the preterist views to take the heat off the papal office.

If you think I'm lying about catholic priest doing just that, do a google.

lol

You might be a Redneck Arminian if…

you hear “Irresistible Grace†and think of your cousin.

there is a fiddle accompaniment with Just as I am.

your exegesis consists of having 2 Peter 3:9 tattooed on your arm.

when you hear “RC†you think of Cola.

you think that supralapsarian is a newly breed dog.

you possess more Charles Finney books than teeth.

when the preacher mentions that we are but lumps of clay, you think of Mud Bogs.

you hear someone say Ordo Salutis and think they had too much moonshine.

you think “Spurgeon†is something you catch with rod & reel from your brother-in-law’s boat.

when you hear the Institutes you think of where many of your relatives live.

“The Chief End of Man†is where you end up after “The Fall of Man.â€Â

you think that “Limited Atonement†is a single barrel shotgun.

you purchase your Dave Hunt books through the Home Shopping Network.

when you hear “five points†it reminds you of your average monthly reduction in your driver’s record.

you have a bumper sticker on yourtruck that says, “If there ain’t free will in heaven, I don’t want to go.â€Â

 

[JM]

http://www.truecatholic.org/

http://www.traditio.com/

http://www.sspx-schism.com/main.htm

http://www.sspx.co.uk/articles.php?articleid=138

Wasn't it Pope Pius the X that said catholic's should smash protestants and physically evict them out of Rome?

SSPX holds to the pre-Vat II view of Bible believers, they hate us, BUT the papal office smoothed things over [copying the Anglican Liturgy and Rite] to make them more acceptible to the modern mind.

Here's one from a Traditional Catholic:

John the 23rd dies. He's at the gates waiting to get into heaven and St. Peter says, sorry your not on the list. John says that's impossible, let me speak to someone else, I'm the Holy Catholic Vicar! St. Peter gets the Holy Spirit and ask Him, the Holy Spirit says I've never heard of John the 23rd. John exclaims, that's impossible, I was pope I called Vatican II! The Holy Spirit says, Ahhhhhh I forgot to go to that. [if you're catholic and understand the pressure between trads and moderns, you'll find this funny]

lol

 

[thessalonian]

Well, it would of been funny if you started a thread on your own without copying, but I'm game.

Copy? No, I didn't copy. Apparently you don't get it. This isn't about copying but you evidently don't get it. Some things are not funny. In case you hadn't noticed your other thread got locked. :o Some of your Protestant brothers get it. Sheesh.

Ah and now I see we have jesuits starting protestant heresies. Oh did you know Martin Luther started one. John Calvin another.

 

[destiny]

That's because the protrestants don't distort the bible like the catholics do. So there is nothing to criticize them for.

Nothing to criticize them for??? I think an objective review of much of what gets posted on this site from protestants suggests otherwise. I know very little about Catholic beliefs and doctrine. However, I can recognize bad thinking and vindictiveness when I see it. And I think that the Protestants have generally not acquitted themselves all that well on this forum (with some exceptions).

I am inclined to believe that the sort of offensive behaviour that the OP refers to is largely determined by the specific life path of the person who makes such posts. However, there may indeed be "denominational" issues that lead certain groups to be engage in this behaviour more often than others. It would be interesting to discuss this if it can be done in a civil manner.

Drew, I know Baptist, 'Church of God' people, nondenominationals, lutherans, pentecostals, catholics...and I assure you none of the bickering attitudes on this forum reflect them at all. It's an individual thing.
Part of it is the spirit of this forum more than what denomination they represent.
It's just too easy to hide behind a computer moniter hundreds of miles away and belt this stuff out.
The body of Christ is a people, unfortunately most of us do a poor job representing Jesus no matter how 'right' we might be.
What people need to see is that being right isn't all there is to Christianity. Having the nature of Jesus is as equally important or we are just making some noise.
And yes, I need to heed that myself.

 

[mutzrein]

I obviously missed something. What (protestant) web sites are being referred to? Thanks

 

[gingercat]

Jesus says that He did not come here to bring peace. The Bible also says to expose the evil deeds of darkness. Because there is so much evil being practiced, there should be many of them being exposed. It is much healthier than hiding them.

 

[CatholicXian]

Jesus says that He did not come here to bring peace. The Bible also says to expose the evil deeds of darkness. Because there is so much evil being practiced, there should be many of them being exposed. It is much healthier than hiding them.

But one ought to do so charitably. You will win over no one to Christ by acting like Satan. Being rude, uncharitable, sarcastic, etc. in the name of love of another is not Charity, and it is not love. It is a farce. It's a delibrate cut of another person.

Christ may have been forceful with words, but He was never deceitful nor mean-spirited.


It is one thing to say another is wrong and demonstrate that this is so. And it is a completely different thing to bash another by dressing up with humor, sarcasm, or false "charity".

 

[ttg]

Heidi says "So there is nothing to criticize them for."

Protestants burned 130,000 "witches" at the stake in Germany and France. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they shouldn't have done that.

 

[Heidi]

Heidi says "So there is nothing to criticize them for."

Protestants burned 130,000 "witches" at the stake in Germany and France. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they shouldn't have done that.

Then criticize protestants for that. I'm all for challenging anyone who disagrees with the bible! But protestants do not have a myriad of pages in a doctrine that have so little to do with the bible that it has to be written down! If the catholics simply agreed with the bible, then why do they have theirr own doctrine instead of the bible? Why is it necessary when we already have the bible? :o