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Question about the Flood

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SEEKER55

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IF ALL animals on earth originated from a single source, namely Noah’s Ark then why are there(called indigenous) marsupials (kangaroos, koalas) ONLY in Australia, lions African elephants, zebras ONLY in Africa, rattlesnakes ONLY in North America etc.?
Can someone please explain to me how kangaroos made it to Australia from the Middle East and why there is no evidence of them having lived anywhere else.
 
You probably won't get a whole bunch of responses from traditionalists.

The truth is, IMHO, that Noah DIDN'T have EVERY animal in the Ark. Just the ones NEEDED to create a basic ecosystem in the area which was flooded. Food animals and the basic animals needed to 'start over' until the surrounding area could 'come back'.

It is rediculous to think that he had EVERY animal on the ark. The logistics of a ship containing EVERY animal that exists is unfathomable even TODAY. Just the concept of keeping enough FRESH food to feed them all for A YEAR is more than we could accomplish TODAY.

I know, I know, the traditionalists will be yelling, "off with his head. Don't you know that NOTHING is impossible with God". Yes, I DO KNOW that.

But, if one reads the Bible and the story of Noah, it is pretty easy to see that there were PARTICULAR people that God destroyed. And those people would most likely have not spread over more than a few hundreds of miles from where they started at the time of the flood.

And not only would the question of the different animals on different continents have to be answered, so TOO would one have to explain the DIFFERENT races. For if ALL came from Noah, then we would ALL share common characteristics. This does not account for different RACES of people.

Traditionalists will state that the division of races and languages took place at the tower of Babel. Funny, but HOW did these different races spread out over the entire planet BEFORE they had the MEANS to DO SO? I mean, before there was the means of oceanic navigation and such?

The aboriginies of the different islands for example. You know, Like Hawaiians, Maori, heck, the American Indians?

So, the answer is that there was obviously a LOCALIZED FLOOD. How large we don't know. Large enough to appear to those that witnessed it to 'cover the earth'.

Blessings,

MEC
 
Here are a couple of articles that may help with your question.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... als-spread (addresses the question of koalas etc)
http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... od-and-ark (addresses the question of how many animals needed to be in the Ark, and so on)

I'd encourage you to read them.

In response to whether the Flood was global, the Scripture is clear.

Genesis 6:17: "And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die." (NKJV)

Secondly, God's promise never to flood the Earth again has clearly been broken countless times if He wasn't referring to a universal Flood. Genesis 9:11: "Thus I establish My covenant with you: Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood; never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth.â€Â
 
An even better question is;
What did the bears, lions, tigers, cheetahs, leopards, hyenas, civets, foxes, wolves, dogs, and all the other carnivores eat when they emerged from the Ark?
 
This does not account for different RACES of people.
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huh.
And all this time I thought we ALL were the HUMAN 'race'.
Guess Ill have to update my notes :o
 
SEEKER55 said:
An even better question is;
What did the bears, lions, tigers, cheetahs, leopards, hyenas, civets, foxes, wolves, dogs, and all the other carnivores eat when they emerged from the Ark?
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Good question :)
Gee, I wonder if ANY part of the flood story is true, say a Deity causing ANY animals at all to come to the Ark, if that same Deity might not have had away to fed them for a while....hmmmm....maybe fish or some other water animal that possibly DIDNT die in a worldwide flood ? ;)

Not to mention the fact that my old Rottweiler would eat a whole raw potato over raw meat any day of the week. ;)
 
It is rediculous to think that he had EVERY animal on the ark. The logistics of a ship containing EVERY animal that exists is unfathomable even TODAY.
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What is ridiculous is someone claiming that EVERY animal would have to be taken onto the Ark. There are a great many varieties of all kinds of animals. Only one pair of 'mutts' of each kind would be needed to repopulate.

What gets me about the flood story is how quick christians who believe in science more than God it would seem, are so quick to come up with reasons why an OMNIPOTENT Deity cannot have done things how His word says they were done.
Its almost like science is more powerful than God to some...even tho NONE of them were there ;)
 
Ok, dogs should not have been on that list, but you still didn't answer the question about what the carnivores ate after they left the Ark.
 
What if all the animals were pups, colts, baby animals? Kind of changes things doesn't it? ;)
 
Noahs_Ark.jpg



Have a look here..

http://www.arksearch.com/naexped.htm#George%20Hagopian


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0796690151
 
SEEKER55 said:
but you still didn't answer the question about what the carnivores ate after they left the Ark.
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Before Adam and Eve sinned, man and animals were vegetarian because nothing died until that point. It is not impossible to think that God made the animals vegetarian again, until the earth was replenished enough for carnivores to hunt.
 
All were vegetarians until after the flood:

Genesis 1:29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the groundâ€â€everything that has the breath of life in itâ€â€I give every green plant for food." And it was so.


Genesis 9:1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

I don't think that one needs to believe that each and every animal that walks the face of the earth today was on the ark. Two dogs were and those two dogs became the parents of all 34 species and over 120 breeds of dogs that we have today. Two cats were and those two cats were the parents of all 37 cat species and the I-don't-know-how-many breeds of cats.

Genesis states that God created each after its own kind. That is the key, the "own kind" part. This is why I reject Darwinism because it teaches that each kind evolved from an earlier kind and that is patently against what the Bible teaches. But the Bible doesn't say anything at all as to how those animals that created then adapted and changed to fit their environment. This certainly is what happened with mankind, for within mankind we see a variety of shapes, sizes and colors that make up the one human race.

I'm not talking about evolution here, just adaptation and genetics.
 
My biggest problem with the story of Noah’s Ark is this;
Does anyone have any estimates on the number of children and babies that would have drowned in a global flood?
Would God have killed innocent children? I don’t think so!
 
I think the biggest problem for Noah was probably the stench. I mean, all those animals urinating and defecating all over the floor. And with the boat rocking to and fro on the high seas, you know the turds rolled across his feet.
 
SEEKER55 said:
My biggest problem with the story of Noah’s Ark is this;
Does anyone have any estimates on the number of children and babies that would have drowned in a global flood?
Would God have killed innocent children? I don’t think so!
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It's hard to think of, but its far better to come to grips with certain uncomfortable truths about who God is, than to create a god of our own mind. Sure, it's nice to think of a god that would never do anything but sweetness and light, but that isn't reality and a god that is not based upon reality doesn't have either the power to destroy or to save.

Innocent children die all the time. That is one of the cruelest effects of sin. Are they condemned to everlasting torment? No, not at all. But, at the time of Noah, God deemed it righteous that all but Noah and his family would perish, the children to be with Him, the lost to truly perish.

Genesis tells us that "the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." I shudder to think of what the weak and helpless were suffering in that environment. I see the wickedness of adults against children in this day and age of reason and law and am astounded as to what horrible things happen to children. Death isn't the worst thing that can happen to a child, not by a long shot.

God's ways are just and righteous. If He took a course of action, I think we can be a peace that it was the right thing to do.
 
How about this incredible idea – that God IS good, just, and merciful and would NEVER kill innocent babies or ORDER anyone else to do such a thing. Maybe the stories in the Bible are just that - stories made up by MAN to serve his own purpose.
 
The problem Seeker is that you are taking small parts of the Bible and trying to make sense of it. You need to take everything into account as this forms the whole of the story and gives context to all that is said.
 
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