Random thoughts on community.

[Lance_Iguana]

The idea of Christianity is that JEsus came and saved us by providing us an answere. Fallow him and we will be blessed, refuse him and we will be left and cast away.

You can call it humanistic of me, or whatever buzz word you can throw out., but I'm thinking that maybe Jesus didn't mean we are to be christains in a general sense, but Christianity is within his spirit and his works.


Jesus formed a group of different people of profession, liniage, and ideas, using each of their strengths and weeknesses. Jesus showed us sin and warned us about their downfall.

What we learn about sin from Jesus is that they have social wrongs along side spiritual wrongs. Murder, rape, lieing, judgeing, bullying, and classism are all condemed by Jesus as being sinful, and we can see the social relavence to this.

Jesus taught that we are all of the lord, meaing we are all one people under him. There was no longer Jew or gentile, just the saved and unsaved.

Jesus said that if we are not with him, then we are against him. Now In my understanding, this means that if we don't share the same spirit, then we are against him. Maybe its not about seeing Jesus as a supreme being, but as the way. Living a life of praise instead virtue, instead of using virtue as a means to make monentary gain.

As in giving some of your wealth to a starving man instead of donating money to geta tax right off. The first one is a showing that you gave with no expection of return while the latter dosen't.


Maybe Jesus is just a figuer of teh ideal of what we should be, but isn't necesarily the entity.




Just a random thought.

 

[jasoncran]

i will answer this in depth tommorow. social gospel stuff, nothing wrong with helping fellow man. Many of those that are so called christians often dont give or care for the poor. In James it says pure religion is this taking care of the widow and the poor indeed.

 

[Lance_Iguana]

I am also pndering over ideas such as these:

When Jesus instructed us not to cast pearls before the feet of swine and dogs, maybe he was talking about knowledge and praise in general. If a man or women dose nothing but attempt to tear you down whether it be the gospel, science, or about yourself, maybe that is what was meant.


When Jesus saved Paul the tax collector, Marry Magdelan the prostitute, sat with the pagans, and even declared that those who died next to him on the cross, maybe he was showing us that there is no true difference amongst us, that we all are human and have done wrong, but we also have the same capacity to do right.


Maybe Pilot was a symbol for showing us how letting ourselves get caught up in politics will do nothing but hurt us in the end, even if we did it out of good intention or ideal morality.

Just more random thoughts. :yes

 

[jasoncran]

lance. paul the apostle was saul the pharisee who perescuted the church.

the tax collector your are thinking about was either Matthew or Zacheus.

Casting the pearl before swine means this that when someone is intent on making fun of the Lord and is so foolish that he thinks he right with everything, we should just walk away. The are proverbs on this

Rebuke not a scoffer lest he mock thee.

we all are sinners and need Jesus in order to be saved.

 

[Lance_Iguana]

lance. paul the apostle was saul the pharisee who perescuted the church.

the tax collector your are thinking about was either Matthew or Zacheus.

You are right, It was Matthew. I was thinking of Mathew but trying to form and idea about Paul speaking to the Corinthians and confused myself, my bad.

Casting the pearl before swine means this that when someone is intent on making fun of the Lord and is so foolish that he thinks he right with everything, we should just walk away. The are proverbs on this

Rebuke not a scoffer lest he mock thee.

I don't think I said as clear as I meant to. I know in Mathew 1 its about God, but I was trying to show that maybe it reaches out futher ans shows us just to avoid fools in general. :P

we all are sinners and need Jesus in order to be saved.

I fully understand this within Christianity. What I'm really trying to have a conversation on is possibly showing a bridge to other forms of thought on the relavence of the Bible to other schools of thought such as pantheism and even Atheistic humanism. Not promoting, but just showing a dialouge of ways to talk to one another for a learning process.