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the hologram examplei isa easy way to explain how this works.

An easy way to give a false idea. A hologram is only a picture, it is not 'real'.

Science confirms that only God is real.

Then why are so many scientist opposed to God, Christianity and the Bible?

Certainly scientists believe that only science is real, that materialism is all there is.

Talk to atheists about what caused the big bang?
You won't get them to accept that a supernatural entity caused the big bang.
 
i understand what you mean but don't forget God is God of the whole world. The buddha guy tried mens religions but knew there was more. It had to be Jesus that opened his mind. His teachings were not so different. Jesus say to he who knocks the door shall be opened . He didn't say you have to have grown up in palestine or jerusalem or you outa luck. God reveals himself to different people in different ways. God is not limited to mans rules of dogma. Jesus is for everyone who seeks Him is my
personal understanding. It looks to me like we are beyond false teachers now. satan is literally trying to get in our face now. We need all decent loving people to join together
as one. We need to find a way to include everyone because as we speak Bill Gates is promoting the mark of the beast during all this confusion. His artificial vaccine he says will inject people with nano particle rfid so they can scan who has the "mark". He literally said we won't be able to gather in groups till everybody has it. He's been on TV
promoting this all week. Thats the false prophet stuff we need to worry about. We need everyone . we need to save His sheep. This is our job as christians now it looks like. What do you think will be the best way to approach our present dilemma ? Sorry but this stuff is happening fast . Maybe some global forum between many denominations
and religions. Strength in numbers people. No lie ...Bill gates is really saying this stuff,
and he was at the davos meeting with all those other crazy rich folk planning this last year. Also 100% fact

I would love to talk to you about the mark of the beast as it has nothing to do with Bill Gates. I will start a new topic on that in the End Times forum later on today so back to the topic at hand.

The thing is that God is not about the 4200 different kinds of religions that are in this world as God is not about religion, but about all of us having a personal relationship with His Son Christ Jesus. There is no other way to the Father, but through Christ alone.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 the same was in the beginning with God. 3 all things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 in him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 and the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles, (wisdom) of God, if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth, that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ to whom be praise and dominion forever and ever, Amen.

John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
 
An easy way to give a false idea. A hologram is only a picture, it is not 'real'.



Then why are so many scientist opposed to God, Christianity and the Bible?

Certainly scientists believe that only science is real, that materialism is all there is.

Talk to atheists about what caused the big bang?
You won't get them to accept that a supernatural entity caused the big bang.
Some of the older school scientists still believe this , but they being left behind.
The latest science shows that only God (Consciousness) exists. Matter is not real.
Look through electron microscope and see for yourself. As for the Big Bang? Didn't think many people still believe that, but it can be debunked in 5 min. Too much order and coincidence in the world for most scientists to still believe it.
 
I would love to talk to you about the mark of the beast as it has nothing to do with Bill Gates. I will start a new topic on that in the End Times forum later on today so back to the topic at hand.

The thing is that God is not about the 4200 different kinds of religions that are in this world as God is not about religion, but about all of us having a personal relationship with His Son Christ Jesus. There is no other way to the Father, but through Christ alone.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 the same was in the beginning with God. 3 all things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 in him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 and the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles, (wisdom) of God, if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth, that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ to whom be praise and dominion forever and ever, Amen.

John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
All the christian churches believe in Jesus. I'm talking about christian churches. That includes Catholics too (for some reason some people categorize them differently)
If you don't think a microchip is the mark of the beast what ???? i don't know what too say right now. It is Bill Gates pushing this on everyone.
I would love to talk to you about the mark of the beast as it has nothing to do with Bill Gates. I will start a new topic on that in the End Times forum later on today so back to the topic at hand.

The thing is that God is not about the 4200 different kinds of religions that are in this world as God is not about religion, but about all of us having a personal relationship with His Son Christ Jesus. There is no other way to the Father, but through Christ alone.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 the same was in the beginning with God. 3 all things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 in him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 and the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles, (wisdom) of God, if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth, that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ to whom be praise and dominion forever and ever, Amen.

John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
 
I would love to talk to you about the mark of the beast as it has nothing to do with Bill Gates. I will start a new topic on that in the End Times forum later on today so back to the topic at hand.

The thing is that God is not about the 4200 different kinds of religions that are in this world as God is not about religion, but about all of us having a personal relationship with His Son Christ Jesus. There is no other way to the Father, but through Christ alone.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 the same was in the beginning with God. 3 all things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 in him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 and the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles, (wisdom) of God, if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth, that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ to whom be praise and dominion forever and ever, Amen.

John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
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Perfect. All of these passages are just what I've been saying. Above ALL, and through ALL, and in YOU ALL. We are in total agreement then. Some people just have a different perspective on the nature of Jesus. Remember the Helen Keller story about when they started showing her the brail version of the Gospels she got all exited and said "I know Him" She didn't need any church or preacher. God was already communicating to her cause God is in us ALL. Some people sadly forget and turn to a life of crime or politics
(ha ha just kidding i think) Anyway thats why i started with remember who you are. The Lion king post is all we really need to see about all this. Good one HR
 
Some of the older school scientists still believe this , but they being left behind.
The latest science shows that only God (Consciousness) exists. Matter is not real.
Look through electron microscope and see for yourself. As for the Big Bang? Didn't think many people still believe that, but it can be debunked in 5 min. Too much order and coincidence in the world for most scientists to still believe it.




The Bible says that God created the world in seven days right? However, I don't see anywhere of how He did it as when He originally said "let there be light" it very well could have been with a big bang in my mind. Yep, I don't see anything proving it or disproving it in here. Genesis 1:3. :bible
 
All the christian churches believe in Jesus. I'm talking about christian churches. That includes Catholics too (for some reason some people categorize them differently)
If you don't think a microchip is the mark of the beast what ???? i don't know what too say right now. It is Bill Gates pushing this on everyone.

A true Christian church is not a four walled building, nor of various denominations and non-denominations, but the body of believers who confess Christ as their Lord and Savior being indwelled with the Holy Spirit at the time of conversion through the Spiritual rebirth from above where Christ sits at the right hand of God.

Many other of the 4200 religions are of the synagogue of Satan, Rev 2:9; 39, for they do not teach nor believe the doctrines of Christ, nor do they believe in the God of all creation, but would rather believe the deceptive lies of Satan.

Latin root word for religion is bondage, which is different then that of Gods pure religion of James 1:27, but that of following tradition and the doctrine of a mans church, not Gods true Church. The Latin root word is religare as re is a prefix that means return and ligare means to bind. Religion tells you what you can and cannot do and becomes socially acceptable by mans interpretations, traditions and doctrines. Religion is what nailed Christ to the cross because the Bible is not socially acceptable to society, if it were then Christ would have died in vain. God is not about mans religion, nor does he recognize organized religion. God is about a personal relationship with you and His son Jesus Christ.

I made a new thread in the End Times forum about the mark of the beast if you want know how I understand it.
 

Is God in Satan and all those Satan works through, no, but yet God is above them, but not found in them.

God is only found in those who accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and their names found written in the Lamb's book of life.

John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
 
The Bible says that God created the world in seven days right? However, I don't see anywhere of how He did it as when He originally said "let there be light" it very well could have been with a big bang in my mind. Yep, I don't see anything proving it or disproving it in here. Genesis 1:3. :bible

All God had to do is speak these things of His creation into existence. Big bang theory only believes in evolution, not creation.
 
All God had to do is speak these things of His creation into existence. Big bang theory only believes in evolution, not creation.



Hey, all I'm saying is it's possible to believe in both. There is such thing as a Christian scientist. In fact I do believe that Albert Einstein was one if I'm not mistaken.
 
All God had to do is speak these things of His creation into existence. Big bang theory only believes in evolution, not creation.

I think a lot of the theories that try to explain how the beginning of the universe, the beginning of the earth, or the beginning of life on earth are all just explainations but without any way to confirm those explainations.

With that in mind I think a lot of it is more philosophy trying to make sense of the world and make sense of observations that lead to the big band and evolution as conclusions.

There's no way to find answers that far back through scientific means. All they are, are the best explainations that scientists might have, but the explainations are not scientific in themselves. With that in mind I'll lean on what Scientists are good at answering, and discovering. But the past is not one of those things.
 
A true Christian church is not a four walled building, nor of various denominations and non-denominations, but the body of believers who confess Christ as their Lord and Savior being indwelled with the Holy Spirit at the time of conversion through the Spiritual rebirth from above where Christ sits at the right hand of God.

Many other of the 4200 religions are of the synagogue of Satan, Rev 2:9; 39, for they do not teach nor believe the doctrines of Christ, nor do they believe in the God of all creation, but would rather believe the deceptive lies of Satan.

Latin root word for religion is bondage, which is different then that of Gods pure religion of James 1:27, but that of following tradition and the doctrine of a mans church, not Gods true Church. The Latin root word is religare as re is a prefix that means return and ligare means to bind. Religion tells you what you can and cannot do and becomes socially acceptable by mans interpretations, traditions and doctrines. Religion is what nailed Christ to the cross because the Bible is not socially acceptable to society, if it were then Christ would have died in vain. God is not about mans religion, nor does he recognize organized religion. God is about a personal relationship with you and His son Jesus Christ.

I made a new thread in the End Times forum about the mark of the beast if you want know how I understand it.
again i agree with most of what you posted. already understanding what you just posted
i guess i wrote simply because I'm trying not to get all wordy. don't worry I'm the last person to wish someone get stuck in a blind religion. still we need all Gods children on board to stop satan's diabolical plan to inject us all with the nano chip and effect our bodies with the 5G frequency they are trying to instal as we speak. FCC approved millions of antenna and elon musk is still sending thousand go 5G satellites to orbit. and bill gates is touring tv etc. pushing his vax w the nano particle tags. I really sounding like end times so i go check out your new thread soon
 
We are beings of light and of course it the light of God but we are children of light and so have light in our DNA. From what I have heard they now think that our blood is made out of congealed light.

Isaiah 60:
60 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.

2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
 
We are beings of light and of course it the light of God but we are children of light and so have light in our DNA. From what I have heard they now think that our blood is made out of congealed light.

Isaiah 60:
60 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.

2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Dr Bruce Lipton just did another hour plus interview on Londonreal.tv about this subject.
He proves scientifically that as you say, be the church. Blood, cells, DNA, are influenced
by our thoughts. We keep only good and healthy thoughts and our body stays healthy.
Long interview, but remember Jesus says its not food that defiles us,(food was all organic then) its what we think and say. Quantum physics is proving and explaining to the Gentiles how Jesus is right.
We just waiting now for the kings to come to the brightness.
 
Dr Bruce Lipton just did another hour plus interview on Londonreal.tv about this subject.
He proves scientifically that as you say, be the church. Blood, cells, DNA, are influenced
by our thoughts. We keep only good and healthy thoughts and our body stays healthy.
Long interview, but remember Jesus says its not food that defiles us,(food was all organic then) its what we think and say. Quantum physics is proving and explaining to the Gentiles how Jesus is right.
We just waiting now for the kings to come to the brightness.

I think I say a bit on that from a movie years ago called "what the bleep do we know" in one part of the movie it talked about how our thoughts affected our hormones produced which affects out body. Since then I've looked briefly into it and it's true, (regardless of hormones) that there are physical observations that conside with our emotions. (Like having a greater chance of a heart attack if you're angry, or if you're often angry). Sadness, guilt, stress. These all seem to have an effect on the body. But on the other hand what effect they have on the body doesn't equate on what they do to us in our mind and our thoughts. Sadness might bring more compassion for others, guilt brings repentance and change, even anger brings change. (Not always for the better, but at least it's not the same anymore). Stress though has many studies on it's ill effects, and that seems courious when Jesus taught to not worry.

Have a good one billspeerage :)
 
Some of the older school scientists still believe this , but they being left behind.
The latest science shows that only God (Consciousness) exists. Matter is not real.
Look through electron microscope and see for yourself. As for the Big Bang? Didn't think many people still believe that, but it can be debunked in 5 min. Too much order and coincidence in the world for most scientists to still believe it.

You don't get out much if you think this.
People are taught by the media that the big bang and evolution is solid scientific fact.
Science research funding is based on upholding the this view.
Talk to any atheists about creation of about the big bang and you won't get them to admit an unknown force outside of time and space caused the big bang.

As for mater is an illusion.
Mater is the force between atoms that inact to hold themselves together. Yes there is more space than atomic particles but so what.

We interact with that force so we can tap computer keys, hold a cup and drink, digest the tea, excret bodily waste.
For us matter is real and it is foolish to pretend otherwise as you are disposing Jesus's creation.
 
You don't get out much if you think this.
People are taught by the media that the big bang and evolution is solid scientific fact.
Science research funding is based on upholding the this view.
Talk to any atheists about creation of about the big bang and you won't get them to admit an unknown force outside of time and space caused the big bang.

As for mater is an illusion.
Mater is the force between atoms that inact to hold themselves together. Yes there is more space than atomic particles but so what.

We interact with that force so we can tap computer keys, hold a cup and drink, digest the tea, excret bodily waste.
For us matter is real and it is foolish to pretend otherwise as you are disposing Jesus's creation.

just putting perspective on why
jesus would repeatedly remind us not to put all our marbles on this earth
our kingdom is elsewhere. in no way disposing Jesus. Just old science
 
just putting perspective on why
jesus would repeatedly remind us not to put all our marbles on this earth
our kingdom is elsewhere. in no way disposing Jesus. Just old science

Our kingdom is elsewhere and yet at the same time it is not elsewhere. The kingdom of heaven is spread out upon the earth all around us and in us. The kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

And at the same time, the earth and all matter is an illusion but is also real enough for us to interact with it at the same time.

The deciding factor is whether we are, in the flesh, or, in the spirit. We can choose to be led by the flesh or learn to be led by the Spirit. While in the flesh all of matter and worldly things are a very real reality to us. But while in the Spirit a higher reality opens up to us and is always described as being more real than earth reality.

And if that is so, then we have to look at the possibility that as spirits living in a material world, the only true substance and possession of our spiritual reality that we have is our thoughts.
 
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