Remember

[Hitch]

http://www.ussarizona.org/

 

[Vince]

My father was wounded in the attack on Pearl Harbor, and I want to thank Hitch for remembering that day.

 

[handy]

Yes, thanks Hitch. Some things are worth remembering and worth passing on to the next generations.

My son asked me last night if he could bring 5 cans of food to school today...me, thinking that it was a food drive for Christmas said sure. But, then he said that it was going to be "Silly Hat Day" and in order to wear his silly clown hat, he needed to bring the 5 items of food.

I said, "Then no, you may not. Tomorrow is a day of mourning. It would be inappropriate to wear a silly hat."

His response: "It is? Who died?"

Me: "No, it's a national day of mourning"

Thomas: "Wait, what does 'mourning' mean?"

Me: "Somber and grieving."

Thomas: "It's not September 11."

Me: "No, but still it is a 'day that will live in infamy'."

Viola: "Oh yeah, I know. It's Pearl Harbor."

Thomas: "Who, what?"

Viola: "Pearl Harbor. The Japanese attacked it. It's why we got into World War 2."

Me: "Right. Pearl Harbor is a Naval base in Hawaii. The Japanese attacked Sunday morning while many were still sleeping. Over 2000 men died and another 1000, more even were wounded. It was an unprovoked attack and brought us into the war."

Thomas: "Wow. I didn't know. I mean, I guess I have heard about it, as a matter of fact, I know I have. I just didn't know it was tomorrow."

Me: "You should have. Your teacher's should have taught you this. It's not a day to wear silly hats."

Thomas: "No. No it isn't."

The school is having a dance next week and will still be collecting food items at the dance. I'll send food items for the food drive then, because that is important...but so is this. Today isn't a day for silly hats. His teacher really should know better.

 

[Hitch]

Dear Thomas

Dear Thomas;

Next year , just before Christmas, December 7th, have a wonderful celebration but, try to remember ; More than 1100 young men are still in the Arizona, representing the best of America in 1941.

 

[theLords]

Re: Dear Thomas

Dear Thomas;

Next year , just before Christmas, December 7th, have a wonderful celebration but, try to remember ; More than 1100 young men are still in the Arizona, representing the best of America in 1941.

The best part about it, is he may have been given the chance to explain why he wasn't wearing a silly hat on silly hat day.

 

[jasoncran]

my grandfather when he heard the news enlisted immediately at the royal rangers the kids will be taught about the uss arizona and all the words "tora, tora, tora."

and get to look at my katana.

in honor of ssg harris s cranman deceased nov 7 ,2000
and adele cranman july 17, 2011.

 

[Timf]

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47962&s=rcmp

New information is beginning to make it look as if the United States was not as innocent as we have been led to believe in movies like Tora Tora Tora (and the book "At Dawn We Slept").

I think that if we examine the world view of many of the educated elite that FDR brought in to run the government, we would find great sympathy for the various communist movements around the world and manipulation of US policies to do what could be done to help them.

Christians should be careful to consider the war dead as victims of those who serve Satan and are eager to do the will of their father rather than heroic figures whose death sanctifies the political system and ideals of those who sent them to die.

Satan uses such natural sentiment as grief to transfer our sense of loyalty from Christ to the various nations, flags, or political movements he controls and directs.

A frequent rallying cry was "They didn't die in vain", when this is exactly what did happen. It is bad enough to be killed as a result of political maneuvering, but it is worse to have the memory of your death waved about to incite and motivate others.

Christians (especially patriotic ones) need to seriously reflect on their view of war in general and the ones of their country in particular.

In the US, the revolutionary war cannot be justified Biblically. The civil war was fought to end states rights not slavery. Slavery was ending anyway because you can make much more money exploiting wage slaves. World War One was fought for the political one world view of Woodrow Wilson. As a result, he aided the French so that they were in a position to crucify Germany and create the conditions for a Hitler to arise.

Satan has many traps for Christians. He seeks to draw us into the flesh by seeking to control and manipulate things on our own. A hundred years ago he lured many Christians with the political appeal of progressivism. Many Christians left Christianity to follow the idea that we can build a better, just, and good society. Thus modern political liberalism was born.

The patriotic Christian should consider if some of his sentiment does not more rightly belong to his Lord rather than his country.

 

[Hitch]

Please start you own thread.

This thread is a memorial .

 

[Vic C.]

Please start you own thread.

This thread is a memorial .

I agree.

Tim, while you may bring up some valid points, your points may fair better in the political or apologetics & theology arena, where points and counterpoints are the norm.

Not all involved in the Pearl Harbor attack are servants of the Adversary. Many people do use memorials to deal with the loss. Even a closer look at the meaning of the word grave in the Bible, will often point to it as being a "memorial".

I say let this thread stand as a memorial for those who did lose a life or loved one on Dec.7th, 1941.

Thanks

 

[Nick]

I say let this thread stand as a memorial for those who did lose a life or loved one on Dec.7th, 1941.

I agree.

As a non-American, I remember the day that changed the world forever.

 

[jasoncran]

insulting, i wouldnt have been born had it not been for americas support of the brits and getting into the war.